VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[Lostanddamned]

from a game point of view it is very unlikely that MC's actions can decide Maya's fate in the middle of the game. but more importantly carrying on from here to the end of the game the double possibility of Maya being helped or not would be incredibly wasteful for DPC

so the most probable outcome is that it ends with nothing happening, rarely at the beginning of the chapter something important happens.

while from a narrative point of view Jade is a gender studies teacher who is supposed to harm a girl who precisely because of her sexuality has been mistreated and blackmailed by her father, i.e. she's supposed to do the worst possible from an ideological point of view. and all this simply because a student decided that it wasn't appropriate to continue having sex with a married teacher.

For God's sake, it's not impossible, but it would make Jade the worst villain of BADIK so far.


the fault of this is entirely DPC's, who kept on talking about this loan making it less and less credible. if the author keeps on talking about it adding details it's normal that even here they talk about it, almost in every chapter there was an addition on the matter.

if DPC had simply once told us that Maya's father controlled the money of her college enrollment nobody would have asked too many questions, instead DPC had to create the hyper drama of Maya being condemned to bankruptcy for life if she didn't obey her father...




then statistically the most likely outcome of leaving MC and Josy waiting outside is that they end up having sex in the bathroom...

This is DPC we are talking about. He won't hesitate to write a questionable story just for the sake of creating drama. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if Jade tries to do screw up things if you rejected her. That is so in DPC's style that he wouldn't miss up that opportunity.

I mean he wrote the whole loan thing in such a way that everyone involved in it is either retarded or have no idea how banks work. That the whole thing is taking like 9 episodes to get resolved is another thing. It went on for way too long and people are already tired of either seeing tuition or loan mentioned in the game.

Same with the Jill's blackmail storyline. Another senseless, retarded thing written just for the sake of drama and the postponing of content.

He may not realize it, but letting storylines play out for too long or recycling the same storylines over and over again are not really the signs of a good writer.

 

[felicemastronzo]

If this game takes 8 years to make and we get to play a piece of it each year, that's fine (better than having to wait 8 years before we even get to play 1 minute of it).

Too many people act like 8 years (or 4 or 10 or whatever) is such a long time. Like they'll be dead before then (Mark Takagi, I'm sure you'll live to see the end ). It's no time at all. Game of Thrones aired for 9 years, and that's been over for almost 3 years already.

This game will be over in no time, and you'll all be complaining about how long his next game is taking.

but also 16 or 32 years, like one render a week
the longer the better....

as a gamer there is not a single reason to wish that you have to wait longer (as if six months per chapter were not enough...), but maybe it's me who's strange...

 

[felicemastronzo]

This is DPC we are talking about. He won't hesitate to write a questionable story just for the sake of creating drama. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if Jade tries to do screw up things if you rejected her. That is so in DPC's style that he wouldn't miss up that opportunity.

I mean he wrote the whole loan thing in such a way that everyone involved in it is either retarded. That the whole thing is taking like 9 episodes to get resolved is another thing. It went on for way too long and people are already tired of either seeing tuition or loan mentioned in the game.

Same with the Jill's blackmail storyline. Another senseless, retarded thing written just for the sake of drama and the postponing of content.

He may not realize it, but letting storylines play out for too long or recycling the same storylines over and over again are not really the signs of a good writer.

since he's DPC it's impossible for him to write two stories: one in which Jade opposes and one in which she doesn't. the question is not how much sense it makes (there should be limits anyway...) but that there can't be two fates for Maya in the middle of the story

more impossible than seeing Magnar having sex with a LI of some game ever existed.

 

[Lostanddamned]

since he's DPC it's impossible for him to write two stories: one in which Jade opposes and one in which she doesn't. the question is not how much sense it makes (there should be limits anyway...) but that there can't be two fates for Maya in the middle of the story

more impossible than seeing Magnar having sex with a LI of some game ever existed.

He openly bragged about how many branches or decisions his game had. Now if none of your previous decisions or branches you chose matter at this point, it's going to come back and bite him in the ass.

Especially if he makes it that Jade is mad at you no matter what you did at that point. Besides that is going to be so OOC of Jade that it's a whole another matter to discuss.

Or if Burke suddenly becomes an asshole to the MC, even though in the last 8 episodes he has never been anything but friendly and very diplomatic with him.

P.S: I'm still waiting for that Magnar and Jeane scene, in which he nuts inside her.

 

[shazba]

but also 16 or 32 years, like one render a week
the longer the better....

as a gamer there is not a single reason to wish that you have to wait longer (as if six months per chapter were not enough...), but maybe it's me who's strange...

But that's a little disingenuous, you know DPC is churning out renders faster than any other game here.

Pretty much most other games here are taking about the same time between updates, some a bit longer, and some bit shorter. But they all deliver less than this game, most definitely.

The time between DPC's episodes is justified, more so than any other game. We're lucky it's coming out as fast as it is for what's actually delivered.

 

[felicemastronzo]

But that's a little disingenuous, you know DPC is churning out renders faster than any other game here.

Pretty much most other games here are taking about the same time between updates, some a bit longer, and some bit shorter. But they all deliver less than this game, most definitely.

So why the fuck do people keep complaining about how long this game is taking?

You're the one who said 8 years or 4 years is the same thing...

not me, so if you are the one who is ungenerous with DPC which should double the implementation time

 

[shazba]

You're the one who said 8 years or 4 years is the same thing...

not me, so if you are the one who is ungenerous with DPC which should double the implementation time

4 years is how long it should take if he does 2 episodes a year (the current rate), and 8 years is based on people crying that we'll only see one episode a year.

I'm suggesting it'll take as long as it takes.

You're talking about one render a week; it has nothing to do with what was being discussed.

 

[felicemastronzo]

4 years is how long it should take if he does 2 episodes a year (the current rate), and 8 years is based on people crying that we'll only see one episode a year.

I'm suggesting it'll take as long as it takes.

You're talking about one render a week; it has nothing to do with what was being discussed.

that was clearly a provocation, as yours

if 4 more years doesn't make a difference why should it make 8?

 

[felicemastronzo]

He openly bragged about how many branches or decisions his game had. Now if none of your previous decisions or branches you chose matter at this point, it's going to come back and bite him in the ass.

Especially if he makes it that Jade is mad at you no matter what you did at that point. Besides that is going to be so OOC of Jade that it's a whole another matter to discuss.

Or if Burke suddenly becomes an asshole to the MC, even though in the last 8 episodes he has never been anything but friendly and very diplomatic with him.

P.S: I'm still waiting for that Magnar and Jeane scene, in which he nuts inside her.

but the ramifications have already been there, it's full of events that you only witness under certain conditions and choices. but the story has always remained granitically one.

why should it change now?

DPC also put the mega-decision in the last chapter that unifies the different runs even more, there will be no more runs where you court more than one LI.
the context story will always be the same, it could be that after the meeting Maya or Sage will dump MC, but it is not possible that Maya will solve or not her problem because of MC's escapades

p.s. sit comfortably that the wait will be very long, the sun will go out first

 

[Kellermann]

Last time I wrote about the Interlude my post got deleted for being off topic...

Anyway, I don't know why you guys are making such a big negative deal about the Interlude.

DPC said it outright, he wanted to provide a bit of backstory (just like the prologues for many of the previous episodes), but this one warranted a long enough prologue to make it standalone. He also made that comment in the context of the story being about halfway.

This is not the new normal, it's just a novelty (his exact words were "a special part of the game").

Personally I reckon he would have done better to not even have announced it, and then released it midway through the development of the next episode. Like something to break the drought. Everyone would have played it and would be looking forward to more Zoey, instead he announced it way early and now we've all gotta wait while watching the less optimistic of us wailing about how they don't want Zoey.

And in the same vein, back on the topic of how long it will take DPC to finish the game, and how it's gonna take years: Most decent games take years to make, it's just you don't end up playing them piecemeal throughout the development.

If this game takes 8 years to make and we get to play a piece of it each year, that's fine (better than having to wait 8 years before we even get to play 1 minute of it).

Too many people act like 8 years (or 4 or 10 or whatever) is such a long time. Like they'll be dead before then (Mark Takagi, I'm sure you'll live to see the end ). It's no time at all. Game of Thrones aired for 9 years, and that's been over for almost 3 years already.

This game will be over in no time, and you'll all be complaining about how long his next game is taking.

Because it is distracting from the main story and the characters we are invested in and instead focusing on unknown characters that I don't give a toss about. the Interlude has already likely pushed the release date of ep. 9 to late 2022. That's why. Please don't tell me you're back on your "I don't care if it takes 12 months between episodes, I'm willing to wait! uWu!" theme. You had some sensible post nut clarity right after ep. 8 but it sounds like you're back to your old ways.

You like Zoey, I'm happy for you, good on you. I don't and as a result this entire enterprise is a waste of time, especially if it won't have MC as...well, the MC. Playing as fem protag Zoey while she sucks and fucks her way through san Diego? No thank you. I've dealt with Neil and Lynette backstory and that was bad enough, but forcing this insufferable blue-haired woman's backstory on me is irritating. Waiting to announce the Interlude wouldn't have helped either. My reaction still would be...this is what we get for holding up production on ep. 9? The only reason DPC is bringing Zoey back into this is so he can thrust yet another temptation obstacle at the player after (forcing) choosing a permanent breeding partner. Because he knows that after 8 episodes the average player has locked in to their waifu.

 

[hakuna-matata]

then statistically the most likely outcome of leaving MC and Josy waiting outside is that they end up having sex in the bathroom...

I can picture that too.

 

[PashafromRussia]

but the ramifications have already been there, it's full of events that you only witness under certain conditions and choices. but the story has always remained granitically one.

why should it change now?

DPC also put the mega-decision in the last chapter that unifies the different runs even more, there will be no more runs where you court more than one LI.
the context story will always be the same, it could be that after the meeting Maya or Sage will dump MC, but it is not possible that Maya will solve or not her problem because of MC's escapades

p.s. sit comfortably that the wait will be very long, the sun will go out first

This is extremely impractical. He may well recreate a situation in which Jade is angry at you regardless of whether you fucked her or not. MС could humiliate Tybalt, beat him up, and Jade as his mother can be angry. Only the context can change. If he really implements all the variables of the outcome of the meeting with Burke, the development of one episode will definitely take a year.

 

[Lostanddamned]

but the ramifications have already been there, it's full of events that you only witness under certain conditions and choices. but the story has always remained granitically one.

why should it change now?

DPC also put the mega-decision in the last chapter that unifies the different runs even more, there will be no more runs where you court more than one LI.
the context story will always be the same, it could be that after the meeting Maya or Sage will dump MC, but it is not possible that Maya will solve or not her problem because of MC's escapades

p.s. sit comfortably that the wait will be very long, the sun will go out first

This is extremely impractical. He may well recreate a situation in which Jade is angry at you regardless of whether you fucked her or not. MС could humiliate Tybalt, beat him up, and Jade as his mother can be angry. Only the context can change. If he really implements all the variables of the outcome of the meeting with Burke, the development of one episode will definitely take a year.

Unless he does something that fits all the routes - like, MC's phone rings and he goes out to talk, or something very serious comes up involving the DIK's or he figures out an outcome that fits all the routes, I think DPC's in trouble.

Like there's no way out of this, unless he changes character personalities that are already defined in the middle of the story or figuress out resolving this retarded storyline in the simplest possible way, without delving into the details because the more he does that the more he screws up.

I've already said it, if he doesn't want to be tangled up, his best option is either Stephen explaining to Maya how loans really work or Stephen deciding to financially help because this is Sage asking him for help personally and he can be like "We'll take care of it". If he want to add drama, he can have Stephen take shots at Jade and Maya for not taking the Finance classes, going to the Gender Studies instead. Although that wouldn't be typical of Stephen, who even though has been painted in a villainous light, has never been anything but friendly and diplomatic with other characters.

 

[felicemastronzo]

Unless he does something that fits all the routes - like, MC's phone rings and he goes out to talk, or something very serious comes up involving the DIK's or he figures out an outcome that fits all the routes, I think DPC's in trouble.

Like there's no way out of this, unless he changes character personalities that are already defined in the middle of the story or figuress out resolving this retarded storyline in the simplest possible way, without delving into the details because the more he does that the more he screws up.

I've already said it, if he doesn't want to be tangled up, his best option is either Stephen explaining to Maya how loans really work or Stephen deciding to financially help because this is Sage asking him for help personally and he can be like "We'll take care of it". If he want to add drama, he can have Stephen take shots at Jade and Maya for not taking the Finance classes, going to the Gender Studies instead. Although that wouldn't be typical of Stephen, who even though has been painted in a villainous light, has never been anything but friendly and diplomatic with other characters.

easy and cheap solution: Burke tells Maya what he has to say, probably just that he will look for a solution. when they leave the room Burke (if he has seen the footage) and Jade (if she has or had a relationship with MC) see Mc and notice him and make some strange expression

the possible consequences only afterwards


the meeting with Burke is at the beginning of the chapter, nothing too important can happen, like with the arrival of Patrick

 

[vogelbeest]

the fault of this is entirely DPC's, who kept on talking about this loan making it less and less credible. if the author keeps on talking about it adding details it's normal that even here they talk about it, almost in every chapter there was an addition on the matter.

if DPC had simply once told us that Maya's father controlled the money of her college enrollment nobody would have asked too many questions, instead DPC had to create the hyper drama of Maya being condemned to bankruptcy for life if she didn't obey her father...

You say it yourself, her father controls the money, that's the whole issue, the story isn't essentially changed either way, her motivation and what she does or how she interacts with the people around her doesn't change...
People falling over the what and how and then swinging a book of law to prove something is just out of proportion.
It happened early in the story, we're 1,5 - 2 years later now, DPC did not choose to make a change and is simply continuing the story as is canon.... None of us consider this to be a gamebreaker, we still play BaDik and read and even comment here.

 

[Deleted member 4298851]

As of the end of E3...staying at Sage's

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[ShiroJinko]

Hello, Does we have the season 1 and 2 like steam ?

 

[Deleted member 4298851]

Hello, Does we have the season 1 and 2 like steam ?

Yes, what is available on Steam is available here in the original post. It is the same game, same version.

 

[Skeltom]

As of the end of E3...staying at Sage's

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That just reminded me that I still need to set up my Sage Chick save. I completely forgot to do it last time I was making saves.

 

[Antera]

How exactly Jade's husbands get its had on sex tape? Did MC even make one? I think I am missing something