PashafromRussia

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but Mc will not take part in the discussion, or so Sage asks him, he will wait outside with Josy, so he will not directly support either Sage or Maya.

the way the scene has been presented he will have as usual the passive role of a shoulder to cry on if things go wrong, but waiting for them outside the door or outside the building, or in his room doesn't change much (apart from the possible drama with Jade)
I can imagine how Sage arranged with Burke to help Maya. They all leave the room together, Jade sees MC and abruptly refuses. But on the other hand, this will force DPC to make a whole separate branch for Maya where she is not provided with help from Jade, and this is difficult.
 

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How does he support if he fucked Jade, Burke has the tape and he punched Tybalt.

All he does in that situation is hurt Maya because the meeting becomes more about him than her problem.
True, but MC didn't know until they got there who Jade's relatives would turn out to be. He NOW thinks he's going to fuck everything up; he didn't before.
 

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I don't think you understand what "support" means. There have been innumerable occasions when my ex-wife wanted me with her, not to do anything, say anything or help in any way, but just because she felt better knowing I was there.
but you will agree that it is very different to be generally close, to be at least within sight or to be in the same room.

one can also be supportive with a phone call from the other side of the world, but it is not the same thing

the support that MC can give to Maya in this situation is very relative
 

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Actually it's all the same with the other characters in the game... pick one be nice to her that's all :LOL: I don't really get the fuss about this... sure things can get complicated if you mix LIs in one run... but why would you do that ? :oops::p:ROFLMAO:
The only reason why I'm making a big stink about this is because it's me, after more than two or years, attempting something totally new that's NOT Jill related; different choices, situations, all of it, so yeah, I'm fussing like a baby over it because I don't want to waste a day or two fucking everything up, especially if I want to make an actual, serious run at Rio going into E9.
 

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I can imagine how Sage arranged with Burke to help Maya. They all leave the room together, Jade sees MC and abruptly refuses. But on the other hand, this will force DPC to make a whole separate branch for Maya where she is not provided with help from Jade, and this is difficult.
it doesn't make sense that Jade refuses to help a girl in serious difficulty out of spite for a friend of the girl's

That would be really childish behaviour
 
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If you don't reject her, Jade will definitely want some "support" from the mc. Right there on the kitchen table, while her husband discusses business with Maya and co.
 
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it doesn't make sense that Jade refuses to help a girl in serious difficulty out of spite for a friend of the girl's

That would be really childish behaviour
Some adults are childish a lot of the time.

It could go the other way; Jade might be a lot more accepting of the MC scrapping their trysts if she thinks that it's Sage, her own daughter, who he's getting serious with; she might appreciate knowing that her daughter's bf is refusing to cheat. But if it suits DPC to create yet more drama, then Jade lashes out at MC by wrecking the dreams of one of his friends.

There are so many variables in play here - did MC ever fuck Jade in the first place, has Burke got a sex tape, is MC dating Sage, is MC dating Maya ... that the story could go in almost any direction. How many different futures is DPC going to write in, depending on which of those variables has what status? I have no clue.
 

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"Hey Lily, Maya needs some cash to cover tuition. Could you show her the ropes at The Pink Rose? Dancer, bartender, doesn't matter."
 
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I think we're going to have to swallow the fact that in DiK universe, that is how loans work. I don't know whether DPC wasn't aware of the legal details, or just ignored them for poetic licence... but I'm pretty sure this does not get resolved by someone just pointing out that it's all nonsense.
Imho the whole "Maya loan-debate" is one of the most (if not the most) out of proportion discussed trivialities in this thread...
Call it artistic freedom and accept the fact it's her motivation to want to join the HOT's, her reason to do things she otherwise would not have done and her story is integral to the main story.... Her relation with Josy is also influenced by these events and no matter if you're on her path or not she is a friend and you're even part of helping Maya in her "quest for tuition".
Judging BaDik as if it was a legal documentary seems just plain nitpicking to me....
 

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Some adults are childish a lot of the time.

It could go the other way; Jade might be a lot more accepting of the MC scrapping their trysts if she thinks that it's Sage, her own daughter, who he's getting serious with; she might appreciate knowing that her daughter's bf is refusing to cheat. But if it suits DPC to create yet more drama, then Jade lashes out at MC by wrecking the dreams of one of his friends.

There are so many variables in play here - did MC ever fuck Jade in the first place, has Burke got a sex tape, is MC dating Sage, is MC dating Maya ... that the story could go in almost any direction. How many different futures is DPC going to write in, depending on which of those variables has what status? I have no clue.
That meeting is going to make for some great drama!
 
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you talk from the point of view of your theories, but from the point of view of the two girls inviting him the function of MC is strictly that of a shoulder to cry on in case of emergency

Then going back to your hypothesis:
why would MC break in while Maya and Sage are having a very important discussion? it would be an idiotic and meaningless move, what would he do? eavesdropping at the door?

Meeting Jade is the only twist in the segment, so even if he were to meet her at class the next day, it would change very little...

if Maya were to run out crying then precisely MC will fulfill his role as a shoulder to cry on, as he always did with Maya
I don't think so. There are just too many things that indicate that this conversation will be more about the MC than Maya. I don't even mean the photos and the possible obvious interactions of the MC with the people in the pictures.:rolleyes:

EP5: Stephen Burke has a conversation with, of all people, Gordon and Christian, the two preps with whom the MC can smoke the peace pipe in EP8.

EP5: Mona runs away from Stephen and he looks directly at the MC. Remember Mona's poster from EP6? "GIRLS JUST WANNA HAVE FUNDS" Who was all in that room? Quinn, Lily, Camila, and Mona. Quinn wanted the MC from the beginning and tells her restaurant girls not to mess with the MC. Camila has the opportunity to do this more than once. But what does Camila tell the MC at the EP5 prep party? That she doesn't like what she's doing. Lily cheers Jackpot at EP7's HOT party. Mona doesn't mind fucking young guys for money. Only Mona can make two mistakes visible to us. She slaps the MC and says that he fucked her both (Mona and Camila) and at EP4 DIK party Mona drunkenly says that she wants to fuck the MC too. And all of a sudden Mona gets an unjustified immoral offer and is allowed to leave a little later, after another conversation with Stephen Burke.(y)

EP2: Josy tells the MC that he is too cute for the DIK's. Oddly enough, in EP5, the DIK mansion is destroyed and subsequently rebuilt only through the MC's persistence.(y)

EP8: When Sage asks the MC to come along, I get the feeling that Sage is afraid of losing the MC as a friend. But why? It is inevitable that the MC will go to the interview. So why is Sage afraid?:unsure:

Because the MC will learn something that some of the participants know and have hidden from the MC.:unsure:
 
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The only reason why I'm making a big stink about this is because it's me, after more than two or years, attempting something totally new that's NOT Jill related; different choices, situations, all of it, so yeah, I'm fussing like a baby over it because I don't want to waste a day or two fucking everything up, especially if I want to make an actual, serious run at Rio going into E9.
I did not meant specifically YOU... everyone drawing branch routes and whatnots when it's soooo simple... if you are nice to the one you are aiming for you will get your reward... if you are sticking your dick in every hole that comes around... why acting surprised when the desired result falls short ?!? :oops: :p :KEK:
 

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I strongly suspect that we will get to see the MC. :rolleyes:

Before high school::unsure:
Neil had a legal battle at one point. Maybe we'll learn more about that as well.

High School::unsure:
We know how Zoey and the MC met. But what we don't know is how the parents' lawsuit was averted by the bully the MC beat up. The charges were averted, so no lawsuit. We will also certainly learn how Zoey and the MC became closer. Why did Zoey go to San Diego before, or how could Zoey go to San Diego before? Simple. Zoey is 1 year older than the MC. Josy lived with her father during her senior year of high school. This is where the events overlap. The MC is still in high school when Zoey goes to San Diego. Now Josy comes to the same high school, but never meets Zoey. The breakup between the MC and Zoey was not long ago and the MC was also not sure if it was love or not. The MC doesn't want to jump right into the next relationship. Josy is in a relationship with Maya and we know that Josy is faithful in a relationship but that she doesn't talk about that relationship. Josy and the MC probably run into each other all the time at school, but don't notice each other. That only happens when they both work at the store.

But what does this have to do with Zoey now? Zoey is a year older than the MC. What if Zoey just wanted to take a year off and then go to college with the MC? Then Zoey meets Josy's mom in San Diego as she's getting a tattoo. They talk at length and find things in common, like Josy goes to the same high school as Zoey. Now Zoey meets another man and falls in love with him. Contact between Zoey and the MC breaks off. But Zoey's new relationship does not last. Suddenly she sees a video of Tremolo on the Internet, as he gives a concert with Jill. Old memories are awakened and Zoey goes off to college.

In my opinion, Interlude will answer some questions.:rolleyes::unsure:

How did Tommy end up at B&R? (This question is not really important).
Josy was not accepted to B&R in the beginning. And why? She's actually the perfect college girl.
Surprisingly, she does get accepted to B&R. But why? Was she on the phone with her mother? Is Josy's mother and/or Zoey the connection to the rich and powerful in the BaDIK world?

DPC himself has written that he is also doing the interlude to clarify some issues and not just for technical reasons. It is also to answer some questions to better understand EP9.:D(y)
Josy spent her highschool years at the B&R city since she went to school with Maya and Derek!

The question is where did Tommy went to school? he should know the MC if he lived with his mother! same city and shit!
but then again depends on the school, i still meet people today that went to school with me including on the same year and i do not recall them... ok only guys i can not remember!

As for how Tommy got into College? We see him with Rusty so Rusty moved a few strings to have his best friend with him!

but the other strong possibility is that Tommy is actually older and from the same time as Jill Sage and Tybalt and he met Rusty when Rusty was assigned his dorm room? Perhaps tommy lost a year or 2 and is actually 4-5 years older then Josy? but that would mean that he stroke out a really quick friendship with Rusty right away and Rusty although not the most secure of dudes would put up a wall to a friendship with a smoking bad ass Tommy if it did not came from before!

Maybe summer camp? Rusty probably went to private college !

Zoey being 1 year older does make sense!
Tommy being 2 years older then what we presume also since it would explain why he does not recognize the MC even tough they come from the same city!

Yeah I'm actually a little nervous because I don't want to waste hours trying to get whatever Rio screenies I can. I'm going to have to do a run where I'm not a client of hers and a run where I am just to get whatever I can.

At least Jill's run is pretty straight-forward, do this and this and that happens. We'll see how long I can go with this. Taking a big step outta my comfort zone.
there is a red button with an X on your top right corner, if it starts being too much you can click it!
i know i did it 2 times already playing a few games with surprise unnatural NTR (i mean if the MC can not see it, how come we are forced to watch it?)!
and ofc dozens of times at surprise incest traps... not my thing, do not force feed me landlady bullshit!
Nothing against the kink, unless you remove my agency on the matter to tell my sister to buy a freaking dildo and stop sleep raping me with her mouth!


You're just forgetting something again. :D

Those who wait outside can also go into the room later.
Those who wait outside can also meet other people (Jade) and together they can then go into the room.
Those who wait outside can also see who comes running out of the room.
Those waiting outside can also be invited in by the people who are already in the room.

Shall I continue?:rolleyes:
those that wait outside can also watch a Tybalt meltdown as he goes hysterical and demands that the MC leaves his house and calls security and the cops on the MC if the MC as traumatized him enough! or Tybalt tries to murder the MC in a rage attack using the excuse of trespassing hurting Josy in the process?

i propose an iron spike like the ones we use for fireplaces as the weapon of the attack giving Josy a sexy facial warscar, i´m getting hard already!
 
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Some adults are childish a lot of the time.

It could go the other way; Jade might be a lot more accepting of the MC scrapping their trysts if she thinks that it's Sage, her own daughter, who he's getting serious with; she might appreciate knowing that her daughter's bf is refusing to cheat. But if it suits DPC to create yet more drama, then Jade lashes out at MC by wrecking the dreams of one of his friends.

There are so many variables in play here - did MC ever fuck Jade in the first place, has Burke got a sex tape, is MC dating Sage, is MC dating Maya ... that the story could go in almost any direction. How many different futures is DPC going to write in, depending on which of those variables has what status? I have no clue.
This leads me to think that half of the variables will be ignored. DPC has done this before. Whether MC beat Tybalt, whether he meets Maya or not, whether he uses the services of the restaurant, all this will be omitted. I'm sure DPC will focus on the romance with Jade and the sex video, and the rest will play a secondary role. At the very least, he will devote a couple of lines to this. That's exactly why I'm not too worried about Sage's way. It will be the decisions made in episode 9 that will affect, but not the past ones. Otherwise, the code in episode 9 will become chaos.
 

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Last time I wrote about the Interlude my post got deleted for being off topic... :rolleyes:

Anyway, I don't know why you guys are making such a big negative deal about the Interlude.

DPC said it outright, he wanted to provide a bit of backstory (just like the prologues for many of the previous episodes), but this one warranted a long enough prologue to make it standalone. He also made that comment in the context of the story being about halfway.

This is not the new normal, it's just a novelty (his exact words were "a special part of the game").

Personally I reckon he would have done better to not even have announced it, and then released it midway through the development of the next episode. Like something to break the drought. Everyone would have played it and would be looking forward to more Zoey, instead he announced it way early and now we've all gotta wait while watching the less optimistic of us wailing about how they don't want Zoey.

And in the same vein, back on the topic of how long it will take DPC to finish the game, and how it's gonna take years: Most decent games take years to make, it's just you don't end up playing them piecemeal throughout the development.

If this game takes 8 years to make and we get to play a piece of it each year, that's fine (better than having to wait 8 years before we even get to play 1 minute of it).

Too many people act like 8 years (or 4 or 10 or whatever) is such a long time. Like they'll be dead before then (Mark Takagi, I'm sure you'll live to see the end :p). It's no time at all. Game of Thrones aired for 9 years, and that's been over for almost 3 years already.

This game will be over in no time, and you'll all be complaining about how long his next game is taking. :ROFLMAO:
 

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there is a red button with an X on your top right corner, if it starts being too much you can click it!
i know i did it 2 times already playing a few games with surprise unnatural NTR (i mean if the MC can not see it, how come we are forced to watch it?)!
Yeah I've dropped a few games where I was shocked to see stuff like that where I didn't expect it to be. Anyways, I'm going quiet about this whole thing. If I do it, I do. If not, oh well, but if I do, I guess I'll report my "findings".
 

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I think that's part of DPC's problem. I've heard vague mentions in the forum that there's dialogue from Maya where she apologizes for the 100% thing. I've never seen it because I don't play the M/J path anymore. If there is such dialogue then DPC has put it in the wrong place. Any efforts to make amends should have gone to an MC that was rejected by M/J, not to the ones on her path. Sometimes I think DPC doesn't realize that he's got a game here with multiple paths.
I don't think Maya's ever really apologized for that. She touches on the subject in the ruined library in Episode 4. It's an informal apology, but it falls well short of the mark if she then turns around and rejects the MC for nebulous DIK reasons.
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If you visit Maya in Episode 7, she'll also admit she should have listened to the MC about Quinn. This can happen even if she rejected the MC, but only if you explained how Quinn was Pure Evil!, and only if you visit Maya after the freeroam. And it's still only an implied apology if we want to get technical.
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I can't think of anything else that might qualify. I am curious if that might change next season, though. It seems clear Season 3 is going to be about testing and rethinking relationships, so it might make sense for the MC and Maya to revisit why it didn't work out if one of them rejected the other. It's a longshot, but I think it's possible. And it would certainly be a nice idea.


Yes, get her at the Ep7 party. Toward the end of the episode she will text you asking for help where she thinks someone is following her.

EP8 is interesting on the Rio path as if you help her with the stalker problem at the dorm party her attitude does appear to change toward you (it is nice in a way and a victory for Rio fans).

Also at the end of Ep8 if everything else happens, she rearranges the furniture in your room as a bit of a tease (like a little kid would do when they like someone).... it is sweet in a way but what I think is also important is Heather says, "Be nice to her".
To me, that is pretty big. Rio has either already told Heather about MC or Heather has really good intuition that Rio likes MC.

Make my "Interlude" a full up Rio/MC episode :p With good writing, Rio could be girlfriend material.
I agree Riona's potential relationship with the MC does seem to be evolving, but IMHO Heather's "Be nice" comment was more mundane. I think she just wants the MC not to tease her too much over her OCD-like tendencies.

I doubt Riona has discussed the MC as a romantic partner with Heather. Rio generally keeps her thoughts very closely guarded, and there's no indication Heather is any sort of confidante.


I don't understand him. He always complains that the long development process increases his stress. And instead of making the episodes shorter, but richer, he makes a side story the size of the first episode. While from the outside it looks like he's tired of the game, he wants to take a break by focusing on the side story about Zoey.

P.S. If he really decides on a mini-episode+ episode strategy, he will never finish the game. It's impossible.
He needs at least 8 years to close all this.

That's why I'm waiting for his questions and answers and I'm afraid that he has changed his mind about the number of episodes in the direction of increasing them.
The aftermath of Episode 8 was the first time DPC has given a realistic estimation of the total number of episodes; I don't think he's changed his mind in the last two months. And I doubt he plans to makes Interludes a regular thing, though that might change if it's wildly popular.

Really, I think it just comes down to DPC being a perfectionist. He gets ideas and he just can't help but develop them, even if he could have achieved 80% of the same effect with 20% of the effort. The Interlude probably started as big flashback to set up Zoey's story, but he had so many ideas and was so eager for the players to love her that it blew up into a mini-episode. Now it will threaten to blow up into a semi-episode, or even a slightly-undersize-episode if he's not careful.

He could really use a good editor he can trust to avoid his tunnel vision and keep him on track. Sadly, DPC is also a bit of a control freak and has enough money to do whatever he wants. So we're stuck with him falling down one rabbit hole after another. We just have to hope for the best.
 
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