VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[Laport Deminis]

The internal monologue or whatever you want to call it is meant for the audience, it shouldn't influence the other characters in any way. Removing Jill's soliloquies would be pointless for two reasons: 1 she already does a very good job of making her intentions known, she's not like her sister who could use many more internal monologues apart from the darkly comical little

You mean Jill's friend not sister. Bella is only her friend. Jill's sister is dead. And it wasn't meant to be comical, it was meant to be an insight on Bella.

About the internal monologue, i disagree, i find it a nice feature. In general i like them. As a note, they dont need to be necesary, most of the time they are not. But that doesnt mean they should be removed at all. In a book you dont need a description of the place where the action happens, yet they make the book better.

In particular I specially like Jill's inner thoughts. For two reasons. First, this one was meant to be comical. It's a clasic joke, where we seen a character struggling with himself by doing the oposite of what he/she wants. Not the best joke of the game, butnot bad neither.
Second, since it's a porn game, and Jill is a platonic relationship, thats her charm. We dont need Sage inner thoughts couse we have her pussy (the "real" thing). With Jill (for thoose who like her) we get a different thing. Platonic relationships work with fantasy. They are two people fantasising with each other. It happens only in the mind.

After all Jill's inner thought's included something like this:




Now, i am not fan of platonic porn. But there are a lot of Jill's fans. I bet at some degree they like that. And if i was a Jill fan that would probably my favorite scene. And i dont meant couse that's the first time we actually see her pussy.

 

[Banque_route]

Is it possible to go along the way with Maya and tell Josy to fuck off? Or make Maya jealous?
I love Maya but hate Josy and hate Maya coz her lies

 

[Laport Deminis]

Is it possible to go along the way with Maya and tell Josy to fuck off? Or make Maya jealous?
I love Maya but hate Josy and hate Maya coz her lies

 

[Kellermann]

You mean Jill's friend not sister. Bella is only her friend. Jill's sister is dead. And it wasn't meant to be comical, it was meant to be an insight on Bella.

About the internal monologue, i disagree, i find it a nice feature. In general i like them. As a note, they dont need to be necesary, most of the time they are not. But that doesnt mean they should be removed at all. In a book you dont need a description of the place where the action happens, yet they make the book better.

In particular I specially like Jill's inner thoughts. For two reasons. First, this one was meant to be comical. It's a clasic joke, where we seen a character struggling with himself by doing the oposite of what he/she wants. Not the best joke of the game, butnot bad neither.
Second, since it's a porn game, and Jill is a platonic relationship, thats her charm. We dont need Sage inner thoughts couse we have her pussy (the "real" thing). With Jill (for thoose who like her) we get a different thing. Platonic relationships work with fantasy. They are two people fantasising with each other. It happens only in the mind.

After all Jill's inner thought's included something like this:

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Now, i am not fan of platonic porn. But there are a lot of Jill's fans. I bet at some degree they like that. And if i was a Jill fan that would probably my favorite scene. And i dont meant couse that's the first time we actually see her pussy.

Do you think DPC got his wife to help write those Jill scenes? Or better yet...act them out?

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That's the most awkward-looking folded arms pose I've seen. Is Maya cradling an invisible baby? Keep practising sweetheart, the real thing is coming soon.
#NotPullingOut

 

[GingerSweetGirl]

Do you think DPC got his wife to help write those Jill scenes? Or better yet...act them out?



That's the most awkward-looking folded arms pose I've seen. Is Maya cradling an invisible baby? Keep practising sweetheart, the real thing is coming soon.
#NotPullingOut

You know I've never noticed it before, but Jill's thighs look kinda weird. I don't want to be all bitchy about it, but they look like they have implants lol. Am I crazy?

 

[Kellermann]

You know I've never noticed it before, but Jill's thighs look kinda weird. I don't want to be all bitchy about it, but they look like they have implants lol. Am I crazy?

You just put your trust in Jill's thicc thighs...they save lives.
Not a single leg day missed!

 

[Deleted member 1784858]

Not really sure what you mean by Jill's sister needing more internal monologues as we've only seen her in a Jill flashback. We have no idea what her story is apart from being gone.
I jerk off to porn for maintenence. Kinda like an oil change in my car. Gotta get all the gunk out so the motor runs better. Same thing for me.
As far as women liking drama for the same reasons, I don't see very many facts supporting that statement. I know a lot of women who would much rather watch porn than take part in some drama queen shit.

I try not to make deterministic statements but I shouldn't need to cover every permutation, as if I could. I don't want to elaborate on what I said because I don't like repeating myself. If you didn't get it don't worry about it. I will say that I believe the differences between men and woman are social constructs. Think about this: Opinions are not facts but facts are just opinions given a higher authority - this is true. Nothing in of itself is something, the fact that words exist should be proof enough that everything is inherently meaningless. The fact that you can justify anything with words even more so. Logic contradicts itself too often for me to put any real stock in it, I view it as more of a tool for persuasion than anything else and I care little for bullshitting another person for control when we both now i'm just going to crush them and take it. I never liked Simon Says either...


Bro what?
Some women like big dicks because it fills them up and hits spots little dicks can't. Do you really think every guy had a little dick before porn was invented? Porn was also invented right after the first moving picture was created. People have always filmed themselves having sex. Do a google search for vintage porn...you'll find some shit from the early 1900's.
After you talked about the big dick thing, you went off the rails into some self superior rant and you lost me. So I can't comment on anything else you said.

You can believe whatever you want, it's irrelevant to me. Your limits are your limits, you cannot surpass but if you are smart you can work past them. I don't care for a system that doesn't care for me as I can take care of myself. Also I meant Isabella, I assumed because I pathologically ignore everything Jill says and does, I genuinely hate her with every fiber of my being. and lastly you projecting your insecurity onto me doesn't make me arrogant if anything it makes you inferior by way of you being weak willed. Superiority is also a stupid concept to me, in my eyes it serves no purpose.

Let this be the end of it because I won't respond.

Edit: whoopes somehow put some of mine in your quote, hope that doesn't confuse you.

 

[EfontMan]

Jill's thighs look kinda weird

It's her waist. Look how ridiculously tiny it is. It causes a bunch of other proportion problems, like her thighs suddenly having nowhere to go.

 

[JamieSadistic]

You can believe whatever you want, it's irrelevant to me. Your limits are your limits, you cannot surpass but if you are smart you can work past them. I don't care for a system that doesn't care for me as I can take care of myself. Also I meant Isabella, I assumed because I pathologically ignore everything Jill says and does, I genuinely hate her with every fiber of my being. and lastly you projecting your insecurity onto me doesn't make me arrogant if anything it makes you inferior by way of you being weak willed. Superiority is also a stupid concept to me, in my eyes it serves no purpose.

Let this be the end of it because I won't respond.

Edit: whoopes somehow put some of mine in your quote, hope that doesn't confuse you.

To be completely honest with you, everything you've said confuses me. I literally have no idea what you're talking about. Projecting my insecurity onto you? What? Re-read what I said and then respond. I think you didn't read what I said correctly or you're just so full of yourself you imagined a few things and then pretended that I said them. Anyway, have a good night bud.

 

[rockreign]

EP 8 Tybalt preview

 

[MykeRosy]

can we know what the timeline of DPC?

 

[JamieSadistic]

can we know what the timeline of DPC?

The general consensus here is that the new update will be released around Halloween. Of course, it's all speculation because DPC hasn't released any real info regarding the release date yet. We can only hope it's soon.

 

[N7]

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This will be my final status update for episode 8. It took a while to get here, but here we are.

Currently, there are 11 animations left in the animation queue. I expect them to finish rendering during the following week.

I've been playtesting and polishing the game all week.

Yet, I've only played the entire episode meticulously two times, in two different ways. I have several more playthroughs to complete, and I have yet to see everything the episode has to offer.

While playing, I wrote a checklist with 300+ things to fix and polish; this is common for every episode. I've been working on fixing everything on that checklist. I've added and fixed dialogue, renders, scenes, code, phone content, animations, and more during this week.

Next week I will continue to polish the episode and perform my personal playtests. I will also ensure that the save transfer between Season 2 and the upcoming Season 3 works as intended.

My beta testers and proofreader have gotten a heads up, and I will send them the episode as soon as I finish polishing it.

Before my inbox gets full of beta testing DMs: Thanks to everyone who offers help, but I do not need more help with beta testing.

After my team has started work and made progress, I can give an ETA for the Patreon release.

We are down to the nitty-gritty details of development, and that's also where the devil is.

I will post information regarding beta testing and release dates as soon as I know something more.

Have a nice weekend

Dr PinkCake

 

[ziotoni]

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This will be my final status update for episode 8. It took a while to get here, but here we are.

Currently, there are 11 animations left in the animation queue. I expect them to finish rendering during the following week.

I've been playtesting and polishing the game all week.

Yet, I've only played the entire episode meticulously two times, in two different ways. I have several more playthroughs to complete, and I have yet to see everything the episode has to offer.

While playing, I wrote a checklist with 300+ things to fix and polish; this is common for every episode. I've been working on fixing everything on that checklist. I've added and fixed dialogue, renders, scenes, code, phone content, animations, and more during this week.

Next week I will continue to polish the episode and perform my personal playtests. I will also ensure that the save transfer between Season 2 and the upcoming Season 3 works as intended.

My beta testers and proofreader have gotten a heads up, and I will send them the episode as soon as I finish polishing it.

Before my inbox gets full of beta testing DMs: Thanks to everyone who offers help, but I do not need more help with beta testing.

After my team has started work and made progress, I can give an ETA for the Patreon release.

We are down to the nitty-gritty details of development, and that's also where the devil is.

I will post information regarding beta testing and release dates as soon as I know something more.

Have a nice weekend

Dr PinkCake

Yay

 

[nyrek]

so most likely november 12th or 19th

 

[always86]

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This will be my final status update for episode 8. It took a while to get here, but here we are.

Currently, there are 11 animations left in the animation queue. I expect them to finish rendering during the following week.

I've been playtesting and polishing the game all week.

Yet, I've only played the entire episode meticulously two times, in two different ways. I have several more playthroughs to complete, and I have yet to see everything the episode has to offer.

While playing, I wrote a checklist with 300+ things to fix and polish; this is common for every episode. I've been working on fixing everything on that checklist. I've added and fixed dialogue, renders, scenes, code, phone content, animations, and more during this week.

Next week I will continue to polish the episode and perform my personal playtests. I will also ensure that the save transfer between Season 2 and the upcoming Season 3 works as intended.

My beta testers and proofreader have gotten a heads up, and I will send them the episode as soon as I finish polishing it.

Before my inbox gets full of beta testing DMs: Thanks to everyone who offers help, but I do not need more help with beta testing.

After my team has started work and made progress, I can give an ETA for the Patreon release.

We are down to the nitty-gritty details of development, and that's also where the devil is.

I will post information regarding beta testing and release dates as soon as I know something more.

Have a nice weekend

Dr PinkCake

11 animations left is about what I’d expect. Means 17 were done last week. Also means he should be content complete by middle of next week, though sounds like he won’t start Beta testing for a little while. I think the 5th has slipped away and 12th or 19th now is the most likely.

 

[Bateman22]

3 - 4 weeks from now. Be strong brothers.

 

[lipe2410]

November will be a good month

 

[Icekatana]

I think the initial post argued about the opposite thing you're saying in your reply. It highlighted the importance and necessity of occasional depiction of characters' thoughts in parentheses so the players get the underlying motivation/meaning that was thought of by a particular character.
However, coming back to your point, I agree wholeheartedly that I prefer when DPC just leaves us with a concrete facial expression of disinterest/sadness/happiness and whatever other reaction that could be visually depicted. But, DPC, on most occasions, leaves the characters' thoughts to the players' own interpretation, mostly using the internal thought depiction for the MC. Still, when he occasionally does so also for other characters, I believe those are in 90% of times relevant and not dense enough to classify as 'overcharacterization' of something that could be depicted just by the visuals. I know some VNs suffer from that or use that trick in order to avoid creating some visual expression, but I don't think that BADIK is one of them as we have discussed before that DPC can successfully get the message across to the players by masterfully creating e.g. facial expressions of the characters

No, I was actually saying what GeneralCuiJM said more or less. He succinctly paraphrased my thoughts. In my example, I would have preferred that the player and MC felt slightly jilted by Jill instead of getting let off the hook through Jill's internal thoughts. Then how much better would it be when Jill has that morning jog to reassure the MC? I prefer show, don't tell as well. Although, I will certainly agree that it is useful and sometimes even necessary for expediency's sake. I don't think DPC uses it so much that it hinders the game either.

 

[ename144]

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This will be my final status update for episode 8. It took a while to get here, but here we are.

Currently, there are 11 animations left in the animation queue. I expect them to finish rendering during the following week.

I've been playtesting and polishing the game all week.

Yet, I've only played the entire episode meticulously two times, in two different ways. I have several more playthroughs to complete, and I have yet to see everything the episode has to offer.

While playing, I wrote a checklist with 300+ things to fix and polish; this is common for every episode. I've been working on fixing everything on that checklist. I've added and fixed dialogue, renders, scenes, code, phone content, animations, and more during this week.

Next week I will continue to polish the episode and perform my personal playtests. I will also ensure that the save transfer between Season 2 and the upcoming Season 3 works as intended.

My beta testers and proofreader have gotten a heads up, and I will send them the episode as soon as I finish polishing it.

Before my inbox gets full of beta testing DMs: Thanks to everyone who offers help, but I do not need more help with beta testing.

After my team has started work and made progress, I can give an ETA for the Patreon release.

We are down to the nitty-gritty details of development, and that's also where the devil is.

I will post information regarding beta testing and release dates as soon as I know something more.

Have a nice weekend

Dr PinkCake

Minimal numbers, but the news is still pretty good! DPC completed a minimum of 11 animations and 0 static renders this week; it sounds like any additional animations or renders from the polishing process would have been negligible. If so, DPC's overall rate is approximately 13.4 animations and 156 statics per week. No big change in the charts, but might as well post them anyway:

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As he said, DPC should finish the final animations by next week, at which point beta testing should begin. That means we're still just barely in the running for a November 5 release, but that's a very optimistic scenario. My guess is Episode 8 release will either be November 12 or November 19, depending on how long beta testing takes. It's probably better to assume he'll take his time with testing given how important the new save system is, but maybe we'll get lucky.

Finish line is definitely in sight now. Sadly, we may not know exactly where it is until the last minute if DPC doesn't say when testing actually begins. Better start clearing out the calendar for mid-November so we can be ready!