VN - Ren'Py - Completed - Between Salvation and Abyss [Final] [Ethan Krautz]

This game could be great, the problem the story which should be your main draw or one of them at least tends to be hard to follow. Proofreaders should be an necessity when making games. Having a solid proofreader can make or break a game.

Renders:

The Renders are Mid, grainy in some areas and good in others.


Story:

The story is really dark. Abusive psychotic father who likes to beat women, including his own pregnant wife, get mauled down by our hero main character. The MC is sent to some facility as a result and doesn't return home until he's a full adult. The story contains graphic violence, which is noticeable on faces of the MC and his poor Mom. The story also features Rape and some forced content.

The dialogue was still a glaring issue for me, there's the grammar on one hand and the "Landlady and Tenant/Roommate" business. This game is written with incest in mind and playing it without a patch is like grinding your testicles on a cheese grater. I'm hoping a good PR rescues this project, because I think it's something there story wise. The MC could've inherited the psycho gene, and I think it's something to observe. I will note that he was beaten badly by 5 thugs, that will change anyone's mental, especially when they started talking about raping his Mom and Sisters.


Gameplay:

It took me a minute to fix the settings of the Text to my liking, but I did eventually. I didn't have any bugs so that's a plus.


Characters:

MC seem like a protector-Hero type and showed his vicious side when dealing Drake's mom Victoria I believe her name is. It was a graphic scene and possibly hinted at a change in the character, I thought his scenes with the younger sister were a bit forceful also.

Mom/Milf I love her, despite the redundant tropes "I shouldn't be doing this, I'm his mother" type nonsense. I really enjoy her, makes me wanna protect her. The other two sister aren't really worth mentioning sorry.

Edit: Ch 6

Too many rushed, lackluster sex scenes with important characters. The gapes are gross and overboard, nothing is optional, this game is a letdown.

A pretty good game. Worth playing. The renders of the women are quite good. The story is ok, but has some gaps, and new characters and strange developments are thrust into the story without much lead-in. I would have liked some choice in key pivotal moments, such as when he must choose to be a monster and enslave Victoria, or instead romance her into obedience and subservience.

Wow, well then....

It's like 2 entirely different games rolled into one and they don't mix very well.

One minute the MC is a loving, caring person on the verge of romance with the girls close to him .... 10 minutes later he's violently raping a woman.

I'm not into rape at all and for the MC to do it twice to the same women in the space of a few scenes .... no thanks.

Romance story, tale of violent rape .... pick one, they don't mix.

Edit - thought i'd give it another go, see if anything had improved and it's got worse.

That romance tag needs removing. This isn't me being "salty" this is a case of there is no romance in this game there is only 1 route and it's down the dark path.

MC is a dick to absolutely everyone including those he claims to care about. Getting a blowjob from "little sis" who's never done anything like that, clearly can't handle it and he forces her to choke on it until she passes out.

That's pretty much par for the course with every girl he goes near. There is no romance just douche nozzle sexually assaulting everyone in the game.

On top of the rapes and assults against those he doesn't care about.

MC is a cockwomble. There are no routes, there is no salvation. One character tells him not to turn into his dad who was an abusive dick but i'd argue he's already far, far worse.

TBH this game is way better than I anticipated. The story is dark & alluring which is not something quite common here & that peeked my interest. What the game lacks is choices the game is automatically set to make moves on everyone but I'd rather have the choice to pursue a particular LI if possible. Sure who doesn't love a harem but still I'd like to avoid some girls if possible (like lil sis) cuz it ain't exactly my kink. Sex animations would have given this 1 a major boost & would've taken it sky high, still right now there aren't a lot of sex scenes. Gotto be honest I fuckin enjoyed the Dr sex scenes they were really exhilarating. This game is definitely a Dark horse

the story is good and the game is moving in a good pace.

the models are amazing 10/10 specially the mom.
i hope the we dont get too much charecters.

no sex scenes in the game at the moment ( only a BJ) but thats ok the game is moving along in a good pace and i don't think the scenes will take a long time to start raining on us.

i recommend you try it.
good luck dev.

Some boobs and buttocks seem to belong to an alien race of Hutts, cause they could be used for demolishing buildings, but a few girls there are actually cute (Sofi & Ale).

The story is interesting, though the protagonist's behavior seem questionable (like blackmailing some ugly criminal into having sex with them).

Anyway, I'd like to see further updates.

[Ch.1 Part 1]

To be clear, the two star rating has to do with the backend stuff. It isn't representative of the game itself. When I tried to play the game it began to eat up unreal amounts of RAM. I'm not playing on a gaming PC, I'm on a macbook pro, but this is the only game I've ever had issues with. It was unplayable because of how slow my laptop became.

The story seems pretty good. Just another thinly veiled incest romp through, which just seems so lazy at this point. It seems like 80-90% of all games on this site are incest based. Anyways, dude kills his abusive dad and is revealed to have some pretty cool seer powers. Though the dad story was so rushed and hamfisted. So much more could have gone into that to make us care more. I don't know if that's the gist of what all is out because I just couldn't play to the end. Not because I didn't want to, but because I physically can't do it.

The renderers were what I imagine it is like to need glasses but not know that you need glasses. They were so blurry to begin with, but seemed to get better in the first episode, but again, can't confirm nor deny that. The models are okay. The *totally not mom* is just comical. She looks like the offspring if a pixar mom mated with a parade float. Show me a real human being that looks like that without a stupid amount of plastic surgery. It wouldn't be that bad if other characters were similar, but they aren't. The MCs *totally not sisters* are both normally proportioned. It seems like the characters have their own personalities that follow the rules that dictate the family dynamic in an incest game: doting mother, angry tough sister, clueless little princess sister. The MC has a good disposition and isn't a spinless simp like in every other game. I have to bring it up... what the hell is up with the chick skateboarding on the grass? Was making her ride on pavement that hard? And if it was, why not just put her on a bike? It was so off-putting right off the bat.

The writing is very very translated. It really needs cleaning up. Not to say its bad in concept, but the execution is very rough. The dev needs to find a native english speaker to clean up the english script.

This game isn't a two star game at all, its a three at the very least. But since it is unplayable in its current state for me and many others in the discussion section, I can't give it a better score.

Such a promising game with a great start of a plot that would most certainly grow more attention in the upcoming months on this community, definitely worth to give 5/5 stars.

MC is hung and it seems like it's going to be a harem game which i personally like to play, hence I would definitely suggest to give it a shot.

After playing Ch5part2.
I want to start by saying that I don't like to rate something on first release, that said.

EDIT: That's why I don't like to rate it on the first release, I thought the MC was a guy who wanted to protect his family and those close to him. But it seems he's just become an out-of-control rapist.

I really liked the personality of the MC, something rare nowadays, as it seems it's become a trend of developers to give us an MC with no "balls", where everyone humiliates him so that in the end he has something like an overcoming. Here we have someone who is not afraid to face hell to take care of someone he loves. Congratulations!

EDIT:I still like MC not being a coward, but the way which is going he seems more like a heartless idiot as was reported here, it seems he has outgrown his father, the one who should be the worst show in everyone's eyes.

I also really liked the rederizations, there is room for improvement, but I believe Dev is doing his best with what he has. The details of the models are amazing, the scars on MC and mommy, mommy's pubes make her look like a real woman, none of that ridiculous heart .... hahaha
And the story seems to have potential for a good work.

Only two negative things caught my attention, 1 ° not being able to change the MC's name (I think it's good to know how to name your weight, it helps the player's immersion) and 2 ° the story is moving too fast. Dev takes his foot off the gas, tells his story but calmly, the MC was away from his family for a while, it seems the only one he talked a bit to so far was his mother, the rest was just kind of a length. do some interesting dialogues between people who haven't seen each other for a long time. It's not bad though.

EDIT: I still don't understand how the DEV hasn't dropped the tantrum and won't let the player choose the name for the MC (without having to use mod), if in several times it is clear that he wants us to immerse ourselves in the role of the MC, since in several times the narrative presents us with "you as a subject, example "she looked at you..." or "you left...", the best way to immerse ourselves is to let us choose "our" name, and not have to have the legal name of the DEV

So I'm going to give you 4 stars now, because it's the first release, in the next few updates, I want to come here to give you the fifth star.

EDIT: I wanted to come here to give the fifth star, but I was very disappointed, besides all the things I reported in the edits, what bothers me most is that choosing love points seems to be the wrong choice, we get nothing if we follow the path of love and every sex scene the MC becomes an aggressive idiot, Euphor that you say, it seems that the only way to play here is following the footsteps of Daddy and become the same shit that the guy we should hate.
oh, look, a pigeon.

Needs quite a bit of tune-up before this rating goes up

Plot is a little bit clunky and unclear as we're not even sure what profession the MC is in. Pacing/plot development is a bit off. The entire demo honestly could be stretched out to make a full game but it instead gets packed into 5 minutes of play

Renders are decent as is but the dimensions of the mom/landlady are nowhere near what we first see when we look at the banner or create the relationships. Looks like in between seeing the MC the first and second time, she got surgery to make her hips wider and got both butt and breasts implants all at the same time. You dont need to overinflate the balloons

Dialogue is slightly choppy but it's okay enough to where it doesnt disrupt the flow of the game too much

Really enjoyed the story on this one and it was refreshing to be able to play an alpha male, to many game developers make these beta males, that is really frustrating because I consider myself an Alpha, so I just can't relate to a beta's mentality.

For now i like the game a lot, great renders, not the best obiously but it can get better with experience, money and a better PC obiously xdd.
Good story and great introduction, beautiful characters, i think its worth playing and i hope it can get even better.

WOW, Looks great!!
waiting for more, keep it up!!
Characters loking very good (love the landlady bust!)

oh P.S... it would be awesome if you make the elder sister breasts largeer (or very big) too

a good beginning of the game, the characters are well designed and seem interesting despite how little we see from them which is understandable since this is a demo
the visual are well done each character so far seem to be different and not the same assets reused, the only real detail was the grammatical errors but those will be corrected
Definitely worth playing to get a feel for the characters.