VN Ren'Py Between Us [v0.1] [Serpenthy]

[Serpenthy]

really, it took only 5 minutes and FMC is already cheating, wow, fastest NTR ever seen, I read that the dev wrote that FMC is kind and sweet, with the utmost respect, she became a slut after only three photos.

What you’re referring to, as I understand it, is called a cliffhanger — and it doesn’t mean that the main heroine has turned into a slut or is cheating. However, I decided to include a hint of possible romance between the heroine and the photographer in the first chapter, so that you wouldn’t just read the usual conversation between a couple about how their week went.

 

[Oddyy]

A fan of purely "vanilla" games wouldn't typically seek out this genre, so why some people who follow these games still want a vanilla route? Do you think anyone would actually enjoy a vanilla path where there is no sex—given the MC is thousands of miles away from the FMC—and consists only of dialogue? Certainly not. So why is there consistently a 20% demand for a vanilla route in these types of games?

It is because they view this path as an "escape hatch." These players feel that if the "sharing" dynamic devolves into cuckolding or other heavy drama, they can use that route as a defensive shield. They aren’t being irrational; in the current market, many who start with the promise of NTS eventually spiral into full cuckolding and the genuine humiliation of the MC

Therefore, my personal take is that if you build a solid, confident MC and a strong, caring FMC, underpinned by a compelling and natural relationship, then no one will feel the need for a "loyal" route; the "sharing" and "cheating" routes alone will suffice

One of my least favorite things I see happen with these types of games is the constant need to up the antes. It's what turns a good NTS story to a slow burn into an NTR story. I know I have my own versions of what NTS means but it's just annoying. Like why can't the couple just be happy in their dynamic and leave it at that. And I do feel as if NTS doesn't contain any humiliation or cuckolding but that's just my own take. Only if it's for foreplay or teasing that is fully known is just for play.

 

[TurboKinetics]

really, it took only 5 minutes and FMC is already cheating, wow, fastest NTR ever seen, I read that the dev wrote that FMC is kind and sweet, with the utmost respect, she became a slut after only three photos.

Thats concerning....

 

[TurboKinetics]

All of this text was written by me, not by an AI. I put my own thoughts into every sentence and every reply, so you can judge it as something made by human hands — whether good or bad, but human nonetheless.
If you’ve tried the game, you may have noticed that I even left typos in some places on purpose, so it would feel like a simple, natural conversation between two people who love each other on the distance and smile when the light of the phone screen illuminates their faces.

I was mixing my games. Thats was my bad on saying AI.
I hope the nts route isnt as rushed as it sounds like the ntr route is.

 

[heimdal74]

Not too bad for a start, the FMC POV is a good idea, but I hate cliffhangers. They're frustrating and annoying, especially at the beginning of a game that hasn't yet proven itself.

Later in the game, why not, but at the beginning, it's a bad idea. We're not familiar enough with the characters, and it's risky if the cliffhanger's plot isn't up to scratch; it'll backfire badly.

Anyway, time will tell.

Good luck with your game!

 

[TonyMurray]

Too early for a rating, so I'll leave some thoughts here instead.

I've only played a couple of this specific type of game because I steer clear of the AI ones, so the options are still actually limited. This one starts out quite well, and I like that you get to see the FMC's side of it as well as the MMC's. This greatly increases the options in terms of showing what's going on (although I guess some will prefer not to see too much and have most of the NTR hidden).

I like the setup, and I recommend people play it for themselves rather than just taking the word of the guy saying the FMC has turned into a slut after three photos. That's not the case at all, we don't know what happened at the photoshoot because on both the NTS and NTR route, it ends in a cliffhanger with the FMC telling her friend (NTR route) or husband (NTS route) that something happened and she's either ashamed (NTS) or "you won't believe what happened!" (NTR). On both paths, that could be a lot of things, it doesn't automatically mean that she ended up having sex, and I wouldn't expect it to mean that (especially with the dev's response that has already been provided on this).

Anyway, I think there's good potential here and I'll look forward to seeing how it develops. I'll note that the NTR path could be tricky in terms of content, because there are limited options there - unless the photographer takes photos/films them fucking and shares the results in messages with FMC, or FMC shares these with her friend. There may be other less obvious options that I'm missing as well.

Dev: I didn't track where it was, sorry, but I think it was towards the end of the NTS route where I caught a section between Grace and Logan where the messages were all in blue, showing from the same person. I also noticed that on loading, I was put at the first message and not the last, so I had to scroll down a lot to get up to date. And finally, if it can be worked, a "back" option might be a good idea. I accidentally clicked too fast and chose an option before I'd even read what the options were (finger slipped!) and I had to reload in order to get back to the choice, instead of just going back and playing the choice again.

Thanks for the interesting start, and good luck!

 

[TonyMurray]

Thats concerning....

It's also not accurate though, so I'd ignore it.

 

[Jhin00]

loooks nicee

 

[Serpenthy]

Not too bad for a start, the FMC POV is a good idea, but I hate cliffhangers. They're frustrating and annoying, especially at the beginning of a game that hasn't yet proven itself.

Later in the game, why not, but at the beginning, it's a bad idea. We're not familiar enough with the characters, and it's risky if the cliffhanger's plot isn't up to scratch; it'll backfire badly.

Anyway, time will tell.

Good luck with your game!

I thought that a cliffhanger at the end might disappoint some people, but this is the first update, and I wanted that when you see version 0.2, you’d feel compelled to click and find out what happens next. In the future, I don’t plan to use cliffhangers this often and will try to keep the story’s progression consistent.


Still, games like this are meant to evoke emotions, and the fact that you mentioned it shows that my game stirred some kind of feeling in you — thank you for that!

 

[heimdal74]

I thought that a cliffhanger at the end might disappoint some people, but this is the first update, and I wanted that when you see version 0.2, you’d feel compelled to click and find out what happens next. In the future, I don’t plan to use cliffhangers this often and will try to keep the story’s progression consistent.


Still, games like this are meant to evoke emotions, and the fact that you mentioned it shows that my game stirred some kind of feeling in you — thank you for that!

I haven't deleted your game from my PC, and that's very rare; usually, these kinds of newly released games end up in the trash 98% of the time.

So, for me, it's a good start.

I'll keep an eye on it.

 

[Serpenthy]

Too early for a rating, so I'll leave some thoughts here instead.

I've only played a couple of this specific type of game because I steer clear of the AI ones, so the options are still actually limited. This one starts out quite well, and I like that you get to see the FMC's side of it as well as the MMC's. This greatly increases the options in terms of showing what's going on (although I guess some will prefer not to see too much and have most of the NTR hidden).

I like the setup, and I recommend people play it for themselves rather than just taking the word of the guy saying the FMC has turned into a slut after three photos. That's not the case at all, we don't know what happened at the photoshoot because on both the NTS and NTR route, it ends in a cliffhanger with the FMC telling her friend (NTR route) or husband (NTS route) that something happened and she's either ashamed (NTS) or "you won't believe what happened!" (NTR). On both paths, that could be a lot of things, it doesn't automatically mean that she ended up having sex, and I wouldn't expect it to mean that (especially with the dev's response that has already been provided on this).

Anyway, I think there's good potential here and I'll look forward to seeing how it develops. I'll note that the NTR path could be tricky in terms of content, because there are limited options there - unless the photographer takes photos/films them fucking and shares the results in messages with FMC, or FMC shares these with her friend. There may be other less obvious options that I'm missing as well.

Dev: I didn't track where it was, sorry, but I think it was towards the end of the NTS route where I caught a section between Grace and Logan where the messages were all in blue, showing from the same person. I also noticed that on loading, I was put at the first message and not the last, so I had to scroll down a lot to get up to date. And finally, if it can be worked, a "back" option might be a good idea. I accidentally clicked too fast and chose an option before I'd even read what the options were (finger slipped!) and I had to reload in order to get back to the choice, instead of just going back and playing the choice again.

Thanks for the interesting start, and good luck!

Thank you! I read your detailed feedback with great interest, and I really appreciate that you didn’t jump to conclusions about this game. A lot was said, but your words truly impressed me. I will take all the shortcomings and mistakes into account and do my best to fix them in the near future.

 

[TonyMurray]

I'm used to not criticizing other users. I'm not an idiot for not realizing you were addressing me for that sentence, but you're missing something. If you and DEV are saying that the cliffhanger could be sex, as I wrote, then it's even worse. Sex could happen for many reasons, some of which are justifiable, but a cliffhanger is even worse than cheating sex. It's a classic that few of you have highlighted. In these games, FMC always falls because of her best friend, who encourages her to be a liar and open. I've had my say. You like the game, I'm happy for you, but I repeat, too many moments have been skipped. Why did FMC need to say that a boy gave him flowers, and he gets angry if MC gets angry? You see, these are plot errors, too gross. I could tell you a thousand other errors in the writing of the plot, but, have fun.

Just because you didn't like something doesn't make it a plot error. You're the one who said this:

really, it took only 5 minutes and FMC is already cheating, wow, fastest NTR ever seen, I read that the dev wrote that FMC is kind and sweet, with the utmost respect, she became a slut after only three photos.

There's no evidence that she cheated, and I'm not sure what the "became a slut" bit is based on. We have a cliffhanger, and my assumption based on what you wrote is that you have taken that to mean that she cheated and that's what we'll learn in the next update. I'm just saying there's so many things that the cliffhanger could relate to. Sure, her cheating is one of those things, but in all likelihood, it won't be that.

 

[Lord Bradley]

There are definitely few things to iron out, both mechanically and artistically, but going in without any expectations I can say my experience was enjoyable. I even tried both routes when I normally just stick to one, especially in games that are not very polished and seen many updates yet. Will keep an eye out for further updates, remember to stick to YOUR vision as dev, but it's okay to soak in good advice that you agree with and always ignore the unhelpful noise that will just distract you and slow you down. Make good game and support will follow, it's a marathon not a sprint. Good luck!

 

[russelld]

Here we go again, another phone texting game. It seems like we get a new one of these every week.

 

[xmilteach]

thx

 

[HPZAT]

A man fires a rifle for many years, and he goes to war. And afterward he turns the rifle in at the armory, and he believes he’s finished with the rifle. But no matter what else he might do his wife will always cuck him... View attachment 5563106

This guy and his fellow soldiers got seriously cucked by a Viet Cong heroine. [Which makes Full Metal Jacket the greatest war movie of all times.]

 

[PonderingPotatoPal]

But when a complete stranger gives flowers it's somehow special

game logic: 0

 

[Ali ibn Hassan]

" You are a soldier "

Thnks fr shrng

 

[dexterousgecko]

game logic: 0
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Holy shit that was painful to read. Yea, I see where this is going already.

 

[CNCprincess]

the text between everyone feels like two cavemen talking "WHY PHOTO GOOD?" "YES CUTE BODY"