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He looks like someone that would be classed as "nouveau riche" while most of the others at the party probably come from old money, and Sage's possible Dad is embarrassingly trying to fit in with these people.
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A lot of people for some reason think that Bella either murdered her husband and parents or both. LoL, not a theory I subscribe to.
Chad is gay was a popular one, not sure after this episode? The MC's mom is Jill's older sister? Which I doubt, because then that would make Jill the MC's cousin, and I don't see any incest stuff happening?
- Sep 20, 2018
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I agree Sage's dad feels like new money, but I don't think he's all that awkward about fitting in. He's eccentric, but the people who talk to him seem to react with curiosity more than disdain.
I do wonder just how old money Tybalt's family is. Jade talks about how Stephen was out earning more money, and usually working is anathema to old money.
- Dec 13, 2018
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That one's still unclear. The "Melanie is Chad's lover" theory has fallen flat, so we're still not much more further forward on knowing whether he is or isn't.
- Mar 7, 2019
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*****SPOLER ALERT*****
Did anyone consider the possibility that MC could in fact be Royce?
Hear me out;
Firstly, after the tennis date with Jill, when you are talking with her on the bench, she states that it is just her and her "parents" now. Also, she mentions an older sister who she remembers by momentos and memories. In my opinion, said sister is MC's mom.
Now, i know what you are thinking. In that case, relationship with Jill would be incestual...
But we don't know if Jill is a biological daughter of the Royce family. I believe she is adopted. There are few subtle hints throughout the game, first of whom appers when MC and Derek are going to Tybalt's room for the first time to have fun. They enter through Jill's room and there is a drawer beneath the bed which contains an old photo of her and Bella. ( not particulary significant on its own ) Futhermore, when Bella is warning Jill not to involve herself with MC in episode 1 she tells her something like: "I know where you come from, I only want what is best for you." And this is my theory:
After Lynette, MC's mom, ran away from her familly ,in god knows what kind of circumpstances, and died soon after. Probably, the Royce familly would have been pretty devestated by the loss of Lynette. Or maybe they just wanted more children and couldn't do it the old fashioned way. In either case, around the time of Lynette's escape, Royce familly adopts Jill and a few years later MC is born. Which explains Jill being a few years older then MC. The picture with Bella and Jill could be the link between the Royce's and Jill. Bella works in the library and she hears about rich Royce familly wanting to adopt and just so happens too know for poor, sweet and unprovided girl by the name of Jill. The Royce familly doesn't want or can't handle to make contact with Neil and MC for whatever reasons. (pride, loss...) but they have never entirly forgotten about him. For example, in the cafeteria scene where MC is describing his early life to Bella, he speaks of the story in which he as a kid got bullied a lot. That led to his father learning about MMA and teaching MC who then later beats up a bully in school. Now, he and his father are about to get sued but the injured party just forgot about it?!
Sounds like a situation which a rich familly, like Royce, could easily deal with by greasing a few wheels...
Also, in episode 5, Neil tells you about letter from mom. I'm guessing that we will soon know if I'm right or no.
Besides, Jill and Lynette both have pretty similar patterns of behaviour regarding money. Lynette left her familly and all their money for love and throughtout the game Jill doesn't seem to care much it. In addition she seems to be iritated by people around her who are always talking about their parents success/money and economic lectures...
Lastly, all Jill dates were pretty much forced ( according to her after tennis date ) by the "familly" and it sounds like the old man Royce wants for Jill to find a wealthy and successful man so the familly can avoid another Lynette scenerio.
Anyway, that's my theory. I'm curious about your thoughts
Holy smokes..Very James Ellroy L.A. Confidential or what!!
Jill would have to vamoos though because you can't have incest in this game in my opinion.
- Oct 24, 2018
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That would make Jill the MC's Aunt, not his cousin; the relative ages suggest that Jill would would be the daughter of the the MC's mother's sister if the incest theory was plausible (which it isn't because DPC don't play dat way). My theory about Jill being MC's cousin was based around the idea that our beloved dev would try to punish us in some way, so that, by rejecting happiness with Maya and Josy (together or separately), Sage or Bella, it would be revealed that Jill, our primary LI was a blood relative, thus making it a bad end
- Nov 30, 2018
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DPC has always been against this idea and as I've said before he has rules for custom renders and that fetish is not allowed so he won't even do it for custom renders let alone in his game it's an idea that needs to die.
- Dec 13, 2018
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I think they're just curious because he's eccentric. They don't necessarily have to feel any kind of disdain for the new money guy, they could just be looking at him and thinking, "who is this strange fellow?".
- Oct 24, 2018
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That doesn't rule out my theory of a blood-related Jill who successfully cockblocks our MC until the revalation that she's his cousin. I don't believe it will come to pass but it's fun to propose it every-so-often
- Dec 4, 2017
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If memory serves I would say they react to him with disdain. The guy who people think is the MC's possible grandfather and that other guy have no interest in talking to him. They lie about not taking a trip this year when he wants to be invited and then when he leaves talk about doing it in like two months.
Doesn't Jade talk about Stephen making money from selling stocks? Wouldn't say the market is anathema to old money.
- Jun 16, 2017
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I still think he's gay. Otherwise how could he be so emotionally and physically dead to Sage? I find it extremely unlikely that he's attracted to women if he doesn't react at all with Sage in front of him basically begging for intimacy. Just cause they talk about panties doesn't mean we can't be talking about a guy, like I said a while ago, men can wear lacy "women's" underwear.
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The MC being related to any of the girls in any way is very unlikely plenty of other games out there that has all that. And if it's fun to propose something that won't happen then sure but hearing about all these silly incest theories because someone has a hunch is tiresome.That doesn't rule out my theory of a blood-related Jill who successfully cockblocks our MC until the revalation that she's his cousin. I don't believe it will come to pass but it's fun to propose it every-so-often
Would he mind if mc fucks Sage on a DIK party?
There is this scene in ep.2 where Jacob stops mc from doing it :
jac "MAGGOT! GET OVER HERE! NOW!"
mc "Shit...gimme one second!"
mc "Hey, what's the problem I was kinda busy over th-"
jac "You do realize who you're about gonna bang in public?"
mc "Yeah, of course."
jac "Man...you're fucking crazy."
jac "This isn't the CUM-petition anymore, you know that?"
jac "If you fuck her on that couch, everyone at this party will talk about that tomorrow."
jac "For one, it {b}will{/b} reach Chad before sunrise."
jac "And secondly, it will reach-"
So there must be something special about Sage's background ...
- Jun 16, 2017
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I think the red haired guy is a distraction. A way to obvious one to throw us off. In the scene where Jade and Stephen have the fight and she is throwing pictures there are 3 pictures. Tybalt on the left, Jade and Stephen in the middle, and the one on the right we never see. It even flies at Stephen with the back showing so we don't see the front. I'm betting Sage is in the right picture frame. I don't know who the red haired guy is and nor do I think it matters. Hell that red haired guy could be Jill's father for all we know. Jill isn't at the party either remember. She's at Bella's comforting Cathy. Jade in the car if your doing the fuck the teacher scene says her career and her children (plural) are the most important things in her life. Hell he could be Cathy's dad for all we know, maybe Cathy was supposed to be at the party but because of the Cluck she was like eff that. I think the guy was meant to make us think he was Sage's dad because the red hair is too obvious.
- Sep 20, 2018
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The two men in the front hallway definitely didn't want him involved in their trip, so that might be disdain. The two students in the back room just thought he might have drunk a bit much. I guess it could go either way.
As for the market, I usually associate it with new money. The money was 'new' because someone had just made it, so business, finance or investment were the usual mechanisms. Old money came from owning huge tracts of lands, ideally with the ability to rent them to those who would do the actual work (or tax the lands directly, if the family was nobility).
The categories change over time, though, and the world in BaDIK may look at it differently. But I just found it interesting that Rusty, who is definitively old money, was rejected by Tybalt in the flashback.
It could be because Rusty managed to push nearly all of Tybalt's buttons (and might have got all of them if Tybalt saw him hit on Jill). But it might also indicate that the Preps are more about new money than it first looked. Yes, Jill is there, but she is considered an exception, and we know Tybalt has an interest in her.
- Sep 20, 2018
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I was onboard the "Sage is Tybalt's sister" wagon back in Episode 4, but I've jumped off now.
The way Sage describes her father at the party, "looking for new business opportunities and kissing asses," just doesn't fit Stephen. It does fit the guy with red hair, so he's my new suspect.
- Dec 13, 2018
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If that guy was a Royce, particularly if he was the direct descendant of the founder (i.e. grandson), I think the people at the party would have shown him a bit more respect.
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Chad's sidechick is Melanie.oh right i totally forgot. We might get to find out who Chad's sidechick is haha
- Jun 16, 2017
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Just like Rusty being shown respect for being the direct descendent of a Burgermeister? Every family has a black sheep, maybe the red haired guy is the black sheep.
We see Stephen having a conversation with his wife saying "not tonight dear, not here" and we see him come out of a room after Mona. That's 2 very brief glimpses into his actions and your basing his entire night off those? Sage does say her Dad is downstairs and there is Stephen.
I think y'all are making a lot of assumptions off very little data just because 2 people share the same color hair.
- Nov 30, 2018
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Red hair guy was far too prominent in those scenes for it not to have some sort of meaning, going around mingling with other guests most likely to hear if there are any business opportunities. With Burke, I think he's most likely not in that situation to be looking for new business opportunities he seems pretty well set up as it is.