VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[znar25]

Future episode ..... Sage on the friendzone path.

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Sage: Hi MC, I was wondering if you could come over and fix the icemaker on the HoTs refrigerator?

MC: Can I do it after this weekend? Your mom and I are going away this weekend for a little together time while your dad is out of town.

Sage: Sounds good. I am so happy you and mom found each other. She deserves to be taken good care of.... see ya...

 

[vogelbeest]

If this were a workload problem, than there is a lot of fat that could've been trimmed from the game instead. There's the Dungeons and Gremlins sessions, the Madame scenes, the houseplant watering minigame. Stuff like that should've been cut instead of making the MC into a terrible friend to half the potential love interests.

Not really, the same characters being used in dungeons and gremlins are used in the main story so it's not like you need a complete model and any further backstory for them, besides that since it is fantasy we have access to lewd scenes with characters that may be locked out due to affinity or your choices. Yes, DPC could have chosen to cut minigames, but he's enjoying himself too much making these. Or he could have chosen to drop Madame, sure, he could have hired people aswell.

DPC made choices what he wants in the game and how he does it. But that does not mean this medium does not come with limitations. Scenes that appear no matter what MC choices are must be working regardless of choices, so it's much easier to make slight differences in a scene based on choices then making 2 completely different scenes.

As for how relations with the several LI's happen and what choices we can make, there's always things we would like to see different or have another option then the ones ingame. But DPC pretty much keeps the storylines of the several LI's in the center of the main story, whether we are on their path or not.... Being on their path just opens additional scenes...

As for pushing back Quinn, you have that option at the cum-petition, sure, you're not gonna be able to gloat but you can defend Maya and you can fake cumming, both piss her off. But getting Sage on her case about the restaurant probably only creates more problems for story concistency. The restaurant, Burke's scholarships, Maya's loan or quest for free tuition are just sides of the same coin.... and the restaurant being found out also means the drugs storylines Vinnie, Quinn, Lily, Tommy are affected.

 

[AchedCroissant]

Just want to ask about the tag female protagonist... I played the previous version and there was no female protagonist... Who are we playing with now? Thank you

Zoey

 

[znar25]

.... Or he could have chosen to drop Madame,.......

We have yet to find out if Madame is a Royce or Bergermeister. So, she is needed for the story.

 

[vogelbeest]

We have yet to find out if Madame is a Royce or Bergermeister. So, she is needed for the story.

It's not completely unthinkable she actually is needed for the story, you only have access to her path when you focus on being a major DIK, so possible it's needed to beat Tommy for that title or she is your "get out of jail free card" when the Jade vid ends up in Burke's hands.... Something like that... So she's probably a Burke.

 

[felicemastronzo]

What does Burke? He supplies scholarships for sex, he makes huge donations, he is always looking for sponsors....
Come on, 1 + 1.... he has so many ways to not have any trouble with the books, he's keeping them....
For all we know the sex for scholarship is his way to get donations...

let's not get confused. on the one hand there is the issue of prostitution, that would be lethal for Burke even if only as an unsubstantiated rumor, a professor suspected of having something to do with a student prostitution ring would be worth at the very least a heavy downsizing of his role within the BR


then there is the question of scholarships, which are an entry of the BR, in its books. leaving aside everything we do not know, they are documents managed in a very creative way, which in the Western world is a crime

Capone was caught by the IRS, a criminal organization is relatively difficult to uncover, tax inaccuracies are much easier to reveal, as the chronicles tell us.

 

[vogelbeest]

let's not get confused. on the one hand there is the issue of prostitution, that would be lethal for Burke even if only as an unsubstantiated rumor, a professor suspected of having something to do with a student prostitution ring would be worth at the very least a heavy downsizing of his role within the BR


then there is the question of scholarships, which are an entry of the BR, in its books. leaving aside everything we do not know, they are documents managed in a very creative way, which in the Western world is a crime

Capone was caught by the IRS, a criminal organization is relatively difficult to uncover, tax inaccuracies are much easier to reveal, as the chronicles tell us.

It's safe to assume Burke does not know about the restaurant and if he does he certainly is not organising it. There's enough conversations in the game the money from the restaurant is used to for the girls drugs. It's not tied to any scholarships since we know Camilla only does the restaurant. The restaurant is Quinn's business, scholarships is Burke's, it's two separate things.

Then the scholarships, we have no way to say it's a fraude. We only know girls that have sex with older men happen to get a scholarship. There was a scholarship file for Mona, it's nothing special, such documents are standarised and as soon they get approved a bill will be send to the actual scholarship provider. Nothing any bookkeeper can get punished for, it's not even a problem if you consider tuition can be paid before each semester.... Especially schools should have no problem providing easy payment options. In the end it's just about the number of students, the total semesters, the payments by parents, students, loan institutes and scholarships, if the numbers are accounted for it's good.

The problem you see is having scholarships that have no payment booking, and falsifying that, now that's punishable.
But Mona's scholarship file got deleted, it's gone.... The sponsor does not have to pay, end of story....

 

[felicemastronzo]

It's safe to assume Burke does not know about the restaurant and if he does he certainly is not organising it. There's enough conversations in the game the money from the restaurant is used to for the girls drugs. It's not tied to any scholarships since we know Camilla only does the restaurant. The restaurant is Quinn's business, scholarships is Burke's, it's two separate things.

Then the scholarships, we have no way to say it's a fraude. We only know girls that have sex with older men happen to get a scholarship. There was a scholarship file for Mona, it's nothing special, such documents are standarised and as soon they get approved a bill will be send to the actual scholarship provider. Nothing any bookkeeper can get punished for, it's not even a problem if you consider tuition can be paid before each semester.... Especially schools should have no problem providing easy payment options. In the end it's just about the number of students, the total semesters, the payments by parents, students, loan institutes and scholarships, if the numbers are accounted for it's good.

The problem you see is having scholarships that have no payment booking, and falsifying that, now that's punishable.
But Mona's scholarship file got deleted, it's gone.... The sponsor does not have to pay, end of story....

where do you get all these certainties about Burke? as a customer of the restaurant it is difficult for him not to know about it (or does he think that he could casually have sex with a girl to whom he casually gave a scholarship? MC knows, and Burke not?), then he actually manages one of the payments for the girls of the restaurant, it is only to be seen if Quinn works for him or the opposite.

How is this not a scam?

we don't know who the scholarship money belongs to, if it were any normal institution, surely it is not Burke who can manage it personally and independently, if it is not a normal institution it is definitely a scam or worse.

 

[NebulousShooter]

Everyone trusts Lily because she is a stripper from the Pink Rose.

Lily is a FED

 

[vogelbeest]

where do you get all these certainties about Burke? as a customer of the restaurant it is difficult for him not to know about it (or does he think that he could casually have sex with a girl to whom he casually gave a scholarship? MC knows, and Burke not?), then he actually manages one of the payments for the girls of the restaurant, it is only to be seen if Quinn works for him or the opposite.

How is this not a scam?

we don't know who the scholarship money belongs to, if it were any normal institution, surely it is not Burke who can manage it personally and independently, if it is not a normal institution it is definitely a scam or worse.

We are not sure Burke is even the one getting sex for the scholarships, we only know he is involved in providing scholarships for girls who have sex with old men. So where do you get the info in the game Burke is getting off in student toilets? That is what the restaurant actually is, anything else can be explained as special services, MC either gets the merchandise in a toilet or he gets it during a party, but besides the first prep party ever to be "hosted" by the HOT's Burke is never present....

Furthermore if he is getting sex for the scholarships, there is nothing for Burke to get from the restaurant where he would have to pay the same girls for something he gets for free. It's only more risk for him, risk he does not want or need. There is no reason in game to assume he knows about it.... You just assume he and Quinn are full partners and share all information, that is just highly unlikely.

The money for the scholarships most likely comes from the sponsors he keeps looking for. We don't know exactly how but there's 2 simple scenario's. 1 The sponsors give money for scholarships and Burke gets girls to have sex with him before they get the tuition. 2 The sponsors get to have sex with the girl then sponsor a scholarship for the girl.
No matter what option, sex first then the scholarship fee will be paid to B&R.... It's only in the books after the sex....

 

[PashafromRussia]

The money for the scholarships most likely comes from the sponsors he keeps looking for. We don't know exactly how but there's 2 simple scenario's. 1 The sponsors give money for scholarships and Burke gets girls to have sex with him before they get the tuition. 2 The sponsors get to have sex with the girl then sponsor a scholarship for the girl.
No matter what option, sex first then the scholarship fee will be paid to B&R.... It's only in the books after the sex....

It looks silly anyway. Sponsors are rich cats, they don't need to pay thousands of dollars just to fuck a young pussy once or twice a month. They can do it at any time. Quinn's restaurant and free tuition would make sense if any of the sponsors could fuck any girl from Quinn's restaurant at any time, and as we understand it, this is not the case.
In fact, Quinn's restaurant and the so-called free tuition is another example of a bad letter from Pink. From whatever angle you look, the character looks stupid and frivolous.

 

[Deleted member 4541730]

It looks silly anyway. Sponsors are rich cats, they don't need to pay thousands of dollars just to fuck a young pussy once or twice a month. They can do it at any time. Quinn's restaurant and free tuition would make sense if any of the sponsors could fuck any girl from Quinn's restaurant at any time, and as we understand it, this is not the case.
In fact, Quinn's restaurant and the so-called free tuition is another example of a bad letter from Pink. From whatever angle you look, the character looks stupid and frivolous.

Shhhhh you're implying DPC isn't a literary genius. That's not allowed.

 

[TuffyTenToes]

Hey DPC, how about some Arieth action on Season 3? MC is probably inmune to crabs anyhow, and the dog food breath can be easily solved.

 

[vogelbeest]

It looks silly anyway. Sponsors are rich cats, they don't need to pay thousands of dollars just to fuck a young pussy once or twice a month. They can do it at any time.

Yeah, it's still most likely Burke is the one getting sex but it's not told he is the one. But either way, Burke has the means, the motive and the opportunity just like any of the sponsors. We just don't know exactly. Would it make more sense for the sponsors to go to the Pink Rose? Yes but same goes for Burke.... Even the restaurant girls could apply for a job there.
But from story perspective it's kinda hard getting Maya into a similar scenario she is now.... No meeting with the Burke's is just one event in that storyline.... there's certainly more to follow...

 

[felicemastronzo]

We are not sure Burke is even the one getting sex for the scholarships, we only know he is involved in providing scholarships for girls who have sex with old men. So where do you get the info in the game Burke is getting off in student toilets? That is what the restaurant actually is, anything else can be explained as special services, MC either gets the merchandise in a toilet or he gets it during a party, but besides the first prep party ever to be "hosted" by the HOT's Burke is never present....

Furthermore if he is getting sex for the scholarships, there is nothing for Burke to get from the restaurant where he would have to pay the same girls for something he gets for free. It's only more risk for him, risk he does not want or need. There is no reason in game to assume he knows about it.... You just assume he and Quinn are full partners and share all information, that is just highly unlikely.

The money for the scholarships most likely comes from the sponsors he keeps looking for. We don't know exactly how but there's 2 simple scenario's. 1 The sponsors give money for scholarships and Burke gets girls to have sex with him before they get the tuition. 2 The sponsors get to have sex with the girl then sponsor a scholarship for the girl.
No matter what option, sex first then the scholarship fee will be paid to B&R.... It's only in the books after the sex....

I don't understand the distinctions you make

The glory hole in the bathroom is restaurant, why shouldn't the rest be? Mc when he has a threesome with Quinn and Riona may be a special, but the money ends up in the same wallet and the offer was always made by the same "waitress", it is a restaurant as well as the rest. when Quinn's girls have sex for money it is a restaurant, the where and how depends on the degree of reliability of the customer. the hole is good for occasional, the special for people who are trusted and who can prrmetterste it

it doesn't make sense that Burke's role ends at the scolarship, he should take all that trouble and risk for a single fuck?

 

[vogelbeest]

it doesn't make sense that Burke's role ends at the scolarship, he should take all that trouble and risk for a single fuck?

So it would make sense to pay for sex in a toilet with the same girl he gets to have sex with for free and on top he would be aware of the restaurant, a thing you yourself said is very risky? It's double the risks for nothing extra. MC gets served at parties, that option isn't there for Burke... And this all is only in the situation Burke is the one getting the sex, what if the sponsors are the lucky old men. You make a solid point with getting the scholarship for just one fuck, but we have no idea if it's a one timer or annual or each semester.... Whatever the deal is it can be arranged with the scholarship just as well.

 

[felicemastronzo]

So it would make sense to pay for sex in a toilet with the same girl he gets to have sex with for free and on top he would be aware of the restaurant, a thing you yourself said is very risky? It's double the risks for nothing extra. MC gets served at parties, that option isn't there for Burke... And this all is only in the situation Burke is the one getting the sex, what if the sponsors are the lucky old men. You make a solid point with getting the scholarship for just one fuck, but we have no idea if it's a one timer or annual or each semester.... Whatever the deal is it can be arranged with the scholarship just as well.

but you're fixated about the bathroom ...
if Burke is in the organization, why would he pay for it? he awards scholarships and in exchange he demands a certain amount of sexual services and maybe a financial return.

Burke does it for sex and for power, to think that he gets "dirty" for a quickie only the first time seems to me very forced, even worse to think that he does it without knowing what is behind it

 

[mindern]

Burke would be an idiot to give free scholarships away just to have sex with prostitutes, and that's what the Hots are(at least the ones working for Quinn) if Burke got wind of what Quinn was doing he could've just bought their services, no need to give away scholarships. And if they refused he could just threaten to blow the lid off Quinns operation.

Burke gets more from this than just sex. He sets up the scholarships with local businesses because it makes him seem important. He’s running this foundation and making media appearances. Jade goes on and on about how he’s a suck up and puts on airs. The news article about it explains how the program forges strong links between B&R (and by proxy Burke) and the financial industry. This scholarship program carries value for him beyond the girls he fucks.

My personal take? The prize here is the influence and connections to local businesses via the foundation. Not the girls. They’re just a way to lure donations in. Burke wants the scholarship program to integrate himself with the social elite and banging college girls is just a perk. Same for the guys making the donations. They’re not doing it for sex, they’re making donations for the same reason anyone does… publicity, tax write offs and influence. The college girls are again a bonus.

 

[vogelbeest]

but you're fixated about the bathroom ...
if Burke is in the organization, why would he pay for it? he awards scholarships and in exchange he demands a certain amount of sexual services and maybe a financial return.

Burke does it for sex and for power, to think that he gets "dirty" for a quickie only the first time seems to me very forced, even worse to think that he does it without knowing what is behind it

Lol, no you're fixated on the restaurant being the same thing as the free tuition deal. They have things in common but it's really 2 separate things, Burke does not need to know about the restaurant or it's services. He can simply get all with his free tuition deals. Sure some of the girls are the same, but Camilla is not in a free tuition deal, so not available. In the restaurant the girls get paid money, the free tuition is payment for sex in that deal. Whatever else Burke wants is a deal with the free tuition girl even if she is on the menu too... Why would Burke be in the restaurant organisation? Is he in on the drugs too? Quinn just has 3 scheme's running, only one with Burke....

 

[shazba]

Imagine if this whole restaurant and free tuition shit never actually gets explained...

DPC just leaves us hanging, like forever.