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Poor Maya is so wrong about me, sorry darling, but I have to go, your soon to be Ex girlfriend is waiting for me
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1-When the only other example that the author provided not only disallowed a thruple, but
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3- you might be right, but the MC we have now is not the MC of that simple date with Josy, and the simple next date at her house. Both the MC and Josy have evolved, and not necessarily for better or worse, but most definitely different. Hell Week eclipsed every other bad decision the MC ever made in his entire life, as Hell Week is intended to do. Reflection on events and decisions prior to that, at this point would be more nostalgic than anything else.
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You misunderstanding
. Maya and in extend Josy , gets the hate not because of their story, But because They rejected the Dik MC, but they forgive each other. That is all. Nothing, more nothing less, never was. Not really because its not like they act cold towards the MC if they reject you, hell Josy still seems to almost prefer the MC to Maya and if anything she and Maya are becoming more distant..its likely the MC & Josy reconnect soonYou misunderstanding
Also I played the Chik path as well once and it felt off and weird, its clear the threesome relationship will likely not end well. This whole direction hurts Maya more than Josy because Josy still feels more like her own character while Maya is too connected with Josy now and has nothing else going for her
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That's a pretty weird sentiment, considering the situations are not comparable to each other.You misunderstanding
a) Maya and Josy had lost contact (DPC logic is extremely spotty here but that's how it's presented), so they couldn't really have a relationship, could they.
b) They didn't reject MC because he cheated on them with the other one, they just don't like him as a person if he acts like a DIK the whole time. It doesn't even matter if you banged 10 other girls, they will accept him as long as he's not an overall asshole.
If that's really why people hate on Maya and Josy, I'd say their being a bit entitled, wanting to have practically everything in one playthrough.
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Lol you make Maya seem more important than she has been since the first 2-3 episodes or so. Back when the MC was living with her and she was kind of the first girl he connected with I can see the argument for her being the main girl but that was a long time ago.
Quinn is an interesting antagonist for many reasons, her mistreatment of Maya is just one of the aspects but definitely not the only one. She is into lots of shady stuff and has her own story. Sage also never talked with Maya until this episode and had her own story. Same for Isabella and Jill. So I don't really see how the story revolves around Maya..if you go with the DIK path she is basically removed from the story and has very little relevance (in the CHIK path she is important but "just" one of the main girls, not more)
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Poor Maya is so wrong about me, sorry darling, but I have to go, your soon to be Ex girlfriend is waiting for me
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Well it is as it is. I was here, I can assure you the vast majority of the player were Dik affinity player, who were rejected, and then they feel it as a personal insult. I guarantee you, if the library instead of rejection would lead to back to Josy and Maya room, and lead to the hottest sex ever, we would not have this conversation.
and of course we had the massivest massive diks , who were all but hurt that how these to bitch they don't give a shit about dare to kiss behind their back.
.You may think I'm joking but that's exactly how it went down. and it lasted for months, hell, even for a year. it dried out after the big purge and around episode 5
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Yea I kinda got some of those vibes. Especially if you go back to the dorm with Josy and she basically tells you she still likes you but she didnt feel like she had a choice. I just want to make sure I dont lose a Josy route just because I didnt want anything to do with Maya lmao
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I think Maya's plot has been a good one, especially for a coming of age story like BaDIK. But I do think it's been hurt by a few structural issues with the way DPC presented it.
The biggest problem is just overexposure. The relationship between Maya, the MC and Josy was the major subplot of Season 1, completely dominating the final episode; the other girls got great scenes, but the focus was always on Maya and Josy. When the situation is finally resolved one way or the other, we have a single (short) episode to breathe before we jump right back into the Maya drama, first with her worrying over the Scavenger Hunt, then in full-on crisis mode thanks to her father.
That's a lot of focus on squarely Maya, particularly since Josy was MIA for the first half and is dragged into the second half through Maya. Even for a hardcore Maya fan like me, it's a bit exhausting. For anyone less invested, I'm sure it's beyond frustrating by now. We really needed more time to give Maya a turn as a supporting character in the other girls' stories in season 2, the way Jill, Bella and Sage got to help the MC through the "Maya issue" in Episode 4.
Instead, Josy's main drama continues to be her relationship with Maya, Jill gets that interminable blackmail subplot, Bella spends most of her time foreshadowing her marriage issue, and Sage winds up being drawn into Maya's plot directly! Good grief! The only other girl who comes close to getting that much attention is Quinn - and what a shock, she's plenty polarizing in her own right! (Also, a lot of Quinn's screen time is in cutscenes, which makes it a bit less intense since the MC isn't constantly reacting to her.)
On top of that, Maya will always pay the price of memorably demanding 100% honesty from the player, only to keep a pretty fucking big secret from him. I think we can all intellectually understand why she did it, but that doesn't mean it's easy to forgive her for it. I certainly can't blame people who would be reluctant to trust her after that... yet the plot proceeds as if trusting her was a foregone conclusion. Again, this would have been a lesser problem if it happened in Season 3 after we'd switched the focus to someone else. That would have given us time to build up the trust the story really relies on. Instead it just exacerbates the problem of overexposure.
Lastly, we get the infamous library scene at the end of Episode 4. Normally I'd let Bacchus rail against this, but since he's no longer here I guess I'll have to cover it. The problem is that we spent an entire episode watching the MC freak out over the fact that Maya and Josy were secretly girlfriends. He talks at great length about how difficult it was to be lied to and kept in the dark like that. All the while, the MC spends no time whatsoever trying to learn about just what the hell happened between them, or really shows much interest in their relationship at all. Yet when we get to the finale, it's all about how Maya and Josy still love each other, and the MC's place in their relationship is a literal afterthought. Even worse, if the girls reject the MC (for very poorly explained reasons in game), we get that infamous shot of the two making out as the MC walks away.
Just... wow. I mean, I'm as big a fan of the pair it gets (though perhaps not quite as a big a fan of Josy as ChipLecsap
), but even I felt the chill there. What we needed was to restructure the episode so the MC spends less time moping and more time learning why things played out the way they did. That way when the finale comes around, the MC can either choose to forgive them and help them rekindle their relationship, or admit he really did care about both and try for something more. By making the MC the driving force behind the reconciliation on the friendship route, we might at least get a little buy-in from the people who don't want anything more to do with the pair. And by eliminating the rejection path we can avoid upstaging the MC's in his own story. It's still not perfect, but it would have dodged some of the most glaring pitfalls.
But hindsight is always 20/20, and we're stuck with what we got. I think Maya's hatred will probably mellow out a bit if she ever sorts out her problems and finally gets to take a supporting role for a while, but there will always be people bitter about the way she was handled. I'm okay with that. It means less competition for me.
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be a creepy DIK, annoy her, betray Tommy and the DIK's code, offer her a drink, then she'll "owe" you one
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If I can requote myself, I said more "plausible", not "impossible". Hell, one could even make an argument B&R is inspired from the colleges from those in the old college comedies. The college in the granddaddy of them all, Animal House, was based on Dartmouth College, in New Hampshire. So, maybe the argument for Connecticut isn't so tight.
I've lurked for a while. I wouldn't dare take on dalli_x, but I always love a good challenge, even if it means my brain in a puddle.But your biggest mistake was debating ludicrous analyses with Warscared.
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Oh, i put all my money in this.
I am sure you are aware of the similarities beetwen BADIK and AL. Well, who were the main girl in AL?. They are different stories, but every writer has his own obsesions, and one of the main obsession of DPC seems to be trouples.
And a really important piece of information, DPC girlfriend is... a feminist.
Now, thoose are hints, are meant to give a probable insight into the writer mind. But its story structure what gives you the confirmation. So let's see it.
But first, every conventional story (and this one it is) is the combination of a trouple relation Hero-Victim-Villain. It's the relation with the victim wich definesthe role of every character, thoose who help and thoose who hurt it.
Quinn is an interesting character for many reasons. But it's her relation with Maya who defines her role in the story. Her role was defined at the endig of episode 1/begining of ep2, when she "forced" Maya to grind herself with the MC and kidnapped him. Yet the scene (good one but ilogical for me) was explain by the same story as an agression towards Maya. Before that her character wasn't really defined, we almoast didnt knew her. Besides that, her relation with the MC depends on your path and the worst thing she did was to get Mona out of college. But when Mona get out of college? Exactly the moment that Maya was facing a similar scenario. Do you see? Is like when a movie they make an extra to have a horrible death in a moment when the main character is in a similar position, its not meant that we care about the extra but to build tension on the main character by showing what could happen to him. Even Quinn, Sage struggle (the other significant relationship that Quinn has with a LIs) has suddenly a name in ep7, and that name is Maya. Right now she is making Sage and Quinn to fight each other.
About Sage... yes she had her own story, but also Josy had their own. Now we know that was a sublot meant to build the main plot... her relation with Maya. Sage story is pretty simple, more than a story its a back story. At ep7 (when suddenly you can pursue her again) she had a complete swift. People were still arguing about the fundamental Sage traits, did she kenw about the buffet? Did she was therefore good? And at episode 7 she gets over Chad and throw herself into the Maya Quinn conflict, and by doing so defines her role, yes she is good, no she didnt knew about the buffet. And by doind it puts the whole Status Quo at risk. Again her role is defined at the ending of episode 7 in that speech wich is meant to be the core of the climatic moment of the whole episode.
About Bella and Jill. Well thoose are presisely the storylines who are not integrated yet to the main storyline. And yet, did you notice the intense way Bella looks at Maya? Yes, the simple explanation is that she is interested in the MC. But whythe story puts enfasis on that? Bella saw the MC with Josy but she didnt talk about her with Jill. She also saw him with Sage, but besides a couple of obvious questions nothing happened. And Bella-Sage relation is more significant. I call it a rushed foreshadowing and we will see exactly where it is going later.
All the LI's paths are going to converge as long as the history progress and by doing so become a single plot.
Finally, i give you the graphic show of the mainclimatic moments and endings. I think it is a good way to see the narrative structure:
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we have now 7 chapters watching that josyy will bang literally everyone so her wishy washy story with maya doesnt fly anymore.
after chapter 4 pinkcake still shoehorn them with their romance, their hot quest and now maya idiotic father drama
we still havent helped jill practice for her concert, we havent explored more if sage really likes mc, we are getting glimpses of quinn sweeter side. all those stories are more interesting than josy-maya who are both awful people who cheated eachother at the first time of troubles in their relationship
maya and josy dragging sage into their bullshit is unforgivable
after chapter 4 pinkcake still shoehorn them with their romance, their hot quest and now maya idiotic father drama
we still havent helped jill practice for her concert, we havent explored more if sage really likes mc, we are getting glimpses of quinn sweeter side. all those stories are more interesting than josy-maya who are both awful people who cheated eachother at the first time of troubles in their relationship
maya and josy dragging sage into their bullshit is unforgivable
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You misunderstanding
dejavu...a bit too simple like that.
That, if anything, is why they don't forgive her (it's a porn game after all, why give up sex?), but not why they resent her.
Let's assume they were vaguely interested in her:
1) they come out to her, and she keeps quiet.
2)night of the grinding where she all the time thinks about the strange sensations her body feels and her guilt for her partner, which we will later find out is Josy, not a thought about what she is doing to MC
3) as soon as they meet again she asks Mc to help her with a kiss... without the need to apologize.
in reality at that point there are those who would not have forgiven her and those who lie.
Then of course after being possibly rejected it didn't please anyone, and Josy telling us that they did it because Maya was scared didn't improve her position
but we leave that to the accused:
