VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[AchedCroissant]

I hear some deviants think Jill doesn't look like a goblin

Simps

 

[Kellermann]

No, it's about blood relations. Tommy and Josy have zero blood relations. No cosanguinity, it's not incestuous.

You may feel differently, but if so, you are wrong. Nobody, however, is telling you that you have to like it, nor partake of it. One of the many benefits of freedom of choice. I hear some deviants think Jill doesn't look like a goblin, too.

It's all about those goblin teeth bro. A non-smiling, serious Jill is
She opens that sinister maw and it's like staring into the Great Pit of Carkoon.

I wish I could swap Jill/Bella's propensities to smile. Bella smile more and Jill smile less.

 

[lipe2410]

It's all about those goblin teeth bro. A non-smiling, serious Jill is
She opens that sinister maw and it's like staring into the Great Pit of Carkoon.

I wish I could swap Jill/Bella's propensities to smile. Bella smile more and Jill smile less.

The laugh is for your avatar

 

[ename144]

I love how some of you think human emotions are black and white. Yes, she understand, but it does not mean she is not disappointed that something she wanted didn't go the way she wanted. You can't judge her for this.
She like a guy, and that guy chose someone else over her. She would be more understandable if its actually a relative to MC , his father his mother , sister, brother. But in the end of the day its just an another bitch , and Jill at this point knew MC dating with others. And Sage is not dying, its just having a fucking flu.
so yeah Jill is selfish, so what? No One actually bother to see this from Jill perspective.
I get it that it might be a sudden shift in Jill personality, but its miles better, than her sudden shift, of believing Tybalt based on just his words.

Of course I can judge her for it; judging people by their actions is the only appropriate way to judge them. I'm not saying a she's a bad person because she has a character flaw, but I'm definitely saying she has a character flaw.

As was mentioned, the problem is precisely that Jill can only see this incident from her own point of view. She knows how important this picnic is - that she's defying Tybalt's ultimatum to give the MC the only gift she can give him AND that this is the best chance to left him down easily now that she's been 'forced' break things off with him. But she never stops to consider that the MC doesn't know any of that because she's refused to tell him all week! She never stops to consider that from the MC's point of view, Sage's mild cold is still a more immediate crisis than an impromptu date. She never thinks about how she'd feel if the MC bailed on her while she was sick to go on a spur-of-the moment date with some other girl.

And it's worth noting that the MC can tend to Sage even if he's not on her path. The basics of the Sage branch wouldn't really change if the MC had to tend to, say, Derek instead of Sage. So even the idea that Jill is jealous of Sage is, IMHO, fundamentally problematic because we know Jill's reaction doesn't actually hinge on the MC's actions. Jill is behaving like a paranoid girlfriend even as she refuses to tell the MC how important he is to her.

Once you see that, it's hard to ignore just how self-centered Jill is being here. Even if we accept that she's hopelessly naive rather than jealous, she still could have tried to reschedule with the MC once she had time to think things over. You'd think she'd *want* to give the MC another chance to prove himself (much as she rationalized a way to give him a first chance despite the ultimatum). But she never does. She goes from being borderline obsessed with the MC to writing him off for the rest of Season 2 (maybe more) in a single conversation. People rightly give Maya a lot of flak for her passivity, but Jill takes it to a whole new level.

Now personally, I prefer to chalk this up to lousy writing by DPC and either pretend the MC never knew Sage was sick (easy enough if you aren't on her path), or that Jill reschedules her picnic and events proceed otherwise unchanged. If we're lucky, Jill will behave more maturely in Season 3+ and we'll never need to dwell on what happens if you turn down the picnic. But at the risk of sounding like a broken record, the way DPC handled the crossroad and the return of Zoey don't fill me with optimism for how Jill will be handled going forward.

No, she didn't expect anything in return. Her expectation was to call things off, because in her mind, that's what was ultimately for the best. She was going to make the goodbye date as happy and as enjoyable for MC as possible to lessen the blow. If MC doesn't take her up on the offer, Jill takes this as a sign that it's just for the better that it ended that way. Is this naive? Absolutely. But that's her reasoning. Jill believes in destiny, signs, and all that. Naive as hell, but she absolutely expected to end things.

Deep down, I'm sure that part of her hoped that things might work out somehow, but it is simply innacurate to say that she expected MC to talk her out of her decision and win her back, or that she expected MC to climb her balcony and mimic her beloved sister in a surprising way, or that she expected MC to get on stage and save her. That's just asurd.

I'm not saying Jill intended the picnic as some sort of test of the MC. I'm saying Jill takes the MC declining her 'special' picnic as a sign that the relationship isn't meant to be.

As you say, Jill believes in destiny, but she takes it to something of an extreme. She not only isn't willing to fight for the MC's affection, she sees the adversity itself as an indication something is wrong with the romance. That's why she will never try to reschedule the picnic when the MC is busy, and why she nearly collapses in tears if Josy or Sage recognize the MC's... handiwork at Tybalt's presentation.

Don't forget that during the date with Jill, the MC tells her about his life, the death of his mother. They then share a fairly intimate, romantic moment for the rest of the day.

(if I'm not mistaken, this is also what happens with Sage)

In fact it's not really the fact that we go to see Sage that blocks the road with Jill. It's not her who reacts like a selfish bitch, it's rather the fact that by going to see Sage, you don't experience a romantic and intimate moment with Jill which brings the two very much closer together.

Reasoning in terms of game, by going with Sage, we lose the opportunity to earn XP with Jill, and in the end, we miss this XP to level up.

Well, if we're talking about the scene as it happened within the context of the game, see my answer above.

If we're talking about the scene beyond the context of the game (as I prefer to do), then I still think the scene is badly implemented because choosing Sage has no upside unless you've already written off Jill (in which case you may well not even get the choice). Choosing Sage terminates Jill's romance instantly. Choosing Jill costs 2 RPs with Sage (that have yet to do anything in the whole course of the game AFAIK), and forces you to watch the Sandy/Nicole threesome on a separate save.

Personally, I think this was just a bad job by DPC. He wanted the choice to add gameplay and to illustrate how 'tough' Jill's path was, but didn't really think about how Jill's actions would appear from the non-game perspective. As I've said before, Jill should have asked the MC out first before Sage asked for help (assuming you're on both paths). That makes the in-character decision more balanced, and provides a much better explanation for why Jill would take the MC's rejection (after he'd already committed) as a sign to move on from him.

I'm currently planning playthroughs for paths I missed out on on my first blind playthrough (making moves on Jill/Sage, because apparently I'm that clueless).

Any opinions on doing a Sage romance path starting at Ep. 7 only? How rushed/forced does it feel? I initially didn't want to be a fuckbuddy caught in the Chad drama. Meanwhile, I played through it once and while I still don't really need the sex scenes, the other additional scenes (guitar session in the garden, call during DIK party, MC opening up while taking care of her) were actually quite nice. I realise the fuckbuddy path makes sense from a buildup perspective and is probably the preferred way.

While searching this thread I learned there are differences in a dialogue scene with Sage (walk after lunch with Quinn), depending on whether you are Chick or Dik/Neutral path? I actually quite liked the Chick one, didn't see it before and prefer it over the other version. Can you say how many differences like that one are there in general?

I wouldn't say the non-fuck buddy path feels forced, but it sure as hell feels rushed. On the plus side, it avoids the terrible 'rebound guy' discussion early in Episode 7. But on the negative side, it's basically identical to the fuck buddy route the instant they kiss at the party. Maybe we'll see some variations in Season 3, but I'm not holding my breath.

I love the idea of giving MCs a chance at Sage without insisting she cheat on her boyfriend, but I don't think it was well executed. It needed more unique content both to make up for missing romantic moments (most obviously the guitar lesson in Episode 5), and to make this path feel distinct from the fuck buddy path. Treating them interchangeably cheapens both paths, IMHO.

 

[jak1165]

She opens that sinister maw and it's like staring into the Great Pit of Carkoon

 

[SSJGOD]

Does anyone know how many seasons of Being A Dik the Dev plans on creating?

 

[ChipLecsap]

Does anyone know how many seasons of Being A Dik the Dev plans on creating?

No. Episodes number, according to him is planned to be between 16-20, which can be 4 or 5 season.
But nothing is confirmed. Probably he does not know it himself either

 

[BigBlueDude]

I do however think Josy needs her own story rather than being dragged along in Maya’s drama.

YES! She really does need it! I'm unimpressed of her in her current state. She needs something going on story wise. Shes almost indistinguishable from a sidegirl with uncomplicated sex scenes in the story at this point. I really want some story out of her. Drama through the family ties with Tommy seems boring and thats more about Tommy than her. At least shes cute and shes joined at the hip with Maya but shes playing a support character in that one. Possibly some jealousy with Jill but thats more about Jills issues and not a Josys. Josy herself got nothing. Which is a shame. Cute as a button but nothing there.

Am I off base here? I dont particularly care about her due to her lack of plot, so the scenes shes in with the Maya plot stuff seems to have very little to do about Josy to me. Do you Josy admirers think she have a plot in the story thats her own and not just joined at the hip with Mayas shit? Is that why you like her, shes her own happy and sweet girl thats crushing hard on Fuckface, uncomplicated and without baggage? She had some a tiny bit of family talk in that date back in early season 1, I liked that.

I nurture a small hope that she will go nuts at Maya or Fuckface (or both) in this season. I'd think I'd like that, but that feels like it could get real complicated and branch the story too much.

 

[noobchan51515]

The mod IS causing your crash, and the work around is anoying.

Unren go there and download UnRen-v.0.11-old(2), unpack it into your BaDIK folder and run it, first choose option 1, click n, wait for it to finish. After its done, run it again, choose option 2 and wait for it to finish again.

Then go to BaDIK folder/game/season2/scripts/freeroam/episode8, open ep8_freeroam_diks_room.rpy with the text editor of your choice ( I suggest Notepad ++, its free ) find line 87 and 88, which are

if cheatcat2 != "":
$ renpy.quit()

Remove them, save the file, restart the game and it'll work.

If you want to continue using the mod, it might be a good idea to have 1 modded and 1 unmodded BaDIK folder, your savefiles are accessible by both, if you encouter a crash on your modded playthrough, switch to the unmodded one, load the save and try it there, it should work.

Alternatively stop using the mod alltogether. The problems it causes will amplify as the game branches more and more, and there are at least 8 more episodes coming.

thank you for your help and for being polite and helpful your awesome

 

[CursedJay]

I love the game and plot but tbh it looks more like a fantasy at this point than reality. In which world you can fuck almost every girl in college while

1) fooling around with an extremely strict librarian woman who happens to be teaching a class of yours in the future but decides to forget about all of that and comes back to life of pleasure after quite a few years,
2) date her shy virgin best friend, who is an adorable creature always lurking somewhere to help you (even endures tybault ffs(
3) be fuck buddies with a gem of a girl who can't even be described, like she is president of HOTs who's about to graduate, super hot obviously and on top of that is really smart too. So you have this girl falling for you too
4) 2 girls accept you in their relationship, allowing you to do whatever the fuck you want as well. You can date others all you want. And one of them was a lesbian until she met the you. Alright

Honorable mentions.
2 teachers want to fuck you, a mother working as a stripper thinks you are the most mature man she ever got to know and looks smitten with you, the other strippers want some of you too, in some free roams you can be pursuing all main LI and still fuck in every room with whatever hoe exists. Oh yeah let's not forget your best friend who comes back mostly for you (it's obvious).

Moreover this guy apparently has the biggest dick every chick ever saw in that college (even those chicks that get paid to fuck). How convenient. He also knows how to beat anyone that comes to him. Plays his guitar as a hobby but is so good that he saves Jill. And if everything else wasn't enough, guess what you are some kind of Vice President already because every other guy in that frat is useless but you turn them into hustlers. And yeah that super popular, hot and sexy president of the only sorority? She makes party plans with you now. Your dad finds shit for free that makes the mansion look 10 times better than Rusty's father's money. How convenient that in a span of a month (?) that happened. But the previous 18 years of your life he never came across any type of free furniture like that for his own house (not trying to mock them about their home, just stating the obvious). What else? You get paid to take notes for nerds? What? What?!?! LMAO. Derek is actually okay with you banging his sister and Josy, while he knows you are doing some side stuff as well. What?

Yeah yeah apparently MC could be some golden guy who is just irresistible and every female fights for him or at least would like to have him for as much as she can. But this guy? He is such a pussy man. We don't even get the option to uncover the prostitution operation to others. Like seriously the best you can do is just not take Quinn's offer, stay quiet and just tell Maya "she's evil"? Might as well accept the offer anyway, more sex.
Also a pussy with Zoey, could just transfer schools. Said he had a new bf when she actually didn't. I see Zoey acting as it was just sex with MC but she hasn't touched a single dick yet my MC is running low on sperm at this point while still having all 5 major paths open.
It's not like I don't like the game, I love it, it's probably the one I've liked the most. I would just like some more realistic stuff happening you know, like not being able to date and fuck around with 5 amazing girls and still have fuck loads of other chicks. That would be a start. And the massive chick or dik status wont cut it for me, I'd like the option to snitch on Quinn about prostitution. Like literally man you are banging their president and you open up to each other so much. Even taking care of her when she is sick. At least mention it to her man ffs.
Dear lord i fucked up. Too much writing. I wanted to keep on going but that's too much, im sorry for the essay lol

 

[Laport Deminis]

I love the game and plot but tbh it looks more like a fantasy at this point than reality. In which world you can fuck almost every girl in college while

1) fooling around with an extremely strict librarian woman who happens to be teaching a class of yours in the future but decides to forget about all of that and comes back to life of pleasure after quite a few years,
2) date her shy virgin best friend, who is an adorable creature always lurking somewhere to help you (even endures tybault ffs(
3) be fuck buddies with a gem of a girl who can't even be described, like she is president of HOTs who's about to graduate, super hot obviously and on top of that is really smart too. So you have this girl falling for you too
4) 2 girls accept you in their relationship, allowing you to do whatever the fuck you want as well. You can date others all you want. And one of them was a lesbian until she met the you. Alright

Honorable mentions.
2 teachers want to fuck you, a mother working as a stripper thinks you are the most mature man she ever got to know and looks smitten with you, the other strippers want some of you too, in some free roams you can be pursuing all main LI and still fuck in every room with whatever hoe exists. Oh yeah let's not forget your best friend who comes back mostly for you (it's obvious).

Moreover this guy apparently has the biggest dick every chick ever saw in that college (even those chicks that get paid to fuck). How convenient. He also knows how to beat anyone that comes to him. Plays his guitar as a hobby but is so good that he saves Jill. And if everything else wasn't enough, guess what you are some kind of Vice President already because every other guy in that frat is useless but you turn them into hustlers. And yeah that super popular, hot and sexy president of the only sorority? She makes party plans with you now. Your dad finds shit for free that makes the mansion look 10 times better than Rusty's father's money. How convenient that in a span of a month (?) that happened. But the previous 18 years of your life he never came across any type of free furniture like that for his own house (not trying to mock them about their home, just stating the obvious). What else? You get paid to take notes for nerds? What? What?!?! LMAO. Derek is actually okay with you banging his sister and Josy, while he knows you are doing some side stuff as well. What?

Yeah yeah apparently MC could be some golden guy who is just irresistible and every female fights for him or at least would like to have him for as much as she can. But this guy? He is such a pussy man. We don't even get the option to uncover the prostitution operation to others. Like seriously the best you can do is just not take Quinn's offer, stay quiet and just tell Maya "she's evil"? Might as well accept the offer anyway, more sex.
Also a pussy with Zoey, could just transfer schools. Said he had a new bf when she actually didn't. I see Zoey acting as it was just sex with MC but she hasn't touched a single dick yet my MC is running low on sperm at this point while still having all 5 major paths open.
It's not like I don't like the game, I love it, it's probably the one I've liked the most. I would just like some more realistic stuff happening you know, like not being able to date and fuck around with 5 amazing girls and still have fuck loads of other chicks. That would be a start. And the massive chick or dik status wont cut it for me, I'd like the option to snitch on Quinn about prostitution. Like literally man you are banging their president and you open up to each other so much. Even taking care of her when she is sick. At least mention it to her man ffs.
Dear lord i fucked up. Too much writing. I wanted to keep on going but that's too much, im sorry for the essay lol

Yeah, you know... porn.

 

[RonWeasleyJr]

I'm glad that in Episode 8, DPC pulled back on Sage calling MC "Tiger."

It just steers her too far into "Mary Jane Watson Expy" for my taste, and is pretty cliche.

 

[Walter Victor]

I'm not quite sure what you're trying to communicate here. Yes, being her guitar teacher and telling her you want more than to teach her guitar are steps on her path. My understanding is that there are other points that you can get on her path as well. I'm not sure what the relevance is here, though. Are you saying that you can be on the Sage path without actually being her fuck buddy? Because you're not actually saying that, but possibly trying to imply it?

I'm trying to tell you how you get the chance to call Sage in the Episode 6 free roam, which was what I was responding to.

You might be confusing being on Sage's path with the actual variable pathSage.

And I'm not saying that I'm skeptical that you've exhaustively gone over the code and confirmed such a thing, but... well yeah, I am saying that I'm skeptical that you did that.

Well allow me to provide the evidence that I actually looked up and found:
From game/season2/scripts/episode5/header_ep5.rpy

default pathSage = False
if not rejectedSage and ep2SageGuitarTeacher:
    $ pathSage = True

From game/update2.rpy

scene ep2_sage_train1b with dissolve
if dtype > 0:
    $ RPsage += 1
    mc "So, you want me to be your {i}teacher{/i}?"
    scene ep2_sage_train30 with dissolve
    sa "Haha, not in a naughty way."
elif True:
    mc "So, you want me to be your teacher?"
    scene ep2_sage_train3 with dissolve
    sa "Yeah, if you want to."
scene ep2_sage_train33 with dissolve
menu:
    "Yes" if True:
        $ ep2SageGuitarTeacher = True
        $ RPsage += 1
        mc "Sure."

From game/scripts/episode3/header_ep3.rpy

default rejectedSage = False

From game/update3.rpy

scene ep3_sage_guitar22 with dissolve
sa "I remember you doing this to me last time."
scene ep3_sage_guitar23 with dissolve
mc "Yeah..."
mc "But you know...it was for teaching purposes."
if ep2QuinnSawYouAndSage:
    scene ep3_sage_guitar22 with dissolve
    sa "Not only..."
    scene ep3_sage_guitar23 with dissolve
    mc "I admit, it was a way to get closer to you as well."
elif True:
    scene ep3_sage_guitar24 with dissolve
    sa "Only for teaching purposes?"
    scene ep3_sage_guitar23 with dissolve
    menu:
        "Yes" if not _in_replay:
            $ rejectedSage = True
            mc "Yeah."
            scene ep3_sage_guitar24 with dissolve
            sa "All right..."
            $ bios_history_sage += "I told Sage that I only wanted to teach her to play guitar. She didn't like that.\n\n"
            $ bios_name_sage = True
            $ chat_new_bios = True
            jump ep3_rejectedSageLabel
        "No" if True:
            $ rejectedSage = False
            mc "Well...no. It was a way to get closer to you, too."

And, at long last,
From game/season2/scripts/freeroam/episode6/ep6_freeroam_diks3.rpy

    $ phone_call_enabled = False
    hide screen phone_screen
    $ firstTimeFreeRoam = False
    show white_screen with dissolve
    $ current_task = ""
    if pathSage and pathMayaJosy:
        $ task_list = ["Talk to Rusty","Talk to Jacob","Go to Derek's room","Talk to Jamie","Talk to Nick","Call Sage","Call Josy and Maya"]
    elif pathSage:
        $ task_list = ["Talk to Rusty","Talk to Jacob","Go to Derek's room","Talk to Jamie","Talk to Nick","Call Sage"]
    elif pathMayaJosy:
        $ task_list = ["Talk to Rusty","Talk to Jacob","Go to Derek's room","Talk to Jamie","Talk to Nick","Call Josy and Maya"]
    elif True:
        $ task_list = ["Talk to Rusty","Talk to Jacob","Go to Derek's room","Talk to Jamie","Talk to Nick"]
    $ updateTaskList()
    $ chat_new_tasks = True
    show text "{font=collegiate.ttf}{size=+40}{color=#fe961b}Task:{/color} Complete the tasks in the Tasks app.{/size}{/font}":

The walkthrough isn't saying you have a choice of being on the Sage path or not during the Free Roam in Episode 6. It's stating that, if you're not on a Sage path, don't call her if you're interested in dating Jill.

And, again, I don't give a damn what the walkthrough says. The text doesn't lie.

 

[sageproduct]

YES! She really does need it! I'm unimpressed of her in her current state. She needs something going on story wise. Shes almost indistinguishable from a sidegirl with uncomplicated sex scenes in the story at this point. I really want some story out of her. Drama through the family ties with Tommy seems boring and thats more about Tommy than her. At least shes cute and shes joined at the hip with Maya but shes playing a support character in that one. Possibly some jealousy with Jill but thats more about Jills issues and not a Josys. Josy herself got nothing. Which is a shame. Cute as a button but nothing there.

Am I off base here? I dont particularly care about her due to her lack of plot, so the scenes shes in with the Maya plot stuff seems to have very little to do about Josy to me. Do you Josy admirers think she have a plot in the story thats her own and not just joined at the hip with Mayas shit? Is that why you like her, shes her own happy and sweet girl thats crushing hard on Fuckface, uncomplicated and without baggage? She had some a tiny bit of family talk in that date back in early season 1, I liked that.

I nurture a small hope that she will go nuts at Maya or Fuckface (or both) in this season. I'd think I'd like that, but that feels like it could get real complicated and branch the story too much.

Hmm, I don't really have a problem with it. While we've been through a lot with Josy, it's kind of hard to remember at times that Tremolo really only barely knows her as they only went out twice, briefly.

The development with Josy, while not dramatic, has a pleasant feel of getting to know someone and getting closer together. We might be more accustomed to narratives of intense bonding through intense situations, but I don't feel bored at all with Josy.

 

[sageproduct]

I love the game and plot but tbh it looks more like a fantasy at this point than reality. In which world you can fuck almost every girl in college while

1) fooling around with an extremely strict librarian woman who happens to be teaching a class of yours in the future but decides to forget about all of that and comes back to life of pleasure after quite a few years,
2) date her shy virgin best friend, who is an adorable creature always lurking somewhere to help you (even endures tybault ffs(
3) be fuck buddies with a gem of a girl who can't even be described, like she is president of HOTs who's about to graduate, super hot obviously and on top of that is really smart too. So you have this girl falling for you too
4) 2 girls accept you in their relationship, allowing you to do whatever the fuck you want as well. You can date others all you want. And one of them was a lesbian until she met the you. Alright

Honorable mentions.
2 teachers want to fuck you, a mother working as a stripper thinks you are the most mature man she ever got to know and looks smitten with you, the other strippers want some of you too, in some free roams you can be pursuing all main LI and still fuck in every room with whatever hoe exists. Oh yeah let's not forget your best friend who comes back mostly for you (it's obvious).

Moreover this guy apparently has the biggest dick every chick ever saw in that college (even those chicks that get paid to fuck). How convenient. He also knows how to beat anyone that comes to him. Plays his guitar as a hobby but is so good that he saves Jill. And if everything else wasn't enough, guess what you are some kind of Vice President already because every other guy in that frat is useless but you turn them into hustlers. And yeah that super popular, hot and sexy president of the only sorority? She makes party plans with you now. Your dad finds shit for free that makes the mansion look 10 times better than Rusty's father's money. How convenient that in a span of a month (?) that happened. But the previous 18 years of your life he never came across any type of free furniture like that for his own house (not trying to mock them about their home, just stating the obvious). What else? You get paid to take notes for nerds? What? What?!?! LMAO. Derek is actually okay with you banging his sister and Josy, while he knows you are doing some side stuff as well. What?

Yeah yeah apparently MC could be some golden guy who is just irresistible and every female fights for him or at least would like to have him for as much as she can. But this guy? He is such a pussy man. We don't even get the option to uncover the prostitution operation to others. Like seriously the best you can do is just not take Quinn's offer, stay quiet and just tell Maya "she's evil"? Might as well accept the offer anyway, more sex.
Also a pussy with Zoey, could just transfer schools. Said he had a new bf when she actually didn't. I see Zoey acting as it was just sex with MC but she hasn't touched a single dick yet my MC is running low on sperm at this point while still having all 5 major paths open.
It's not like I don't like the game, I love it, it's probably the one I've liked the most. I would just like some more realistic stuff happening you know, like not being able to date and fuck around with 5 amazing girls and still have fuck loads of other chicks. That would be a start. And the massive chick or dik status wont cut it for me, I'd like the option to snitch on Quinn about prostitution. Like literally man you are banging their president and you open up to each other so much. Even taking care of her when she is sick. At least mention it to her man ffs.
Dear lord i fucked up. Too much writing. I wanted to keep on going but that's too much, im sorry for the essay lol

Hmm...I don't find the game too unrealistic, other than the "high drama" things involved such as prostitution and family ties all wrapped together. Some college aged young men do live like this.

Plus, the main routes have plenty of conflict with each other.

 

[Ilhares]

Oh, the lemon one. Is the failed syntax the result of dumbass tattoo artist using google translate, or on purpose, Riley being the true philosopher and life mentor here. so many questions...

Actually, the lemon one isn't bad at all. I sent a screencap of it to a friend of mine who lives in Singapore and asked him to translate it for me. He said it roughly came back as "If someone gives you fruit, make juice", so she's more or less on the money with what she intended. I actually meant her shoulder piece. There's something about it I can't place, but whenever it's on screen I have to look at it. The characters running down her spine certainly don't hurt, either. Gives the eyes yet another reason to follow the trail.

I just wish I actually enjoyed looking at her after knowing some of the things she's done in her past.
I find it difficult to appreciate any self-admitted rapist, regardless of how enthusiastic they are.

I like the racoon analogy; some people like racoons, fewer when these creatures bare their teeth

There is that, but it seems like after a few episodes he toned the makeup down a little so it wasn't quite as bad.

I found the "resting bitch face", how some might describe Bella's usual facial expression, endearing. plus, by contrast, it made the less usual smiling more disarming

I love the way Bella looks most of the time, smiling or not. She's got a face that pleases me. Well, frankly, a lot of them do - I'm just not hyper-keen on really pale women most of the time, a little color is healthier looking to my eyes.

Not that it won't stop me from exploring all the glorious lewdness that DPC keeps offering us. Except Madame. Egad, no. I'd invite Elena over before her. She's more like "one of the guys" than some of the guys in the house. I'd take her out as a wingman rather than Nick, Jamie, or even Jacob.

 

[felicemastronzo]

I wonder if it’s all that crucial yet.

Remember you could have rejected and ignored Sage at every turn and then hook up with her for the first time in episode 7.

We’re only at the half way mark, so who’s to say we won’t get a second shot at any of the girls?

Although, the fact that the mc breaks his date with Bella and tells Sage he just wants to be friends does put a downer on things even if you’re not ready to choose.

What happened to the “not sure yet, I’ll get to know them a bit better and then make my decision” option?

most likely nothing is final yet, otherwise half the game would become a path where you can only lose something.

the possibility to rejoin Sage's path, however, has been a surprise for now, as well as the possibility to voluntarily get out of the story with Jill. i believe that there will be other moments like that, but until we see them they are valid as the solo routes of Maya and Josy

 

[NewTricks]

most likely nothing is final yet, otherwise half the game would become a path where you can only lose something.

the possibility to rejoin Sage's path, however, has been a surprise for now, as well as the possibility to voluntarily get out of the story with Jill. i believe that there will be other moments like that, but until we see them they are valid as the solo routes of Maya and Josy

I kinda agree with this. The protagonist deciding he needs to be monogamous and not telling any of his various partners except Sage and sometimes Jade seems like a somewhat non-binding agreement.

 

[dalli_x]

2. Tommy/Josy angle? Yep. Josy might not like him, but I would not be remotely surprised if he's got wood for her. This is cursed by him having had to live with her, so she probably got on his nerves all the time, so if it were to happen at this point it would probably just be a really cathartic hate fuck if it happened, and they'd both loosen up a little after, even if they never touched each other again.

Re 2: I've thought of that as well. But it's unlikely, given Tommy's reaction in EP4's Pink Rose.

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It's much more likely that Tommy wants something from Maya. In EP5, we learn that Maya met Tommy and Monica when she visited Josy. Maya says so herself. Derek didn't know Tommy before and only learns through the MC that Tommy is Josy's devilish brother. Tommy, for his part, is startled when Derek mentions that Maya is his sister. What if Tommy has a secret crush on Maya?

The interesting thing, though, is that Derek never wanted anything from Josy for two reasons. She talks too much and his sister Maya had a crush on Josy. But something like that wouldn't stop Tommy from having a crush on Maya. But first, he has to end Josy and Maya's relationship. So he informs Patrick about Josy and Maya's relationship before college and ends EP6. Yes, Tommy might know because Maya was visiting Josy and when he went to Josy's room to sniff nail polish again, he might have surprised Josy and Maya. Actually the same thing that happened to the MC in EP8 when he saw Chad and Troy.

The reason Tommy didn't want Josy to go to the HOTs is this, in my opinion. Josy ratted Tommy out to his mother Monica when Tommy was high on Josy's nail polish. If Josy is now in HOT's, Josy might find out that Tommy is doing drugs and in turn tell Tommy's mother Monica. The joke of the story is that Josy might have told Sage in EP7 and Sage is not Cool when it comes to drugs.

 

[sixart]

And, again, I don't give a damn what the walkthrough says. The text doesn't lie.

With that intel folks will get feeling though it's quite logical... so let the confusion begin
Hooo-weeeee !