- Aug 27, 2020
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I don't know Liza...
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you.... DPC and chaff?? He digs in the mud a bit for his story too!- Thread starter N7
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you.... DPC and chaff?? He digs in the mud a bit for his story too!
- Oct 20, 2020
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True, but Jill has no idea who the sick person is. Could be Josy, could be TroyThis could be because Jill knows Isabella and Josy. Jill has a biased opinion of Sage.
, could be just about anyone she knows or doesn't know. I just don't understand the jealousy angle from Jill at that very moment, especially when you are trying to do something altruistic which is central to the character of Jill. On my Chick run, Jill has been given no cause to ever doubt me. I didn't even snap a dic pic on Tybalt's phone or so much as take a whiff of cunny in all my time at B&R.
- Mar 29, 2019
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That ep7_jill_jealousy variable is weird though, so it certainly is going to be used in the future IMO (I suppose it's going to be used on her route, because if it's also used when not on her route it's going to be weird).True, but Jill has no idea who the sick person is. Could be Josy, could be Troy
- Aug 4, 2020
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Yet strangely Jill is ok with you hanging out with women like Bella and Josy and others. Hmmm, curious
OK, I'll put that down to "phrasing"...
If a girl, who really likes you, comes to your house and tells you she's organised a lovely day out for your birthday, and she (or one of her many servants) has made a picnic and everything. Do you think she'd prefer you to let her down to go see to a sick friend who is another girl (yeah, the mc lets on that it's a girl he's seeing), or that you go out on the picnic with her (and that she doesn't even know about the sick friend)?
Logically speaking, the mc already made his plans with Sage, so he hasn't done anything wrong by telling Jill:
mc: "I'm so sorry. You caught me at a bad time."
mc: "I made a promise to a friend to come help her."
mc: "She's sick and needs someone to take care of her."
Now I know this game has DIK/Chick points, and that'd be the chick thing to do, and Jill likes Chicky boys, but tell me honestly, which response would a real life girl prefer? Of course she would prefer that you go with her.
However, if you told her that you'd already made plans, but you're happy to ditch the sick girl, that would complicate things.
A girl would want you to think they are reasonable and would say, "Of course, you should see your sick friend", but she'd want you to say, "You know what, she'll probably be dead by the morning, so there's no real point seeing her now anyway" to which she'd reply, "Are you sure? ... Yaaah, let's go!"
- Jan 20, 2022
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LOL! Never change, Arigon.I don't know Liza...
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- Sep 3, 2020
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But isn't all this going back to what everyone is saying in principle? Jill's personality is like that, and through all your posts you tried to convince the others that she is not like that, and here we are, with a post that states that Jill has the characteristics that we have already said and started the debate...
- Oct 9, 2017
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Yes, she would prefer that you call your sick friend you already made plans to help and tell them "Sorry I can't help you anymore I have a surprise date to go on." That sound very reasonable to me. A real life girl with actual adult emotions would see that you are doing the right thing. They wouldn't blow it out of proportion and assume that because of that they shouldn't be together.
- Jul 7, 2017
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A real girl wants her to be the center of attention of her boyfriend. A man can only compromise by bringing his girlfriend to his sick friend and later arranging and having a romantic date with his girlfriend.
No, I never said anything about wanting DPC to tailor the game to me. I'm just stating the obvious (at least to anyone with an objective mind) that stretching the release cycle out so long runs the risk of people losing interest. This is especially true when there are now so many more games with at least equal if not better quality, either from a visuals or story perspective, and sometimes both, unlike when the game first came out and it was head and shoulders above just about all.
And unlike you, I have been around since way back when DPC was still here interacting with us, so I think I just might have a clearer idea than most do on what DPC will or won't do for his fans.
- Aug 4, 2020
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Not exactly. I've been saying two things.
- Jill doesn't end the relationship because the mc didn't go on the picnic. After not going on the picnic, one things leads to another (or rather one thing doesn't lead to another), and slowly she decides not to advance the relationship. Her decision was based on a lot of shit the mc had been involved in. But if the mc went on the picnic, strongly professed that he would fight for her (and told her directly how strongly he felt for her):
"Because you must be out of your mind if you think I'm gonna stop seeing the girl I think I'm falling for."
And this lead to other outings and her introducing him to her friends, eventually she decides to fuck him.
- The other point I'm making in these last few posts is that if you were gunning for Jill, you'd have chosen to go with Jill.
You want the game sooner, so you're suggesting he release it in half episodes. You're projecting your desires onto everyone else, but it's really what you want, otherwise you wouldn't be suggesting it.
And it doesn't matter how long anyone's been here. It's obvious DPC is gonna do things his way, it's what he's always done. He is aware that the episodes are getting longer and he's trying to stop the ever expanding episode size, but he's not gonna shrink them by half the length.
You guys constantly harp back at Jill dumping the mc because he didn't go on the picnic. That's not fair to the story. She didn't decide it was over because of that.
One thing lead to another, based on your choices at that point, and by the restaurant scene, Jill had decided, based on everything that had transpired, including his getting into fights and trying to burn down Tybalt's mansion, that she wanted to call it off.
That's definitely not the same thing as her thinking, "You don't wanna come on the picnic, fine, I don't wanna see you ever again!"
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- Oct 20, 2020
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Well I haven't seen the variables. I've been a good little Pinkcake minion and haven't delved deep into the code, because we all know there is no greater sin in the commandments of DPC than monkeying with his code. Mentioning F95 is commandment # 2, and a close second.
But, like I said before, I had a save point at the decision, so I didn't have to go back too terribly far. If I didn't have a save close to that point, I would have been incredibly fucking pissed off at having to restart a blue ball playthrough all because of a goddamn picnic.
If a girl, who has previously agreed it is ok to be around other females (whether dating or not) before things get official, and has been previously demonstrated a propensity to favour any altruistic actions (and what more altruistic action than tending a sick person with no possibility of sex) comes to you with an immediate idea for a picnic, but you tell her I'm sorry, I already committed to tending to the dying, then she should say ok, how about the next day? It's not like she has reservations at the priciest restaurant in B&R city.
Look I get it. Every once in a while you feel bad that a particular character is getting ripped on, so you do your best to build them back up. It's admirable. A little daft on a porn forum, yet still admirable. Jill just currently happens to be your soup du jour. You'll be back to ripping her goblin smile in no time.
- May 17, 2020
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All these are good reasons to dump Jill... In real life!!!
The picnic of the "goodbye party"... Unmissable!!!
She is already "almost girlfriend" to have rights, but not "enough girlfriend" to ask your version before taking stupid decisione....
- Jul 24, 2021
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Imagine having so many patreons and earn so much cash that you can buy a small game company and you still releas updates once at 6 months and now we going to once per year, yeah this is not milking at all is just pure greed... i hope he reach 1000 patreons at the end of the year and then you'll see how the bloke can release 2-3 updates per year...
- Mar 29, 2019
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His commandments don't apply to this website though.
Weirder thing about that variable is that it actually transfers, so we'll see what happens with it. Although, I really hope it's not used in other routes in which Jill gets jealous of MC and the LI of your choice for no reason even if you never romanced her.
- Oct 20, 2020
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He has eyes everywhere!His commandments don't apply to this website though.
Weirder thing about that variable is that it actually transfers, so we'll see what happens with it. Although, I really hope it's not used in other routes in which Jill gets jealous of MC and the LI of your choice for no reason even if you never romanced her.
Interesting variable though. I have no doubt that jealousy will play a big part in season 3. Especially with the return of Zoey.
- Aug 4, 2020
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She was ok with the mc making that choice:
Jill: "Oh... Yeah, of course. I understand."
Jill: "I didn't plan anything big. It was spontaneous."
Jill: "You're allowed to have other plans. Haha..."
Jill: "So, uh. Happy birthday."
mc "Thanks, Jill. I appreciate it."
Jill: "(I can't blurt it out now... Crap...)"
Jill: "(Maybe it's a sign?)"
Jill: "(Maybe it's best to not even tell him...)"
But at the same time even if she understood his motives (she wasn't jealous in this case), it changed the course of events.
The fact that you get severely penalised making a chick decision when dealing with a chick oriented girl, seems to be the thing that bothers people the most. But to me, just choose Jill if you want Jill. Choose Sage if you want Sage.
- Mar 29, 2019
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I'm sure that jealousy variable will play a big part when I bang her mom and Bianca in front of her eyes.He has eyes everywhere!
Interesting variable though. I have no doubt that jealousy will play a big part in season 3. Especially with the return of Zoey.
- May 17, 2020
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Sorry but i fully disagree about this.
Piracy is a crime, but agree or disagree about dev choice doesn't change anything.
If it is a big shame to play BaDIK without paying the only solution is... to pay. All other opinions on dev's work are only opinions, that change nothing in the previous fact
- Jun 15, 2022
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Yeah. How dare he take the holidays off? Ottoeight is waiting for his pirated version of the game as soon as possible. The DPC has no right to rest.
Here you go again putting words in my mouth.
When have I ever said I want the game sooner? All I've said was:
- People will start losing interest due to the long release cycle.
- There are logical break points in the last few releases than can be utilized to split the release and have them come out quicker.
And you think I haven't made the argument that it's DPC's game and he can do whatever he wants? I've been making that point since before you join. But I'm not a DPC apologist. I call a spade a spade. I'll continue to provide constructive criticism instead of joining the "DPC can do no wrong" crowd.