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It's weird but at this point any last name is validI would like to think its Sunshine
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How do you do to give so many reactions? I think I don't give two reactions in one dayeh?
Man I thought I was the only one in this thread that was talking wonky
Fuck, ran out of reactions AGAIN for the 3rd day in a row
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That's one of the better parts of the Jill route for me. At the end you can strait up say that you are her boyfriend. Unless I read it wrong you kinda can with Sage but it doesn't have the same oomph to me. I am, and don't you forget it.
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you are joking but when MC looks under the door, i put the screen brightness to the max and we can cleary see 2 boots/shoes behind it and they are facing the door
it creeped me out
Sage was having a few bad days but I'm struggling to remember what girls outside the usual suspects the MC fucked and all them at one time got creampied, on my game the MC didn't fuck any of the girls that wanted money for sex, mainly cause I never had any. Didn't get to have sex with Jade and I got no idea who Madame is.
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There's too much to cover everything. To quickly sum up, you can see my original take here. shazba had a somewhat more positive take on a lot of those elements here and here.
Based on the rate of rate of time passing in the latest episodes (and the teaser of the mansion in Halloween regalia), I suspect the Halloween party is going to be the first test of the MC's loyalty. That's a big part of why I've gone from eagerly anticipating it to wishing we'd skip it this year.
Just to be clear, I'm not saying the MC shouldn't face temptation, just that I don't see the Halloween party as offering a particularly effective temptation. I like all the LIs. If my MC just committed to one (or two) of them, self-destructive, drunken antics with someone I didn't choose is an easy pass. There's nothing worse than having to endure the MC agonizing over what should be an easy decision.
Sure, people who picked others deserve their fun. But by forcing us to commit to the choice, DPC upped the stakes. The Halloween party can't just be about sexy games anymore, which makes it feel like one of those WW2-era battleships that was obsolete the instant it hit the water. Maybe DPC will surprise me, but for now it feels like such a waste.
Something more might come of it eventually, but to date there's almost no difference. If you don't defend Chad, during the Episode 7 party he tells Alex the MC isn't worth it rather than saying the MC is cool.
That presumes that the man to whom Rusty sells his car owns (and/or founded) the dealership. Also, it's much more likely DPC is just reusing a model and the two characters are no more related than the MC and Tommy.
I don't think it's one or the other. For all the faults Episode 4 had resolving it, I think the twist of Josy showing up as Maya's surprise girlfriend was good for the game. Likewise I think the destruction of the mansion in Episode 5 was a good moment that hit hard and paved the way for the MC's rise to glory; hosting the Halloween party wouldn't feel nearly as satisfying if the audience didn't share the sense of how tough the path back has been.
Of course, the flipside to this is that we need lulls in the drama to appreciate what's been lost or gained. If everything is balls-to-the-wall drama all the time, it loses its impact. Nothing is at stake if any winnings will immediately be imperiled before we can spend them. No sense worrying about any particular crisis, it's business as usual.
DPC excels in the slice of life material and struggles with high-stakes threats, but his instincts to have both is correct. He just needs to learn that less is sometimes more. If he keeps the scale personal most of the time and saves his powder for a few pivotal moments, he can get an even bigger narrative bang without having to strongarm the story into a series of convoluted crises.
Could be. We'll never know exactly what DPC had planned originally. My overall impression, though, is that the game we have now is pretty compatible with the game we saw in Episode 1. The only thing that feels like it was adapted after the fact is the '4 episode season' aspect. Episode 5 felt like it SHOULD have been the end of the first act but had to be booted to season 2 for logistical reasons. Likewise, it wouldn't surprise me if DPC leaned more heavily into things like the Tybalt blackmail plot to stretch the crossroad out from Episode 7 to Episode 8 simply to match the season end.
Other than that, though, my guess is that DPC always intended to tell the 'traditional' romcom story and then bring Zoey back as a way to test the MC's choice. The 'new' roadblocks were part of the story from day 1.
To the extent that the narrative feels repetitive, I think that's because DPC doesn't quite appreciate that Zoey's backstory on its own doesn't make her sufficiently different from the other LIs. Ideally, the rise and fall of the MC/Zoey relationship would have been the first act in its own right. Only after that would the MC move on to college, meet the new LIs and eventually settle on one. Then, when Zoey returns unexpectedly, we can share the MC's confused feelings; if we hadn't been forced to abandon Zoey, would we really have picked the new LI at all? What do we do now that we have?
Presumably, that's what DPC is going to try to do with the Interlude: make us retroactively buy into what the MC and Zoey had and thus question the decision we just made. Unfortunately, the timing is all wrong. By making such a big deal out the choice of new LI, we're instantly going to be far more defensive of that choice than the MC is. Right away our perception of Zoey differs sharply from how the MC's.
On top of that, by making the "original" romance retroactive, we're going to be instinctively reluctant to commit to it fully - unless we didn't have much investment in the new LIs to begin with. Worse, if we have invested in the new LI, we want to see the MC spend time with his LI!! That last thing we want is to watch the MC hook up with a mortal threat to that LI! Yet we will be forced to endure the latter before we can get back to the former. The idea that we would ever side with the force-fed Zoey romance over the new LI after that is... let's call it overly optimistic.
In the end, Zoey's "threat" to, say, M&J, is no different than Bella's: we're told the MC has powerful chemistry with her, but we may or may not feel it ourselves. If Bella didn't edge out M&J in our eyes, Zoey won't either. (Meanwhile, if we did choose Bella's case, we know the player already bought into the chemistry with her. So Zoey is at best a pale copy with ~7 episodes less development to catch our interest.) Artificially elevating Zoey to be a threat to each and every other LI yields the same problem that's bedeviled many a franchise sequel over the years: it's just doing the same thing all over again with more flash and far less substance.
Thus the repetition. That's my take, anyway.
I'm hoping DPC doesn't try and legitimately have Zoey compete with the other LI (or even worse have the MC fall for her against our wishes just to create drama and repeat himself). What I am ok with is her be a lightning rod for showing established insecurities. I agree with you entirely that DPC is going to struggle immensely setting her up as a viable alternative to the established LI's but he could segue all the established jealously and unspoken feelings from each LI onto her.
MC keeps making a big deal about having dated multiple girls. Scenes like the recital aftermath has the MC talking about how he's involved with, even "dated", all these girls even if you did your best to avoid them. Im ok with Zoey basically holding up a mirror to each LI and showing them something wrong with their relationship with MC.
Zoey as a full blown LI? I’ve got reservations. Zoey as a tool to simply drive the current LI’s character development? A foil to the established LI? Yeah I am on board with that.
side note, I looked up where a character “foil” comes from… it’s from how jewellers used to put foil under a jewel to make it shine more and look better. That’s what I want. Her to come in an make the LI’s shine by contrast.
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Yeah I only knew of the Madame from the gallery unlocker. Never met her but she's the madame of the Pink Rose
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I think why Zoey comes back because she wants to open up a drug business, with MC as a business partner. Think about it both Quinn and Vinny are drug dealers. So, the next logical step is for the MC becoming a drug dealer with aid from Zoey.
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Maya Victoria
Derek Bailey
Patrick Bailey
Tybalt Archibald Stewart Burke
Jade Burke
Stephen Burke
Sage Burke (presumably)
Jill Royce
Lana Royce
Amelia Royce
Isabella Roberts
James Roberts (assuming Bella took his name in marriage)
Cathy Jones
Rusty Burgmeister
Hagar Schmidt (teacher)
Philip Hoff (teacher)
Mona Davis
Karen Rebecca Johnson
Benjamin Ingsfeldt (chess player) *Thanks, ename144
Bianca Thomson *Thanks, ename144
Lydia Henderson (granny grenade)
Will Burr (ANΩ alumni)
Nora Bailey (please direct any doubts to AchedCroissant
)NOTE: The following are not being considered as accurate surnames (as ename144 suspected), because the basketball uniforms from which they were derived are actually just Daz3d assets:
- Chad Connor
- John Hanson
- Anthony Drake
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Did I leave anyone out?
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I'm active in about 16-28 threads every day, so I'm always doing something somewhere; the worse the caffeine high or manic attack, the more reactions come outHow do you do to give so many reactions? I think I don't give two reactions in one day
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it's time for a crazy theory!!!Bella & Jade
However, we do not know what happened to Bella's husband
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Well Jade's married, Bella's married, I don't know about any of the strippers at the Pink Rose, so yeah, there's 2 at least you can mess with
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Wow did 4chan make any other Bella fanarts cuz she looks sick ( in a good way), but whole concept of fan art is sick ( in a bad way ) Haha but fan art is great no matter what
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Can someone share the EP8 Official Walkthrough please? We need a HERO!!
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I've been chomping at the bit for hours about this. C'mon guys, someone has to be a DPC 15 buck tier sub here