I have always talked to Ashley about Derek. I wonder if the scene with penny or the scene with M&J plays out differently if you don't. If Derek isn't going after her anymore he wouldn't really have a reason to be at the HOT's looking for her unless he still does it on his own.
Point of order: Bruce Lee gave us Jeet Kune Do.
The color of the ring is definitely not something that matters among any group that I know (there is actual swinger jewelry, however) - but wearing the ring around the thumb was often a quiet indicator that the wearer was homosexual. Just like men with an earring in the right ear (or both ears). It might not be universally so, but it's a common sign.
Not surprising, I suppose, that some groups might want to push for a 'group identity' via similar means, though. Now I feel like I need to go back through the various renders and see if anybody's wearing the common markers.
Is not even about getting a job would fix her problems, more so that getting a job will leave her with at least something to fall back to, after the inevitable showdown with her father. I mean, even if she gets the free tuition, her father will find out and that confrontation is coming no matter what. If they fight now she has nothing, its better to prepare, ratter than start doing something when you are on your ass on the streets.
Regardless I hope by the end of the 3rd season we are done with this weak ass plot, its dragging the entire story down, since its tied to every main plot and keeps Maya as the least liked LI since her development is zero, or has regressed since the start of the game.
I don't think you are seeing it from Maya's angle - she probably don't think "on the streets" is a possible outcome. I think, in her mind, she will either get the full tuition from somewhere, or has to break off with Josy. I don't recall she ever making any indication that she will drop out of the university to be with Josy, if her dad finds out and gives her an ultimatum. I could be wrong though.
On her not working, I actually think not working is the right idea - if they are at a location where $5,000 can largely cover a semester's tuition for a university, then that location likely won't pay much for a student part-timer. The paltry amount of money she can make from a part time job (not to mention the time investment to find/interview for a job) won't solve her problem.
It's much better for her to use that time to talk to the financial office at the school, school counselor, etc. to actually get to a solution to the problem. Her not doing that, well, is shitty writing.
Not having a single source of income is never the right idea. She is apparently in this situation because of that and just doing what she is told. Someone said that Derek automatically has more freedom in the family because he is a male but I don't think that is the case. Being who he is it's more likely that he just says fuck it and doesn't put up with it.
You would think that most people in that situation would be talking to the administration or something about her options. She is a co-signer on that contract, not an unwilling reciprocate, she has more say in it than she thinks. On a side note, if she is this naive and so easily manipulated then she doesn't really have any place in a social field. Especially if she would be giving advice to people that need help.
Why would he... do you really think that he gives a flying fuck about some pirates theorizing ? Is this some considerable volume by the way ? A handful of people pirates that somewhat keep up with the meat grinder called Dalli ?
why is there incest tag in this game on other sites? It seems to me that from the plot of the game the mc's father is a widow unless he has a sister...
why is there incest tag in this game on other sites? It seems to me that from the plot of the game the mc's father is a widow unless he has a sister...
Not having a single source of income is never the right idea. She is apparently in this situation because of that and just doing what she is told. Someone said that Derek automatically has more freedom in the family because he is a male but I don't think that is the case. Being who he is it's more likely that he just says fuck it and doesn't put up with it.
You would think that most people in that situation would be talking to the administration or something about her options. She is a co-signer on that contract, not an unwilling reciprocate, she has more say in it than she thinks. On a side note, if she is this naive and so easily manipulated then she doesn't really have any place in a social field. Especially if she would be giving advice to people that need help.
Derek doesn't have a job, does he? (He volunteered for some time but that does not give him money personally.) The dad gives Derek more freedom because he is not a homosexual (and maybe because Derek is male), it's just that simple.
And yeah, not talking to administration is dumb, but it's not Maya who's dumb, it's DPC's shitty writing. If one person tries to solve a problem on limited time on her own and fail to see a simple solution, we can chalk that up to dumb. If many people are collectively solving a problem on extended amount of time and no one sees the simple solution, it's shitty writing.
I've tried looking through this forum and steam forums but cant seem to find an answer so figured I just ask if someone could help me with this error I get upon trying to start the game.
I've never played this before so I have no save files or anything. Im trying to run the 0.8.2 full game for s1-s-2.
The season 3 interlude seems to start up fine but i cant even play it without a previous save so idk what to do, any help or point in the right direction is appreciated.
I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.
Before loading the script.
error: Error -5 while decompressing data: incomplete or truncated stream
-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------
Full traceback:
File "renpy/bootstrap.py", line 331, in bootstrap
renpy.main.main()
File "renpy/main.py", line 417, in main
renpy.loader.index_archives()
File "renpy/loader.py", line 244, in index_archives
index = handler.read_index(f)
File "renpy/loader.py", line 129, in read_index
index = loads(zlib.decompress(infile.read()))
error: Error -5 while decompressing data: incomplete or truncated stream
That is a decompression error. It looks like you are either trying to run it from inside the compressed archive or the program you used to extract it did do the job correctly. I don't know what platform you are on but 7zip has never given me any problems.
Derek doesn't have a job, does he? (He volunteered for some time but that does not give him money personally.) The dad gives Derek more freedom because he is not a homosexual (and maybe because Derek is male), it's just that simple.
And yeah, not talking to administration is dumb, but it's not Maya who's dumb, it's DPC's shitty writing. If one person tries to solve a problem on limited time on her own and fail to see a simple solution, we can chalk that up to dumb. If many people are collectively solving a problem on extended amount of time and no one sees the simple solution, it's shitty writing.
What some people seem to keep forgetting is that the time passed within the story is currently quite short; and most of the characters haven’t known about Maya’s problems for very long.
The mc's only known Maya for about 2 months, since they've only just sat their midterms, and he's only known about her dad's black mail for about half that time.
Since he's known, the mc has also been dealing with heaps of other shit, and hardly spent much time considering Maya's predicament (a huge amount of his time has been dealing with his own issues, like repairing the mansion and fucking as many girls as he can ).
Derek has known the longest, but he's not exactly reliable; he's definitely not someone we'd expect to be dispersing sound financial advice.
I'm not sure how long Josy's known about the blackmail for, but she's even complained that Maya isn't trying to solve her own problems. They've been fighting and bitching with each other half the time.
So even though we, the readers, have had ages to discuss the issue, the characters in the story have not.
To make matters worse, Maya had dreamed up her hairbrained scheme of joining the HOTs and having them pay for her tuition, so she put all her eggs into that basket, only to have it fall through. By then she'd pretty much wasted the first month of college without even considering other avenues for solving her situation.
Then after sulking and wasting more time, Maya is now relying on Sage trying to help her.
I wouldn't call this bad writing, I'd say it is Maya's fault for being dumb (she was deliberately written that way). She's been called out for it by Josy:
If anything, DPC has managed to characterise most of the prominent characters quite well. They have a few inconsistencies (proving they're not just computer programs... well actually... they are ), but on a whole each character is defined well enough that we come to expect certain behaviour from them.
So it's not shitty writing that in the stretch of roughly a couple of months, a handful of characters, who have been dealing with numerous distractions, haven't come to the rescue and solved all of Maya's problems yet.
Personally I find it quit perplexing that anyone can work their way through this game, pay full attention to everything it has to offer, and turn around and suggest the game has shitty writing.
Of course the game isn't perfect, but the detail, foreshadowing, dialogue, and direction are so far above most of the competitors here, I wonder where these critics are getting their reference for what good AVN writing is.
That is a decompression error. It looks like you are either trying to run it from inside the compressed archive or the program you used to extract it did do the job correctly. I don't know what platform you are on but 7zip has never given me any problems.
What some people seem to keep forgetting is that the time passed within the story is currently quite short; and most of the characters haven’t known about Maya’s problems for very long.
The mc's only known Maya for about 2 months, since they've only just sat their midterms, and he's only known about her dad's black mail for about half that time.
Since he's known, the mc has also been dealing with heaps of other shit, and hardly spent much time considering Maya's predicament (a huge amount of his time has been dealing with his own issues, like repairing the mansion and fucking as many girls as he can ).
Derek has known the longest, but he's not exactly reliable; he's definitely not someone we'd expect to be dispersing sound financial advice.
I'm not sure how long Josy's known about the blackmail for, but she's even complained that Maya isn't trying to solve her own problems. They've been fighting and bitching with each other half the time.
So even though we, the readers, have had ages to discuss the issue, the characters in the story have not.
To make matters worse, Maya had dreamed up her hairbrained scheme of joining the HOTs and having them pay for her tuition, so she put all her eggs into that basket, only to have it fall through. By then she'd pretty much wasted the first month of college without even considering other avenues for solving her situation.
Then after sulking and wasting more time, Maya is now relying on Sage trying to help her.
I wouldn't call this bad writing, I'd say it is Maya's fault for being dumb (she was deliberately written that way). She's been called out for it by Josy:
If anything, DPC has managed to characterise most of the prominent characters quite well. They have a few inconsistencies (proving they're not just computer programs... well actually... they are ), but on a whole each character is defined well enough that we come to expect certain behaviour from them.
So it's not shitty writing that in the stretch of roughly a couple of months, a handful of characters, who have been dealing with numerous distractions, haven't come to the rescue and solved all of Maya's problems yet.
Personally I find it quit perplexing that anyone can work their way through this game, pay full attention to everything it has to offer, and turn around and suggest the game has shitty writing.
Of course the game isn't perfect, but the detail, foreshadowing, dialogue, and direction are so far above most of the competitors here, I wonder where these critics are getting their reference for what good AVN writing is.
Look, you can keep defending DPC, but the crux of the matter is that 4 people (MC Maya Josy Sage), some of who (Sage) is proclaimed to be smart by someone who looks smart (Bella), have spent considerable amount of time trying to solve a problem, and no one even suggested that Maya go talk to the school financial office to understand her situation, before going to Sage's parents and asking them to cough up tens of thousands of dollars.
They don't need to solve the problem for her in that time frame. But if no one suggests during the entire month (per your timeframe above) that she should do the painfully obvious thing that can help, that's shitty writing.
On my "bad writing" critique, that really comes from two angles - one is that if the writing of the work is okay to good elsewhere, then the shitty part becomes obvious. I assume you can tell the potato is overcooked even if the steak is done right. Second, there are many, many, many AVNs that have great writing. Many of them are translated from Japanese - Ever 17, Baldr Sky, etc. (Japan has had an active AVN industry for 40 years) but even some on this site is pretty good, like Good Girl Gone Bad. That game is quite lacking in the graphic department, but the writing/branching/mechanics/player freedom is very advanced.