VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[sixart]

It is, except what you've quoted also shows you're using the walkthrough cheat mod, so anticipate trouble with any of those exported saves as season 3 moves forward.

No no no no no... do NOT anticipate it ! Let it be a surprise !!! Also I fail to see any new intel in this...

 

[TimHawk]

It is, except what you've quoted also shows you're using the walkthrough cheat mod, so anticipate trouble with any of those exported saves as season 3 moves forward.

It's my own mod, just for me. I have 2 folders, one untouched and one where I play around with shit, but thank you for the advise nonetheless, its good advise.

Edited it to no mod, so others wont get confused.

 

[shazba]

For those whining about the timing of Zoey's return ()...

Seriously, this game revels in two things:

1. Awesome characters
2. Melodrama

So, we've already established how awesome Zoey is (this is not up for debate!)

Now how do we rachet up the drama..?

Bingo!
(and I mean "bingo" as in "eureka!", so fuck off Tommy with all your granny jokes... I was gonna go with "Huzzah!" to put in a DnG reference, but I don't think you guys are up to it )

 

[DarkDaemonX]

I actually think the crossroads choice came way too early, especially if it's true we're only at the halfway point now, or even less than that. Forcing us to make such a big choice already really limits the scenes we can get from this point onwards, unless we start cheating, which I don't see my massive chick MC doing.

And forcing us to make that choice right before Zoey comes back is an even bigger "fuck you".

 

[DarkDaemonX]

So, we've already established how awesome Zoey is (this is not up for debate!)

Zoey instantly jumped to best girl level (I made her a chick instead of a dik)

 

[shazba]

I actually think the crossroads choice came way too early, especially if it's true we're only at the halfway point now, or even less than that. Forcing us to make such a big choice already really limits the scenes we can get from this point onwards, unless we start cheating, which I don't see my massive chick MC doing.

And forcing us to make that choice right before Zoey comes back is an even bigger "fuck you".

You gotta stop analysing this as a AVN where it's all about fucking as many girls as possible.

It's a story, and in this story the mc grew a pair of balls (ask Zoey, they used to be tiny, she even wrote a song about it) right after he started college. He started forming a bunch of relationships, then decided he was gonna hurt some people if he continued that way, so he made a decision, chose one girl and tried to make a go of it.

Then his "ex" (but not really his ex because they didn't officially break up, nor did they officially have a relationship in the first place, but they might have...) returns at the worst possible time, confusion and jealousy ensues, the mc has a great time at a Halloween party, goes on to have an awesome Spring Break, does some other shit and then he graduates with honours and goes back to help his dad because, "family". I just gave DPC a call, he told me that was how it would end, but bear in mind he has lied to me before...

Anyway, the decision to choose one girl at this point in time is part of the story. The game is likely to become more story driven for the second half, so this new story arc will happen along with whomever the mc chose to be with. It's only "too soon" if your goal was to just have the mc fuck his way through college, but there's a lot more to this game than that.

All that said, my mc is on the "others" path. He intends to fuck his way through college.

 

[BigBlueDude]

I actually think the crossroads choice came way too early, especially if it's true we're only at the halfway point now, or even less than that. Forcing us to make such a big choice already really limits the scenes we can get from this point onwards, unless we start cheating, which I don't see my massive chick MC doing.

And forcing us to make that choice right before Zoey comes back is an even bigger "fuck you".

I dont think the crossroads choice is too early, i think that many people place too much weight on it instead of what it is. 8 to 12 episodes to go and the expectation seems to be "lovey dovey adventures with your one and only LI for 8+ episodes"? Doesn't make a lick of sense to me, narratively nor gameplaywise with how the game have progressed so far.

I think and hope its not a hard crossroads at all, far more likely a... pruning/sculpting of the branching going on. A temporary focusing to make development for DCP manageable for the upcoming season and beyond.

 

[den_tiger]

I find MC to be quite hot. As a chick I would totally do him.

There are actually women who play AVNs? looks like I made a wrong choice somewhere. can I reload?

And funny enough, I had a friend who looks like the MC. Chick were always after him. Mostly single moms. Go figure.

 

[sorco2003]

You gotta stop analysing this as a AVN where it's all about fucking as many girls as possible.

It's a story, and in this story the mc grew a pair of balls (ask Zoey, they used to be tiny, she even wrote a song about it) right after he started college. He started forming a bunch of relationships, then decided he was gonna hurt some people if he continued that way, so he made a decision, chose one girl and tried to make a go of it.

Then his "ex" (but not really his ex because they didn't officially break up, nor did they officially have a relationship in the first place, but they might have...) returns at the worst possible time, confusion and jealousy ensues, the mc has a great time at a Halloween party, goes on to have an awesome Spring Break, does some other shit and then he graduates with honours and goes back to help his dad because, "family". I just gave DPC a call, he told me that was how it would end, but bear in mind he has lied to me before...

Anyway, the decision to choose one girl at this point in time is part of the story. The game is likely to become more story driven for the second half, so this new story arc will happen along with whomever the mc chose to be with. It's only "too soon" if your goal was to just have the mc fuck his way through college, but there's a lot more to this game than that.

All that said, my mc is on the "others" path. He intends to fuck his way through college.

To me the choice seemed rushed, and not because I wanted to keep chasing them all, my run is only M&J and Sage, but I was expecting something more organic, more carried by the story, my MC in the embrace only saw M&J as the desired ones, but still the thought was "I was with everyone", and from there to the philosophy breakfast, without stops...
There were better ways to realize with whom I wanted to officialize, especially in the runs where you only pursue a LI, it was very strange.
The rest, I agree, sounds to me like it's going to be more story driven, from now on, and Zoey is going to become the X-factor.

 

[den_tiger]

Bro, by total accident, while looking smth up to reply to Walter, I found this :

"Others" if not pathMayaJosy and not (pathJill and not (not ep7_jill_lewd or affinity == "DIK" or ep8_jill_state == 0)):
        label ep8_alone_label:
        $ branchAlone = True
        if ep5_feelingsForMaya:
            mc "(I still have feelings for Maya, but since that's not an option...)"
        elif ep5_feelingsForJosy:
            mc "(I still have feelings for Josy, but since that's not an option...)"

Did you know it's used in the Ep08 decision conclusion ? Cuz I sure didnt.

where did you get the code? I would really like to look at the codes for some scenes to see what affects the gym handholding and the Maya Ep8 scene.

 

[den_tiger]

Technically, I don't think you can select Jill at the crossroads if you didn't go on the picnic with her. So she won't turn you down to your face. She'll just mutter some passive-aggressive comments about how things could be different if only you cared about her enough to pick up her slack and notice all the hints she's been hiding from you.



It really depends on what you want out of the game. The fuck buddy path obviously gives a lot more lewd time with Sage, and it generally has a much better build up of the intimacy between them, particularly with the extended scene of the MC nursing her back to health in Episode 6. But the price for that is that technically you are cheating and (more importantly) it's really hard to overstate how *stupid* the Rebound Guy speech is.

The friendship path avoids the cheating and the MC's temporary bout of insanity, which is good. And IMHO the game does a very nice job kindling a platonic friendship between them in Episodes 5 and 6. The downside here is that the platonic friendship is suddenly forced onto the exact same path as the fuck buddy relationship during the HOT party, and it just wasn't quite ready for that yet.

So to sum up: the fuck buddy path has higher overall quality but hits some disastrous lows, whereas the friendship path is more consistent but a bit underwhelming in comparison. Personally I went with the friendship path when I finally replayed the game for my Sage path just prior to Episode 8, but then I'm about as far on the CHICK side as you're likely to find in this thread so YMMV.



I expected DPC to throw us some curveballs, but I figured he'd at least let us get into the batter's box first. We haven't even informed M&J yet and we've already had to sit through the Interlude!



Actually, there is one forced relationship in the game and by a funny coincidence, it's with Zoey in flashbacks.

But to be serious, I agree we're not going to be forced to cheat with Zoey. But while DPC has never forced the (contemporary) MC to pursue a girl, he sure has forced him to stop pursing girls temporarily - most obviously in Episode 4, and the resolution to the Maya/Josy crisis is not exactly the highwater mark of the game. Rather the opposite.

So I think it's entirely fair to worry about just what Zoey is going to do to the narrative.



I'm not sure what you're asking about. If you mean the scene where she confronts Chad about cheating on him (assuming you told her about Troy), AFAICT the game only cares if you're on her path. Even if you waited until Episode 7 to hook up with her (i.e. after Chad dumped her), she'll still say she cheated on him. Whereas if you aren't on her path at all, she'll only say she tried to cheat on him.

I do think the game stores the variables necessary to tell the difference (her Bio entry will say you didn't kiss her during the music lesson, for example). But so far the actual onscreen relationship is the same regardless of how you got there, which is disappointing.



I'm not sure how many people were really calling for more branching, much less how many of those are the ones currently whining about Zoey.

But speaking as someone who DID want more branching and has done more than my fair share of whining about Zoey, I can say that my concern is all about the timing. The point of more branching is to reflect how much of a difference our choices make to the outcome of the game. Adding Zoey into the mix on all branches when the ink hasn't even dried on the new relationships (indeed, it hasn't even been put to paper for M&J) screams of short-circuiting the very branches I wanted to see in action. What difference does my branch make if the MC spends most of his time worrying about Zoey?

I will be very happy to be proven wrong, but the time and effort spent on Zoey in the Interlude (without actually establishing just what she wants from the MC going forward) do nothing but reinforce my fears.



Actually, he doesn't inform Jill if he chooses someone else, either (hence the infamous scene where she sees him fucking Bella). So that's a solid 60% of the LIs the MC can't inform when he 'dumps' them. Great follow through on that crossroads.


I agree it should be an episode or two before the MC is ready to discard his "big decision." Then again, I'd have argued we should wait an episode after the big party in Episode 7 before we got the next one; instead we not only got a bigger party in Episode 8, we're getting the Halloween party in Episode 9. And as I've said too many times, we're stuck catching up on Zoey's background before we've even finished picking a girl. So you'll forgive me if I have less than lively faith in DPC's sense of timing.

Yikes. A rejection at the end of season 1 and another rejection at the send of season 2 -- poor MC. Funny enough, for each rejection, a DIK affinity is one of the conditions for rejection.

 

[den_tiger]

I think, since the MC does inform Bella if you choose Jill, the canon of why the MC wont tell Jill ( the real reason is Jill walking in on them ofc ), is that the MC isnt sure yet if Bella will actually go for it. They do have some shit to sort out and the MC 'only' expects a meal and a convo, he didnt know he would get a Bella-Burger at that point.

No, I think he was just too busy fucking Bella and didn't have time to call or tell her in person? It's unlike Jade where you can reject via text. You can't do that to poor Jill.

 

[sixart]

All that said, my mc is on the "others" path. He intends to fuck his way through college.

You dirty little devil...

AVN where it's all about fucking as many girls as possible.

This is getting really old... every single one that comes up with " too early " instead of " too late " does not know shit about human connections... and uses this VN as fap material only... which is best if there is a ton of content... which comes if you fuck every living breathing thing that walks around the Earth Realistic huh ?

the expectation seems to be "lovey dovey adventures with your one and only LI for 8+ episodes"? Doesn't make a lick of sense to me, narratively nor gameplaywise with how the game have progressed so far.

This goes as a given... maybe if we consider the fools The whole game is a well set up shitstorm on course... it does not matter which road you take... the story changes accordingly though but lovey dovey ?... it will be more and more complicated so ( Zoey already arrived... ) that's something fundamentally wrong if one comes to that expectation... or never read through a VN ( may it be porn ) let alone ignores that drama factor...

 

[lipe2410]

To me the choice seemed rushed, and not because I wanted to keep chasing them all, my run is only M&J and Sage, but I was expecting something more organic, more carried by the story, my MC in the embrace only saw M&J as the desired ones, but still the thought was "I was with everyone", and from there to the philosophy breakfast, without stops...
There were better ways to realize with whom I wanted to officialize, especially in the runs where you only pursue a LI, it was very strange.
The rest, I agree, sounds to me like it's going to be more story driven, from now on, and Zoey is going to become the X-factor.

I reckon you. I already wondered if it wouldn't be possible (and maybe better) to do something like the game check what was the path the player most engaged and who LI the player collect most RP points and this way make the MC decide, with no choice avaiable, whom LI he wants commit, and if he didn't engage in any LI path he will be automatically to others branch. But i'm a noob in this things so have no clue if will be possible design the game this way.

 

[TimHawk]

where did you get the code? I would really like to look at the codes for some scenes to see what affects the gym handholding and the Maya Ep8 scene.

Well first make a copy of your BaDIK folder, should always have an vanilla one, so you dont mess things up and have to redownload the game.

Then you'll need Unren , version Unren-v.0.11-old(v2) works, I have not yet checked the other version. So download that one, unzip it and put it into your BaDIK main folder.

Run it, choose option 1, press N, wait for it to finish, close it, run it again and choose option 2, wait again and then you can close it.

After that you'll have 2 versions of every script, a compiled *.rpyc and a decompiled *.rpy. The *.rpy files are clear text, so you can read them.

 

[Green Isosceles]

yes, what Ilhares wrote. picking up lube again and new experience was implying Maya. last one is dancing vixen with her tits bared; you could also imagine her as ginger vixen or even Carolyn (who was too busy sucking dick to notice you peeping, or maybe she did get a glimpse) if you like, it doesn't matter, I was hoping they come as a bundle since I lost confidence in DPC giving Carolyn special treatment.

when you got your hope up too high, too eager to become delusional

Heather: if you were in relationship with me, would you give me your jacket?
My MC: (chose) of course. I wouldn't want you to get cold. (in your face, Tommy )
Heather: See!
Tommy: What are you doing?

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(Me: Yeah, keep asking yourself that )

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The Joke option there is one of the funniest lines in the game, I pick it every time.

 

[lipe2410]

(Me: Yeah, keep asking yourself that )

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8 episodes and you still didn't learn that this bitch Heather get wet when we treat her badly?

 

[BigBlueDude]

This goes as a given... maybe if we consider the fools The whole game is a well set up shitstorm on course... it does not matter which road you take... the story changes accordingly though but lovey dovey ?... it will be more and more complicated so ( Zoey already arrived... ) that's something fundamentally wrong if one comes to that expectation... or never read through a VN ( may it be porn ) let alone ignores that drama factor...

Lovey dovey is my own thought about the amount of fans whos on a single path to avoid issues and dramas so they can be in love with their one an only LI. I might be off base here but doesn't it maybe seem like these people are the most hung up about the crossroad and its perceived importance for their chosen LI? (on a sidenote Also these fans appears to be the most upset at Zoey/Interlude. They don't want the drama nor the competition with their chosen LI and Zoey represent trouble in paradise for them. They want their lovey dovey shit)

Who wouldn't pilfer from multiple cookie jars if they were not in a commited relationship and were presented the chance?! MC would (and should, imo) be with several and in fact be caught with his hand in each cookie jar! Makes for a way better story that way. Doesn't have to be full on manwhore levels of drama but at least some of it!

 

[Ilhares]

Who wouldn't pilfer from multiple cookie jars if they were not in a commited relationship and were presented the chance?!

It's not pilfering, those cookies were given freely.

 

[den_tiger]

Well first make a copy of your BaDIK folder, should always have an vanilla one, so you dont mess things up and have to redownload the game.

Then you'll need Unren , version Unren-v.0.11-old(v2) works, I have not yet checked the other version. So download that one, unzip it and put it into your BaDIK main folder.

Run it, choose option 1, press N, wait for it to finish, close it, run it again and choose option 2, wait again and then you can close it.

After that you'll have 2 versions of every script, a compiled *.rpyc and a decompiled *.rpy. The *.rpy files are clear text, so you can read them.

Seems like it's windows only.