VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[ChipLecsap]

Don't worry: he will milk the cow till the very last drop. Till The Very Last Drop. Therefore, yearly updates cycle, lots of Dungeons & Whatever scenes, interludes, restaurant girls and so on, but still people wondering who the damn posted Cathy's pic and who the damn sent Arieth's pics to the Jocks after years.

Wondering what's next after BaDIK? seriously, dude: it's like wondering how's the Afterlife when you are 15.

I'm not sure Milking is the proper description, considering that even from the very beginning he was honest about that this gona take for a long time. even The very early estimates from him was around 14 -16 episode, wich later went to possible 20 .
If he works 4 more years on this project then that is around 7 Year full development, which is almost a proper triple A game development time, and they have 10-15 hour of gameplay may be less, because lots of them are cutscene
So If and When, the game is fully finished, it has the potential to be beyond 30 hour at least of "gameplay". I almost Envy those peoples who in the future gonna play this for the first time, from beginning to end.
It's gonna be a phenomenal experience.
I remember how amazing was for me, when I started, it was before episode 3, I played the first 2 episode just before days of the release of episode 3, then I re-played all the 3 episode.
Since then, I played from the start not once , I once lost all may saves, and I redo everything from scrach, it was amazing

although our experience has the benefits of being part of a Fandom, during the long down times.

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

I'm not sure Milking is the proper description, considering that even from the very beginning he was honest about that this gona take for a long time. even The very early estimates from him was around 14 -16 episode, wich later went to possible 20 .
If he works 4 more years on this project then that is around 7 Year full development, which is almost a proper triple A game development time, and they have 10-15 hour of gameplay may be less, because lots of them are cutscene
So If and When, the game is fully finished, it has the potential to be beyond 30 hour at least of "gameplay". I almost Envy those peoples who in the future gonna play this for the first time, from beginning to end.
It's gonna be a phenomenal experience.
I remember how amazing was for me, when I started, it was before episode 3, I played the first 2 episode just before days of the release of episode 3, then I re-played all the 3 episode.
Since then, I played from the start not once , I once lost all may saves, and I redo everything from scrach, it was amazing

although our experience has the benefits of being part of a Fandom, during the long down times.

It already took me about 25 hours to play through the first eight episodes for the first time. Careful reading of dialogues, mini-games, search for all renders, phone content... In fact, you can be lost in game by two or three days right now. I expect that the full game can take 50-60 hours.

 

[ChipLecsap]

Bella dominated the eighth chapter, flashback, two personal scenes and two huge sexual scenes

there is a danger that it slows down for futile reasons like Jill's pouting

I don't think so, because of "Branching". Even if all the side girls won't get much screen time, in the future, The Five main girl will have to have equal amount of content. That is for sure.
It can't be like "city of broken Dreamers" where, you have to wait 2-3 update cycle to have a Kate scene. In the end of the Day this is rather a " Slice of Life " Game than anything else, the interaction between the characters will always have more priority.

With 6-7 month of development time, He can't be really like, " Hey, Bella only have one scene, wait an another year for more "
so Some sacrifice will be made, and they will be the Side girls, " I think Quinn, Rio, Lily, and Zoey are gonna be the main side girls, for the "others path". And how muh of screen time they get, will be rotated between them.

 

[ChipLecsap]

It already took me about 25 hours to play through the first eight episodes for the first time. Careful reading of dialogues, mini-games, search for all renders, phone content... In fact, you can be lost in game by two or three days right now. I expect that the full game can take 50-60 hours.

or 100, Like Witcher . isn't that right? Geralt from Rivia

 

[Lostanddamned]

Bella dominated the eighth chapter, flashback, two personal scenes and two huge sexual scenes

there is a danger that it slows down for futile reasons like Jill's pouting

I really really doubt it.

Development time is long as it is, but making people wait like a year or year and half for the next main LI scene just because she got more content last episode will hurt him more in the process. I think DPC will still have one main LI on focus per episode, but the others will get content as well.

It certainly won't be like Echoes of Lust or whatever it name became where they focus on one character per update and they drop updates once in 6 months or whatever. And Elizabeth hasn't got any content in the last 3 updates. It's a bad way of developing, not just games, but products as well. It's one of the premier rules of marketing by the way.

I don't think so, because of "Branching". Even if all the side girls won't get much screen time, in the future, The Five main girl will have to have equal amount of content. That is for sure.
It can't be like "city of broken Dreamers" where, you have to wait 2-3 update cycle to have a Kate scene. In the end of the Day this is rather a " Slice of Life " Game than anything else, the interaction between the characters will always have more priority.

With 6-7 month of development time, He can't be really like, " Hey, Bella only have one scene, wait an another year for more "
so Some sacrifice will be made, and they will be the Side girls, " I think Quinn, Rio, Lily, and Zoey are gonna be the main side girls, for the "others path". And how muh of screen time they get, will be rotated between them.

I agree.

He will sacrifice some side girl time and maybe cut unnecessary stuff that take screen time and time to develop. Making people wait 12-18 months for one Maya scene for example, just because last updates' rotation was Jill-Sage-Josy is retarded and it will hurt his business more than this forum does.

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

or 100, Like Witcher . isn't that right? Geralt from Rivia

160 actually with Hearts of Stone and Blood and Wine

 

[felicemastronzo]

I don't think so, because of "Branching". Even if all the side girls won't get much screen time, in the future, The Five main girl will have to have equal amount of content. That is for sure.
It can't be like "city of broken Dreamers" where, you have to wait 2-3 update cycle to have a Kate scene. In the end of the Day this is rather a " Slice of Life " Game than anything else, the interaction between the characters will always have more priority.

With 6-7 month of development time, He can't be really like, " Hey, Bella only have one scene, wait an another year for more "
so Some sacrifice will be made, and they will be the Side girls, " I think Quinn, Rio, Lily, and Zoey are gonna be the main side girls, for the "others path". And how muh of screen time they get, will be rotated between them.

I really really doubt it.

Development time is long as it is, but making people wait like a year or year and half for the next main LI scene just because she got more content last episode will hurt him more in the process. I think DPC will still have one main LI on focus per episode, but the others will get content as well.

It certainly won't be like Echoes of Lust or whatever it name became where they focus on one character per update and they drop updates once in 6 months or whatever. And Elizabeth hasn't got any content in the last 3 updates. It's a bad way of developing, not just games, but products as well. It's one of the premier rules of marketing by the way.

Bella will definitely be there, but I think she will have a reduced presence (or do you think LIs will always have the same screen time from chapter to chapter?)

branching will always be limited, the bulk of the story will always remain communal, and Bella already at the outset is completely excluded from the early chapter issue with Sage's family, and very unlikely to have space in either the Halloween party or the reunion with Zoey (in which no LI I believe will participate)

while she will be involved, if the matter is dealt with quickly, in the clarifications with Jill, which will still be a moderately dramatic moment, more talk than action.

there will certainly be a sex scene with Bella (and all the other LIs), but I doubt it will be "memorable"

 

[felicemastronzo]

Your perception is amazing because it's different for me. Yes, I have the Bella flashback, but that was it on the whole then already.

On the basis of this, you can see that DPC lets the individual LI branches drift apart already in EP8. But I'm afraid that from EP9 our discussion and debates here in the thread will also drift further apart, because the differences of the individual LI branches are always greater.

I simply played the different runs

and Bella's run in chapter 8 is super rich

you start with the flashback
then first failed date
haircut
first substitute teacher for Bella
second date
first time
breakfast with second time


thinking that after the crossroad decision the game will diversify more in my opinion is an illusion

 

[CHAD-MAN]

There seem to be a lot of threesomes in EP9. Josy and Maya is actually set. Sage is also not averse. Most of the other girls aren't either.

Maybe the Jill and Isabella fans will get their money's worth.

What if there is even a lesbian threesome on USB stick, which the MC finds in the black box, if he gets it on. After all, he has a TV in his room now.

Well then I hope so that Josy, Maya and Zoey are to be seen on it, so that my his Throuple (group) can increase by factor Zoey.

That kinda worries me as someone on Jill chick solo path. I dont mind missing some stuff but... I do hope you dont get automatically unlocked and still can decide to go asshole route. I am so afraid DPC cant balance it properly and re-open paths on a game thats still somewhat far away from ending.

 

[Darkdevil66]

Your perception is amazing because it's different for me. Yes, I have the Bella flashback, but that's about it.

From this you can see that DPC is already letting the individual LI branches drift apart in EP8. But I'm afraid that from EP9 on, our discussions and debates here in the thread will also drift further apart, because the different perceptions of the individual LI branches will become bigger and bigger.

That's why you should try all the other paths. Then, you'll finally become what you were always meant to be. All-knowing, polymath and out of this world.

 

[magaclaawe]

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After last week's big report, I haven't got much to add this week.

I've been writing and working on static renders for a couple of tricky scenes with many characters in them. I'm closing in on 3000 renders, and it should be another day or two before I hit that milestone.

I'm currently working on the last free-roam event of the episode. I thought that it wouldn't be the biggest free-roam event of the episode, but comparing the writing to the current biggest one (>1000 renders), they are of similar size. Meaning I'm expecting ~1000 renders in this free-roam event as well, and I'm roughly 200 renders into it.

After I'm done with that event, I have other scenes here and there to make, including lewd scenes, but most of the remaining artwork lies within the free roam event I'm working on.

PC slaves are all rendering animations. 20 animations are in the queue, meaning 6 have been produced since last Friday. This speed is below standard speed because the animations are threesome animations and require a longer time to render.

Since I still have time before I need to make new animations for the render queue, I will continue with static renders next week. I've reached some parts of the episode that I'm particularly excited about creating.

Have a nice weekend

Dr PinkCake

I hope its MMF threesome please.

 

[crabsinthekitchen]

That's why you should try all the other paths. Then, you'll finally become what you were always meant to be. All-knowing, polymath and out of this world.

I'm not sure the world is ready for that amount of knowledge

 

[Sasanid]

Bella dominated the eighth chapter, flashback, two personal scenes and two huge sexual scenes

there is a danger that it slows down for futile reasons like Jill's pouting

Bella finally had scenes where she managed to free herself (to some extent), and wether people like her or not, Jill had a great conclusion if on her path.

But, to me...



That scene alone, with Elena+JB whispering beside them...

Josy finally got some needed attention Ep7-8, and she shined in that one.

 

[always86]

I hope its MMF threesome please.

I hope we’re doing an Eiffel Tower on Elena.

 

[felicemastronzo]

Bella finally had scenes where she managed to free herself (to some extent), and wether people like her or not, Jill had a great conclusion if on her path.

But, to me...

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That scene alone, with Elena+JB whispering beside them...

Josy finally got some needed attention Ep7-8, and she shined in that one.

Josy really shone in the seventh chapter, in which she was the center of her world, and she returned to being an evolved version of the one from the first chapters

in the eighth chapter the status quo was restored

 

[mightybored]

Josy needs to update her phone listing for MC to something better than "That Cute Co-worker".

 

[Olsens.M]

It already took me about 25 hours to play through the first eight episodes for the first time. Careful reading of dialogues, mini-games, search for all renders, phone content... In fact, you can be lost in game by two or three days right now. I expect that the full game can take 50-60 hours.

my first time playing this game I took 1 to 2 days. And it was only 1 route. Then I played again for another different route. Then another, then I started using dev console, walkthroughs to get the full completion and understanding of everything in the game. To play this game in full, you gonna take at least a week. And this was the only VN ever that I replayed even the route I chose as main one to try and make it better and everytime it feels fun. Not like other games where I wouldn't bother to replay them even if I don't like the route I am in lol

This is why when I see people comparing BAD to other VNs I laugh, because there is no way you can compare this masterpiece to anything else.

 

[Olsens.M]

Yes, you have to be chick or neutral affinity and you have to go on a date with her instead of helping Sage when she's sick.

but going on a date with her when Sage, your friend, is sick and asked you for help, ins't being a dick? That is the dickiest move I've ever seen in this game to conquer that chick cow tits girl.

 

[ratttta]

but going on a date with her when Sage, your friend, is sick and asked you for help, ins't being a dick? That is the dickiest move I've ever seen in this game to conquer that chick cow tits girl.

Yeah, nevermind being a dick, that´s just being an asshole to a friend, which is much worse in my book.

 

[Sasanid]

my first time playing this game I took 1 to 2 days. And it was only 1 route. Then I played again for another different route. Then another, then I started using dev console, walkthroughs to get the full completion and understanding of everything in the game. To play this game in full, you gonna take at least a week. And this was the only VN ever that I replayed even the route I chose as main one to try and make it better and everytime it feels fun. Not like other games where I wouldn't bother to replay them even if I don't like the route I am in lol

This is why when I see people comparing BAD to other VNs I laugh, because there is no way you can compare this masterpiece to anything else.

I'm glad to read that, took me about 25-30 hours on my first playthrough (Chick) while I wasn't sure what was going on at all, did another playthrough after that, as a DIK, and it's so different, took me about the same time to complete it, because, well, I also read everything, but it's more the songs and the renders and the 'feels' to the scenes, couldn't cut them for whatever reasons.

Doing another run right now, more as Neutral (cause I want to see if/how I can fiddle with the MJ relationship, heavily leaning toward Josy, and if it changes anything), and I just can't push myself to skip scenes. So yeah.

And it's the same for me, most of the time the pathing on other games isn't that different. Or you can get great, more linear games like Eternum or Artemis, but even then, replayability isn't even in the same ballpark as BaDIK.