In chapter 4, if MC ask her refuge when he freaked out, she the only one that tried to make him see reason
Without asking to much details
I don't think Bella is unique in that. As I recall, Derek explicitly calls the MC a snowflake (during their conversation at the start of Episode 4 when Bert is trying to sleep), and then implies he needs to slow down and figure out what he wants from his relationships. That's more or less the same advice Bella gives (just delivered more crudely).
Sage is the only one who (mostly) ignores the MC's problem while hosting him. She does suggest the MC should move on from whatever happened with Maya when they're talking in the HOT pool, but that's about it. Then again, Sage is also the only one who doesn't know the details of why the MC needs a place to crash: the MC doesn't tell her and she's willing to respect his privacy. So she'd have the hardest time giving useful advice. She does at least work hard to keep the MC's mind off his problems to make up for it.
Fuck! You're like the only other dude here who gets it (maybe
sixart, but he's meming so hard these days I don't always follow his gist
)
There's more than one variable at play here. Porn game logic (choose the bitch you wanna fuck), real life logic (maybe she'll understand... wtf, I said real life logic...
) and then Chick/DIK logic (Jill digs chicky guys). None of that says she
must act a certain way otherwise it's bad game design.
Sadly, the picnic fails under two of those logics and I don't think the third is valid.
The Porn Game logic fails because this 'decision' is a meta-game slam dunk: Sage doesn't care, Jill does - end of story. Sure, Sage has the better case in-game, but everyone and their
mother landlady knew to reload after they saw how Jill reacted in Episode 7. Judging purely by lewd scenes, Sage's option is a complete waste of time. [EDIT: Well, LI lewd scenes; side-girls are another matter.]
The DIK/CHICK logic fails because ditching a sick friend to get into a girl's pants SHOULD be the sort of thing that gives you DIK points. Even if Jill is upset in the heat of the moment, she ought to get over that fast once she realizes the MC is still interested in her and really was looking out for someone in need. Likewise, the most Jill-compatible MCs should be the ones most bothered by the idea of backing out on Sage after agreeing to help her, and the ones most eager to make it up to Jill ASAP. Except thanks to DPC's industrial-strength railroad ties, Jill loses all interest in the MC at that moment and the MC is content to be ignored
no matter how interested we are in Jill.
So 'Real Life' logic is the only leg the game has to stand on, and I have to object to that because... this game isn't real life. In real life our actions can be entirely inconsequential, but in a game we have every right to expect our actions to matter. That is the very reason we *play* a *game* instead of reading a book or watching a movie. Justifying Jill's convoluted troll-logic on the grounds that random shit happens in real life is entirely missing the point.
Besides, even if we allow the 'real life' justification, Jill's behavior is still idiotic. She is very clearly interested in the MC, that's why she set up the picnic as an excuse to interact with him. She should still be at least
a little interested in him even if the picnic fails, yet as
Kellermann points out, no amount of manly tennis, romantic balcony climbing and heroic guitar recitals can rekindle the flame. It honestly makes me wonder what would have happened if the MC had been born in March. Would Jill pigeon-hole the MC forever waiting for a 'perfect sign' that makes sense only to herself? Or would she have dropped any pretense and directly berated the MC for "letting" her force him to ignore her?
No, the plain and simple truth is that in the real world, Jill would merely be a self-centered person with unrealistic expectations for her would-be paramours and we'd be better off without her. You'll forgive me if I'd prefer a bit of fun escapism in my porn games.
if it was Derek who you have to put wieners on his head, everyone would choose Jill without a heart beat,
"Sorry bro, something come up" - And everyone would just go, to try bang Jill who showed up all sexy, asking you out for a private date.
I disagree - assuming Derek really was sick and not just using a sniffle as an excuse to goof off. My main run already turned down both Sage and Jill so it's not like I was getting sex out of it either way, but I still think helping Sage is the right call simply because she needs immediate help and asked for it first; Jill's picnic can and should wait. That wouldn't change if Derek took Sage's role. The fundamental problem is that Jill's picnic request isn't reasonable.
It's actually so unreasonable that I'm honestly not sure if I'd have continued my solo-Jill run if it wasn't possible to avoid talking with Sage (and thus never 'knowing' she needed help). Sure, I'd miss out on her content in Season 3, but there are plenty of other games where I skip all sorts of content that doesn't appeal to me. My guess is that BaDIK would have become another of them.
