VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[Kellermann]

I don't think there's any beef of any sort here. I know College Kings has a major beef, since they're a poor imitation.

I see General above mentioned AOA Academy, but I have no idea why, as I've played that game and the two of them honestly feel nothing alike whatsoever, so I can't imagine why anyone would give a shit.

Life in SC is the biggest offender. They straight up rip code right out of BaDIK. The phone graphics/mechanics are an exact match and they even use some of the same background songs. The big difference is the dialogue writing. This is where DPC shines and other devs fall painfully short. I'm not saying DPC (who certainly has issues with his story logic and over-reliance on drama) is the second coming of Tarantino or anything like that, but the man knows how to write a scene with engaging conversation.

Aside from the lewds, I think character dialogue interaction may be my favourite part of the game. I don't know how, but DPC can always make an interesting scene out of two people just sitting in a room talking. If he could ease back from the spiderweb plot dramas and clean up some of the logic issues, then the sky is the limit.

 

[Oliver Wendell Homely]

It's nothing to do with the devs, it's the f95 moderators who bar mention of other games in reviews, because it's against the review rules?

Thanks. Yes, that is true, but I'm not sure that's the only reason. All I know is I've seen BaDIK singled out by name as the "game that shall not be mentioned." Given that it's the most popular, I guess that might be expected.

 

[LizaS]

It's nothing to do with the devs, it's the f95 moderators who bar mention of other games in reviews, because it's against the review rules?

Thanks. Yes, that is true, but I'm not sure that's the only reason. All I know is I've seen BaDIK singled out by name as the "game that shall not be mentioned." Given that it's the most popular, I guess that might be expected.

Thing is, the comparison with BaDIK is so widespread, I saw this comment on another VN that is just starting without the college-thrope whatsoever, frats, etc. It's in a summer vacation set type of story. And yet, it is still being compared. I guess, whoever prohibits mentioning BaDIK is kinda justified. I'll get annoyed to people like these as well.

 

[shazba]

It's nothing to do with the devs, it's the f95 moderators who bar mention of other games in reviews, because it's against the review rules?

They are nothing alike. There are some common elements (college, freeroams) and the dev included some obvious parodies of BADIK elements (knock off frat). That's all it takes for some people to decide they're comparable.

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Again, nothing to do with the dev. The moderators put that warning there. Even devs who own their thread have no power to remove or edit other users reviews or posts. Go look in off topic, there are whole threads with devs arguing with the moderators/staff about why reviews have or haven't been removed/edited etc.

And the moderators put warnings like that on threads when numpties constantly post reviews comparing games, which is against the rules.

I don't blame the devs or moderators for that matter if they do this. They want their game to be judged on its own. Comparing something like BaDIK to others is not a fair comparison, given the shear number of branches and characters and the general direction of the game.

There is a clear cut rule:

"Please avoid advertising other games in game threads, this will often derail the discussion."​

That rule exists among other rules with the aim to avoid derailing a thread.

Any mention of BaDIK in other similar veined game threads will ultimately devolve into a huge argument, and since BaDIK is the leader of the pack in this sub genre, it's not fair to other efforts to keep bringing it up in their own threads.

To be honest, I haven't found any games in this college AVN genre to be blatant ripoffs of BaDIK. College has certain tropes that BaDIK doesn't own, and it's what we expect from a college setting.

Sororities, fraternities, hot teachers, fights, nerd/jock rivalries etc., it wouldn't be college if these were omitted.

BaDIK definitely inspired a lot of these games, just like BaDIK was inspired by movies in the genre, and I wouldn't go so far as to suggest these other games didn't jump on the band wagon after BaDIK's exceptional reception, but I wouldn't label them as knockoffs either.

Frosh Life was one game that died a death that I thought started off great; it was just goofy college fun. The rest are a little overly grandiose, but nice distractions between BaDIK episode.

Life in SC is the biggest offender. They straight up rip code right out of BaDIK. The phone graphics/mechanics are an exact match and they even use some of the same background songs. The big difference is the dialogue writing. This is where DPC shines and other devs fall painfully short. I'm not saying DPC (who certainly has issues with his story logic and over-reliance on drama) is the second coming of Tarantino or anything like that, but the man knows how to write a scene with engaging conversation.

Aside from the lewds, I think character dialogue interaction may be my favourite part of the game. I don't know how, but DPC can always make an interesting scene out of two people just sitting in a room talking. If he could ease back from the spiderweb plot dramas and clean up some of the logic issues, then the sky is the limit.

Definitely the dialogue flows very well. Most other games eventually bog down, the dialogue becomes tedious, and eventually I need to stop for a few days or else I find myself fast forwarding. What's amazing is that all the characters are distinct in their style, yet they are all compelling reading. It's even fun to read Tybalt's bullshit.

 

[allanl9020142]

Thing is, the comparison with BaDIK is so widespread, I saw this comment on another VN that is just starting without the college-thrope whatsoever, frats, etc. It's in a summer vacation set type of story. And yet, it is still being compared. I guess, whoever prohibits mentioning BaDIK is kinda justified. I'll get annoyed to people like these as well.
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Honestly, I think the direct comparisons would be a real time-saver for deciding whether to try out a new game while I'm waiting for this one. A lot of the times the dialogue just gives me headaches, the characters look kinda meh, or there's something about it that's just not up to par.
If the first review I read said "Oh yea, this is on the same level" then that would definitely convince me to give it a try. If it said "kind of sucks compared to BADIK" then I'd probably just skip it.
It's kind of hard to find something as interesting as this game that also has a dev who's made this a full-time thing which can pretty much guarantee that I won't be seeing an "abandoned" tag ever.

 

[Ilhares]

If the first review I read said "Oh yea, this is on the same level" then that would definitely convince me to give it a try. If it said "kind of sucks compared to BADIK" then I'd probably just skip it.

That can be tough to properly quantify, however. There are a great many games where the renders are simply superb. I'm not trying to pick on DPC, his are nice, but you can see quite a few games where they are are simply visually in another class altogether, a better class.

But then the writing is crap, or the game mechanics are crap, etc. As this thread has demonstrated, a lot of people seem to think the sound is the go-to factor, but since I play everything muted if somebody used that as their comparison point it would be utterly meaningless.

 

[DrSoong]

I'm not trying to pick on DPC, his are nice, but you can see quite a few games where they are are simply visually in another class altogether, a better class.

Good graphics don't keep me staying at the game or even replaying, they are a nice bonus but not necessary (for me). It's the story bounding me for a game.

But then the writing is crap, or the game mechanics are crap, etc. As this thread has demonstrated, a lot of people seem to think the sound is the go-to factor, but since I play everything muted if somebody used that as their comparison point it would be utterly meaningless.

It's nice to have some sound but i think not as this necessary in VNs as in other games (eg. sneaking around, hearing somthing coming from the back side,...). But everybody feels different about this, so it's a personal decision to enable sound or mute it (sometimes i mute it only to enjoy the silence during a playthrough).

 

[LizaS]

That can be tough to properly quantify, however. There are a great many games where the renders are simply superb. I'm not trying to pick on DPC, his are nice, but you can see quite a few games where they are are simply visually in another class altogether, a better class.

But then the writing is crap, or the game mechanics are crap, etc. As this thread has demonstrated, a lot of people seem to think the sound is the go-to factor, but since I play everything muted if somebody used that as their comparison point it would be utterly meaningless.

Agreed.

In terms of render quality, BaDIK is really good, but like you said you can see other VNs that have better renders than BaDIK, but then they fall of in terms of writing and everything else.

Overall, in terms of writing, render quality, game mechanics, BaDIK is atleast great in those maybe that's why it gets compared to others often.

 

[DrSoong]

More important than anything though, is that you feel for the characters.

I also would say it's important, you have at least a character you won't like. Never would like a game where every char is a good one, without an antagonist it's like having endless sunshine but no rain, sure, for a short amount of time you would like the sunshine but lateron, you would miss all the other conditions.

 

[PashafromRussia]

life in SC is the biggest offender.

What kind of game is this? If you're talking about Life in Santa County, then judging by the description, it's more a clone of Milfy City than BaDIK.

 

[Lostanddamned]

What kind of game is this? If you're talking about Life in Santa County, then judging by the description, it's more a clone of Milfy City than BaDIK.

He's talking strictly about the interface and the mechanics of the game though (hell even the free roam events are like a carbon copy of BaDIK).

IMO the biggest difference is LISC's variables. Like there are multiple variations of one scene depending on bunch of variables, but it's completely unclear how to get them. I still can't get some scenes unless I use 0x52's mod.

BaDIK doesn't have that issue. You can get whatever scene you like because the player actually understands how things work and you don't have to use the walkthrough or the mod necessarily.

 

[PashafromRussia]

There is a clear cut rule:

"Please avoid advertising other games in game threads, this will often derail the discussion."​

That rule exists among other rules with the aim to avoid derailing a thread.

Any mention of BaDIK in other similar veined game threads will ultimately devolve into a huge argument, and since BaDIK is the leader of the pack in this sub genre, it's not fair to other efforts to keep bringing it up in their own threads.

To be honest, I haven't found any games in this college AVN genre to be blatant ripoffs of BaDIK. College has certain tropes that BaDIK doesn't own, and it's what we expect from a college setting.

Sororities, fraternities, hot teachers, fights, nerd/jock rivalries etc., it wouldn't be college if these were omitted.

BaDIK definitely inspired a lot of these games, just like BaDIK was inspired by movies in the genre, and I wouldn't go so far as to suggest these other games didn't jump on the band wagon after BaDIK's exceptional reception, but I wouldn't label them as knockoffs either.

Frosh Life was one game that died a death that I thought started off great; it was just goofy college fun. The rest are a little overly grandiose, but nice distractions between BaDIK episode.


Definitely the dialogue flows very well. Most other games eventually bog down, the dialogue becomes tedious, and eventually I need to stop for a few days or else I find myself fast forwarding. What's amazing is that all the characters are distinct in their style, yet they are all compelling reading. It's even fun to read Tybalt's bullshit.

Perhaps I will express an unpopular opinion, but do you remember the games about college before to BaDIK? I remember that time. Then there were packs of games about the corruption of mothers and sisters, and the trendsetter were games like Milfy City and Big Brother (IMHO, in terms of mechanics is still the best game).
Only Philly and several other developers were engaged in the development of story games in which the world did not revolve around a schoolboy with a huge penis.
Anyway, all the other college games came out on the wave of Pink's success. They borrowed a lot from him (whole mechanics like freeroams, the idea of phone content, full-fledged music tracks, not two-note background music, a through and inconspicuous main plot, in general, the very concept of releasing the game by episodes, not by updates). Therefore, any game after BADik will be a copycat by default. True, some manage to rework his ideas and release an original product (for example, Lust Academy, a game about a magic college), but they are a minority.

 

[†ElAmigo†]

I downloaded v8 season 1_2 for windows in separate links by mega but after unzipping .. i found empty folder zero bit ... Can any one help me with please ?

I would say your download failed because it happens to me sometimes, and downloading it again works.

 

[znar25]

I don't know why people hate Burker... What has Burker done to the MC in the game? He has treated him well and I bet Burker sees the MC as the son he doesn't have lol

They hate him just for being Isabella's simp when there are many of her simps here... So hate each other

My man Burker the character not understood

S. Burke has that unfortunate look of a cardboard cutout character that has a good chance of being dead or in prison by the end of the VN. He is convenient to sew up a lot of plot items.

 

[qweasd55]

I would say your download failed because it happens to me sometimes, and downloading it again works.

How it fails when the files are 18.5 gb ..?

 

[sixart]

How it fails when the files are 18.5 gb ..?

How often do you update your archive manager ?

 

[qweasd55]

How often do you update your archive manager ?

What is that ?

 

[sixart]

What is that ?

You know that thingy that extracts the archives...

 

[DrSoong]

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[NebulousShooter]

S. Burke has that unfortunate look of a cardboard cutout character that has a good chance of being dead or in prison by the end of the VN. He is convenient to sew up a lot of plot items.

Oh, look, you even have AchedCroissant 's favorite girl in your sig