RedBud412

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Sorrry, can't help you there. Maybe try to download the full version instead of compressed?
I originally downloaded the compress version due to space issues. I did delete the compressed and downloaded other version. Unfortunately same results. Only gets to loading screen then crashes. I tried LOL. Thank you for your reply though. I guess I'll wait for it to come out on Steam.
 
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I genuinely think that people are missing out on a great character and a large part of the story by taking Quinn at face value and not delving deeper into her motivations.
I'll take the exact opposite position and say that the people who are "delving deeper into her motivations" are missing out on a large part of the story because they are too busy desperately searching for excuses for Quinn's horrible behaviour. The most common of which is framing her as a sympathetic victim of circumstance because she came from a broken home, which works because the knee-jerk reaction to hearing that someone had a hard childhood is to view them with pity and sympathy.

I view Quinn as a sympathetic figure due to her upbringing, and I contextualize her actions on that basis. You could just as easily view Quinn as a malevolent figure and be just as correct. But I want people to look at both viewpoints on her and decide which they agree with more, not have a knee-jerk reaction to some of things she does and form a shallow view.
Yeah that's the stuff I'm talking about right there.

I don't think Quinn would ever truly betray or hurt Riona, in fact I somehow suspect a lot of things she's doing to keep afloat is connected to protecting Riona from the fallout with the drugs and prostitution. Not to cast Quinn in too much of a benevolent light - obviously Quinn is looking out for number 1, and she does treat Riona like shit, but it's to keep both of them safe, not just herself.
Dude... we've seen her slap Riona across the face, we've seen her tell Riona that she's too stupid to pass college on her own in order to keep whoring her out, and we've seen her ridicule Riona's fears of being stalked when Riona came to her for help. How can you possibly think that Quinn's actions are to protect Riona?

Quinn betrays people who are dumb enough to trust her. That's an ongoing theme in the game, and a core aspect of her character. Quinn betrayed Tommy in order to try to sell drugs to the preps. She betrayed Sage in order to whore out the HOTs and use them as an opportunity to sell drugs. Quinn will tell you that Camilla was the one in the glory hole (if you took that route), even though Camilla only agreed to work for Quinn if she was anonymous. One of the very first things Quinn does in the game is blackmail the MC into stripping naked under threat of screaming for help and calling him a pervert, and when he complies, she not only breaks her word but also pushes him out into the streets naked. She's been betraying people the entire game. Often just for the fun of it, which is something she has flat out told us in the first episode.

Hurting the people she likes in order to control or punish them is another well established aspect of Quinn's character. Quinn tasered the MC in the throat until he passed out, and she will knee him in the balls if he refuses her sexual advances. So her slapping Riona is par for the course. But somehow you are trying to spin things so Quinn striking Riona is an example of Quinn protecting Riona? That's ridiculous. Riona was the one trying to protect Quinn, by telling her not to bring in Maya and Mona. And she was right. Quinn will now be under scrutiny from Sage because of what happened with Maya and Mona, which is going to make things real hard to pay off their drug debt. Which is an even larger problem now that Quinn managed to lose her last pickup.

We don't need to know every single detail of Quinn's life to know what kind of a person she is, because she's already demonstrated that quite well. Quinn is trash. She is the trashiest character since Marjory from Fraggle Rock. Actually... that's unfair to Marjory, as although she was a literal trash heap, she was a kind soul who helped those in need. Quinn is the exact opposite of that, which actually makes her trashier than a talking trash heap. Tommy was worried about Josy joining the HOTs, and Quinn used that as an opportunity to tease him instead of reassuring him by offering to look out for Josy. Maya went to Quinn for help with tuition, and Quinn lied to her and tormented her for her own amusement. And we've already talked about how Quinn takes advantage of Riona's vulnerabilities.

There is no hidden backstory that could possibly justify Quinn's treatment of others in this game. Her personality is very clearly established already. What exactly are you waiting to see? Are you expecting to learn that some supervillain is magically forcing Quinn to treat every character in the game like shit?

Delving deeper into a character requires some sort of evidence from the game that will support you arguments. You can't just say that your interpretations are equally valid because the game isn't over yet so the author could still pull any number of plot twists out of his ass. Imagine that there were two people who see an animal that looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck. One guy says that it's clearly a duck, and the other guy says that we can't be sure because we haven't seen if it swims like a duck yet so there's still a chance that it could be a giraffe. Would you say that those are equally valid interpretations? I wouldn't.
 

felicemastronzo

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Perhaps the dark cloud will abate when ep. 8 drops, but I'm much less hopeful and excited at this point than I was on the eve of ep. 7 when I had that "next in line for a roller coaster ride" feeling. When I look at regressed, hand-holding dates with Jill, CHICK Sage, and pussy-licking Madame (along with some wanker who enjoys abusing us with photos of her) I turn sour. I've even been tortured by whispers of those who say there is no Halloween party in ep. 8, but rather it will come in ep. 9. So yes, I'm depressed about what happened with Sage in ep. 7 (after waiting all of ep. 6 for her to recover) and disappointed with the episode overall (my least favourite to date...but still better than most other AVN episodes).

I'm also not looking forward to the season end cliffhanger knowing I'll have another 7+ months for resolution. I do hope that DPC sorts out at least some of the long-standing subplots and mysteries that have been going on since season 1. If those are still left unresolved then that disappointment coupled with no Halloween party would be devastating to the psyche.

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the only concern i can take away from you is the one about the final cliffhanger. it won't be anything to hold your breath over, just like the end of the first season, probably one or more relationships will be summed up and there will be the final judgement (for me the biggest candidate is Jill).

at which point those unhappy with the outcome will have to retrieve some saves, while the others can hope, futilely, to have finished dealing with one or more characters
 

tipsytopsy

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Dude... we've seen her slap Riona across the face, we've seen her tell Riona that she's too stupid to pass college on her own in order to keep whoring her out, and we've seen her ridicule Riona's fears of being stalked when Riona came to her for help. How can you possibly think that Quinn's actions are to protect Riona?
I don't really buy that Quinn was trying to protect Riona, just keep her in line.

That said, I will say that there's a difference between protecting Riona in general, and protecting Riona from the potential consequences of reneging on the Burke-deal. Keeping Riona in line does protect her from that. Mona was only a participant for a week or so and that was enough for Mona to leave the school over what might happen. Riona's been at this for a year.

I do think Quinn probably cares for Riona. Its just Quinn also needs to have her schemes running, and can't allow Riona to go off the rails. Especially, since Riona is the OG partner. It was just Quinn and Riona at the start. You can't have someone like that free. You need to keep them under heel until you're done. So its a harsh imbalance between friend/underling thats clearly going the wrong way recently.
 
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walker188

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Why is this game this good? I never played it
This isn't a porn game. Its a video game that happens to have the depth to (semi) realistically engage the sexual nature of college. In other words, I'd probably play it even if it was nosex. And the sex scenes don't rely on cheap fetishes to make it hot. IE, no incest or rape or pedo shit, not even impregnation which is my bag. Instead, the sexiness comes from connection, effort, risk and quality, similar to real life sex and intimacy.
 
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goldenrule91

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I'll take the exact opposite position and say that the people who are "delving deeper into her motivations" are missing out on a large part of the story because they are too busy desperately searching for excuses for Quinn's horrible behaviour. The most common of which is framing her as a sympathetic victim of circumstance because she came from a broken home, which works because the knee-jerk reaction to hearing that someone had a hard childhood is to view them with pity and sympathy.

Yeah that's the stuff I'm talking about right there.

Dude... we've seen her slap Riona across the face, we've seen her tell Riona that she's too stupid to pass college on her own in order to keep whoring her out, and we've seen her ridicule Riona's fears of being stalked when Riona came to her for help. How can you possibly think that Quinn's actions are to protect Riona?

Quinn betrays people who are dumb enough to trust her. That's an ongoing theme in the game, and a core aspect of her character. Quinn betrayed Tommy in order to try to sell drugs to the preps. She betrayed Sage in order to whore out the HOTs and use them as an opportunity to sell drugs. Quinn will tell you that Camilla was the one in the glory hole (if you took that route), even though Camilla only agreed to work for Quinn if she was anonymous. One of the very first things Quinn does in the game is blackmail the MC into stripping naked under threat of screaming for help and calling him a pervert, and when he complies, she not only breaks her word but also pushes him out into the streets naked. She's been betraying people the entire game. Often just for the fun of it, which is something she has flat out told us in the first episode.

Hurting the people she likes in order to control or punish them is another well established aspect of Quinn's character. Quinn tasered the MC in the throat until he passed out, and she will knee him in the balls if he refuses her sexual advances. So her slapping Riona is par for the course. But somehow you are trying to spin things so Quinn striking Riona is an example of Quinn protecting Riona? That's ridiculous. Riona was the one trying to protect Quinn, by telling her not to bring in Maya and Mona. And she was right. Quinn will now be under scrutiny from Sage because of what happened with Maya and Mona, which is going to make things real hard to pay off their drug debt. Which is an even larger problem now that Quinn managed to lose her last pickup.

We don't need to know every single detail of Quinn's life to know what kind of a person she is, because she's already demonstrated that quite well. Quinn is trash. She is the trashiest character since Marjory from Fraggle Rock. Actually... that's unfair to Marjory, as although she was a literal trash heap, she was a kind soul who helped those in need. Quinn is the exact opposite of that, which actually makes her trashier than a talking trash heap. Tommy was worried about Josy joining the HOTs, and Quinn used that as an opportunity to tease him instead of reassuring him by offering to look out for Josy. Maya went to Quinn for help with tuition, and Quinn lied to her and tormented her for her own amusement. And we've already talked about how Quinn takes advantage of Riona's vulnerabilities.

There is no hidden backstory that could possibly justify Quinn's treatment of others in this game. Her personality is very clearly established already. What exactly are you waiting to see? Are you expecting to learn that some supervillain is magically forcing Quinn to treat every character in the game like shit?

Delving deeper into a character requires some sort of evidence from the game that will support you arguments. You can't just say that your interpretations are equally valid because the game isn't over yet so the author could still pull any number of plot twists out of his ass. Imagine that there were two people who see an animal that looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck. One guy says that it's clearly a duck, and the other guy says that we can't be sure because we haven't seen if it swims like a duck yet so there's still a chance that it could be a giraffe. Would you say that those are equally valid interpretations? I wouldn't.
I appreciate an essay post more than anyone but I think you read my post you're replying to without reading the one I made before it because I answer most of these questions with the benefit of it :Kappa:I'll link it here. I'll very shortly answer a couple of the big mistakes you make about my own views though because these are common to most of the people who quote-unquote "defend" Quinn and her actions.

1. No one is trying to justify Quinn's behavior, and no one could, she's a huge mega-bitch who makes huge mega-mistakes :KEK:What most of us are trying to do, and I'll speak and repeat for myself, is offer an alternative subjective view to Quinn's actions in light of what we know about her background and motivations. You can take that or leave that as an analysis but you seem to be under a lot of false assumptions that people who like Quinn ignore everything about her and take some orthodox and counter-factual view of her that's just not true.

2. We undoubtedly have enough evidence to support a legitimate alternate take on Quinn from how she's commonly portrayed as a villain, which would be the rain scene, the hangout scene and the ending scene of episode 7 where if you're on her path she looks up at the drugs as though she's reconsidering what she's doing because of the MC's actions. To say that her personality is very clearly established already, when we can literally see her personality shifting in the game depending on the choices you as a player take with her, is ridiculous. The Quinn that you will see as the game progresses when not on her path, will be and already is wildly different from the Quinn I will see as someone who is on her path.

If you read my former post I linked and want an actual back and forth on this I'd be happy to keep going and answer everything you posted, it'll probably annoy everyone with the length of our posts but that hasn't stopped me before :KEK:
 

AchedCroissant

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Dude... we've seen her slap Riona across the face, we've seen her tell Riona that she's too stupid to pass college on her own in order to keep whoring her out, and we've seen her ridicule Riona's fears of being stalked when Riona came to her for help.
Because of the way my parents raised me I have a need to help Riona I just hope DPC lets us help her
 
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