VN Ren'Py Beyond Tomorrow [Ch.1] [Dream Games]

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your answers are getting little cocky don't you think?

you are nowhere even close to games like Summer's Gone, Beyond Tomorrow, Summer Heat or others that stand out visualy. you prefer quantity over quality that's clear. the only thing I don't understand is why you pretend to do the same job as them when it's not true. you brag about numbers but your game looks like it's from 2005. if you will do the same quality as these devs in the same time you write about then we can discuss

other than that i don't see anyone comparing any games except your fan tslojr
Where did you see cocky answers? I talked as a former player and subscriber in the part you quoted.
I never said I was in the same league as any of those games you name. You are the one comparing games, not me. If you could read a post without your fanboyism blinding you, you could see I am against comparing games.

Oh, and I don't think you know how 3D games were in 2005.

what exactly is ignorant about me having no idea there is game doing such large updates in such short time?
From Cambridge Dictionary, my gift for you:
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you are the one who brought name of another game here not me
He didn't name a game. He respected the forum rules and directed you to his signature. You didn't, naming other games in this thread.

nothing from what i wrote is rude. his game is not on same level as Summer's Gone so why he should push idea into players that everything what takes more than 3 months to update is slow? let's compare it with games having visual quality as TPC do and not with games that stick to the visual top
Do you support any game? I don't know, so I would put another example about something you pay for (if you are more adult than your words show).
Imagine paying monthly for your electricity bill (that's the adult part I was talking about), but they only provide you with electricity once a year. Can you see what I mean?

And also, you continue bringing other games into the conversation and breaking the forum rules once again.
 

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Well, I think you're wrong. You may like the developer more or less, but he is much better than Ocean. You're talking about a developer with a lot more resources, who is on the 3rd version of his game, and who has had all kinds of graphics during this time, with another one who has very clear ideas, writes very fast and optimises the resources he has very well.
If you just look at the graphics Ocean is doing at the rate he's going, in 2040 when he releases season 3 he'll either have done 10 more reworks, or the game will look like shit at that time.
Ha ha ha! In any uncertain situation, blame Ocean! A way to live. :KEK:
Last time I heard there would be 20 reworks and the season 3 will be ready by 2050, so he doubled his output in less than a year. Seems like a very productive guy. :KEK: :KEK: :KEK:
 

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Ha ha ha! In any uncertain situation, blame Ocean! A way to live. :KEK:
Last time I heard there would be 20 reworks and the season 3 will be ready by 2050, so he doubled his output in less than a year. Seems like a very productive guy. :KEK: :KEK: :KEK:
Don't get me wrong, I like the 3 games he mentioned and the truth is that I don't usually complain about Ocean, and I could have used Dream as an example. In one year the progress has been 0.
They can be very good artists or graphic designers, but being a developer is a pack with more things.
I'm not saying anything about Summer Heat, because although they are not very fast, they have things clearer and they advance without stopping.
 
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your answers are getting little cocky don't you think?

you are nowhere even close to games like Summer's Gone, Beyond Tomorrow, Summer Heat or others that stand out visualy. you prefer quantity over quality that's clear. the only thing I don't understand is why you pretend to do the same job as them when it's not true. you brag about numbers but your game looks like it's from 2005. if you will do the same quality as these devs in the same time you write about then we can discuss

other than that i don't see anyone comparing any games except your fan tslojr
How are you acting like their game looks like crap compared to this? It definitely doesn't the difference isn't really enough to try and justify it as the reason for an extra 2 months between releases
 

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what exactly is ignorant about me having no idea there is game doing such large updates in such short time?


you are the one who brought name of another game here not me


nothing from what i wrote is rude. his game is not on same level as Summer's Gone so why he should push idea into players that everything what takes more than 3 months to update is slow? let's compare it with games having visual quality as TPC do and not with games that stick to the visual top

everyone who understands more than you is rude to you. that's probably why you called someone like Dream dick. right?
Someone else already covered the definition of ignorant, so I won't retread that. As far as me being the one who brought up the name of another game: Hey Den1mo, this you?
I don't believe what you say :ROFLMAO: give me name of game and I'll see for myself but I'm sure it's not true
And to cap off this lovely interaction with you, yeah I called Dream a dick. I called him a dick after he lost his shit on a redditor who wasn't even talking about his game. Any other hard hitting questions you already know the answer to that you'd liked to ask me, cupcake?
 

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How are you acting like their game looks like crap compared to this? It definitely doesn't the difference isn't really enough to try and justify it as the reason for an extra 2 months between releases
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if you can't see the difference see your doctor because you've probably gone blind :ROFLMAO:
 
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you are nowhere even close to games like Summer's Gone, Beyond Tomorrow, Summer Heat or others that stand out visualy. you prefer quantity over quality that's clear.
As a player of both these games and also all the others name bombed here, I have to say a few things:

1- A game is WAY more than pretty visuals (Don't even begin to talk about quality if you don't know what you are saying).

2- A game that updates regularly in a short time is better than one that doesn't. You don't eat 4x a year.

3- A game that gives freedom to players, is a LOT better than one that doesn't. None of the games you mentioned are anywhere near what is done in My Dorm. They are not even in the same category, much less level.

4- A game without content, however pretty the stills, is a very small game. None of the games you mentioned can light a candle near what My Dorm has.

5- No, My Dorm is nowhere near any of those. It is not even in the same fucking galaxy when they haven't even left the ground to "tell a story" that they haven't even started.

6- Visuals without a good solid story is nothing. Nothing. BT has almost no story. SG has, finally. SH has this been updated this year even? If it was I forgot about it.

So, you built up a fort with what you think are Universal Truths. That better graphics is always better. Most of the pretty stills in BT are soulless. They are pretty. But that's all they are.

You are probably very young, if you even think 2005 was a LONG time ago, enough to be insulting.

I'll leave you with this:

Graphics don't make a Game. A story does.

Peace :(
 

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As a player of both these games and also all the others name bombed here, I have to say a few things:

1- A game is WAY more than pretty visuals (Don't even begin to talk about quality if you don't know what you are saying).

2- A game that updates regularly in a short time is better than one that doesn't. You don't eat 4x a year.

3- A game that gives freedom to players, is a LOT better than one that doesn't. None of the games you mentioned are anywhere near what is done in My Dorm. They are not even in the same category, much less level.

4- A game without content, however pretty the stills, is a very small game. None of the games you mentioned can light a candle near what My Dorm has.

5- No, My Dorm is nowhere near any of those. It is not even in the same fucking galaxy when they haven't even left the ground to "tell a story" that they haven't even started.

6- Visuals without a good solid story is nothing. Nothing. BT has almost no story. SG has, finally. SH has this been updated this year even? If it was I forgot about it.

So, you built up a fort with what you think are Universal Truths. That better graphics is always better. Most of the pretty stills in BT are soulless. They are pretty. But that's all they are.

You are probably very young, if you even think 2005 was a LONG time ago, enough to be insulting.

I'll leave you with this:

Graphics don't make a Game. A story does.

Peace :(
this statement is the subject of my reaction nothing else

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this whole statement is one big bullshit and I'm not saying anywhere the mentioned games are better than My Dorm. I'm talking about their visual which is on completely different level and dev who doesn't work at that level can't publicly present such shitty claims because he has no idea what it takes to achieve such results. visual of those games are exactly what takes up the most time

I know almost nothing about rendering so I can't give you any technical answers but I know basics. games like My Dorm do not work with complicated environment, 4k, sub level 3 hd characters or advanced lights, fog, rays and more. it's just basic visual. TPC doesn't do anything like devs of mentioned games do. that's the whole difference and point of why such claims are stupid and you cannot apply them globally but he did

so for the last time - this is not about which game is better but about fact you cannot apply one development process to all games. he is the one who globalized this claim and that's wrong
 
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this statement is the subject of my reaction nothing else

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this whole statement is one big bullshit and I'm not saying anywhere the mentioned games are better than My Dorm. I'm talking about their visual which is on completely different level and dev who doesn't work at that level can't publicly present such shitty claims because he has no idea what it takes to achieve such results. visual of those games are exactly what takes up the most time

I know almost nothing about rendering so I can't give you any technical answers but I know basics. games like My Dorm do not work with complicated environment, 4k, sub level 3 hd characters or advanced lights, fog, rays and more. it's just basic visual. TPC doesn't do anything like devs of mentioned games do. that's the whole difference and point of why such claims are stupid and you cannot apply them globally but he did

so for the last time - this is not about which game is better but about fact you cannot apply one development process to all games. he is the one who globalized this claim and that's wrong
No. YOU are wrong. Graphics are NOT important to a game. If you have to sacrifice the ability to create content, because you are stuck with a 2 hours rendering, you are killing your game.

That's the issue here, you don't understand the first thing about what a game is, yet you attempt to compare apples to oranges.

If a Dev can't produce content, because they are stuck in the making pretty stills that players will look at for 3 seconds and never again, they are not making a game for players. They are making a game for themselves. To be seen as a Portfolio of sorts.

That is NOT what a game is. You simply can't understand the point, and keep claiming that that is what a game is. Visuals only matter up to a point, after that is simply masturbatory material for the Dev. If instead they made 3x the stills with less "quality" they would be able to tell a fucking story in this century.

You not only don't know anything about rendering, you don't anything about what a game even is. You are either making a game, or you are NOT. Pretty slide shows are NOT a game. Especially if you have to wait half a year for them.

Peace :(
 

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No. YOU are wrong. Graphics are NOT important to a game. If you have to sacrifice the ability to create content, because you are stuck with a 2 hours rendering, you are killing your game.
visual is not important for a visual novel? go write books then :ROFLMAO:
 
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I do think stellar visuals like games like this has are not important. I'd still enjoy it if it was just average looking ones. The only time I do think visuals are important is when they are below average and bad to the point it feels unplayable to me. However that is subjective what is bad and what isn't but otherwise not a big deal , compared to everything else that makes a game. However games with amazing visuals stand out to be the most but doesn't mean they are good. I'll play games with really good visuals just for the visuals even if I hate the game.
 
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visual is not important for a visual novel? go write books then :ROFLMAO:
Yeah, life at 13 must be awesome really...

I said:
Visuals only matter up to a point
Not that they are not important.

But now I see you. Now I can see what you are and where you come from. You don't care a single yota for the "Novel" part, only for the "Visual" one. You are one of those functional illiterates that can't read complex sentences.

Yes, I should've known.

Peace :(
 
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I do think stellar visuals like games like this has are not important. I'd still enjoy it if it was just average looking ones. The only time I do think visuals are important is when they are below average and bad to the point it feels unplayable to me. However that is subjective what is bad and what isn't but otherwise not a big deal , compared to everything else that makes a game. However games with amazing visuals stand out to be the most but doesn't mean they are good. I'll play games with really good visuals just for the visuals even if I hate the game.
Kinda agree, I don't mind if visual novel don't have 4K ultra high res detailed renders but, there is huge but for me: Good, interesting, cinematic compositions and photographic, realistic use of depth of field is must nowadays imo. I can't stand dialogue between characters with super busy background with no blur at all. And strange, wide angles which doesn't fit the scene. Thats when quality of visuals really drops for me.
 
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Kinda agree, I don't mind if visual novel don't have 4K ultra high res detailed renders but, there is huge but for me: Good, interesting, cinematic compositions and photographic, realistic use of depth of field is must nowadays imo. I can't stand dialogue between characters with super busy background with no blur at all. And strange, wide angles which doesn't fit the scene. Thats when quality of visuals really drops for me.
For me it depends on how the depth of field is used I hate it. Blur / depth of field to be honest it's the first thing I turn off in any normal video game. However games like this tend to use it in a way that doesn't bother me and used to set up a scene so it works.
 
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As a player of both these games and also all the others name bombed here, I have to say a few things...
The problem, my friend, is that your aggressive advertising has reached the wrong target group. And woe to the developer, whose side you are on, because you are the one who starts throwing shit at the title game of the thread, but the response will not be directed at you, but at the game of the developer you are promoting.

Have you ever seen me write even one negative post in the MyDorm thread? Damn even a one fucking post there? Maybe a negative review? But it looks like we're going to talk about our personal preferences, so...

I started the game you praise, skimmed through a couple of scenes, read a few paragraphs, did a yuck, deleted it and moved on. Obviously, many people like it, well, good for them, why would I spoil their fun and mood with my negativity. But for some reason, in the case of Dream, Ocean and many other good devs, some gentlemen feel unbearable desire to come to their threads and dump a pile there. Must be some weird fetish.
1- A game is WAY more than pretty visuals (Don't even begin to talk about quality if you don't know what you are saying).
Orly? But somehow I'm not convinced. The visuals are just as important as the story. Otherwise, why even bother with such a complex format as AVN. Just write a novel with a few illustrations or a fucking comics. For me, AVN is a mixture of film, novel, computer game and comics. These are the hallmarks of the genre. I can read a book on my Kindle without having to download gigabytes of bad graphics. Or, even better, listen in audio format without breaking my eyes. So please, don't even try to sell me idea that pretty visuals in AVN matter less than a story.
2- A game that updates regularly in a short time is better than one that doesn't. You don't eat 4x a year.
I'd rather eat a good medium-rare steak four times a year than a huge bowl full of pemmican every month. But I don't judge other people's tastes.
3- A game that gives freedom to players, is a LOT better than one that doesn't. None of the games you mentioned are anywhere near what is done in My Dorm. They are not even in the same category, much less level.
Thanks, but I'm a little tired of dating sims. And this freedom is as virtual as the pixel girls on the screen. Your freedom is measured by the number of pre-rendered images the developer has put into the game. When you have seen all the images, your freedom ends there. Unless these images are generated on the fly. But they don't, as far as I know. So I'd rather watch a good movie-like AVN if you don't mind.
4- A game without content, however pretty the stills, is a very small game. None of the games you mentioned can light a candle near what My Dorm has.
Again, the wrong target group. I've seen dozens of renders in MD and read a few paragraphs of the "story". Thanks, not convinced. Next AVN, please.
5- No, My Dorm is nowhere near any of those. It is not even in the same fucking galaxy when they haven't even left the ground to "tell a story" that they haven't even started.
Totally agree with you about the different fucking galaxies. And everything could be fine, we could live in peace. But you arachnids are still throwing asteroids at us earthlings. :KEK:
6- Visuals without a good solid story is nothing. Nothing. BT has almost no story. SG has, finally. SH has this been updated this year even? If it was I forgot about it.
Visuals without a good story are still a fap material. Have you forgot: "this is porn site, if you want a story, go read a book, yada yada." :Kappa:
Jokes aside, stories are different, and I don’t understand why, for example, a dark melodrama is somehow worse than an action movie or a comedy or some super-twisted detective story.

Of course, BT has a plot, it’s just a story at the very beginning, that’s all. But it works great with excellent graphics, fitting soundtrack and appealing characters.
 

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The problem, my friend, is that your aggressive advertising has reached the wrong target group. And woe to the developer, whose side you are on, because you are the one who starts throwing shit at the title game of the thread, but the response will not be directed at you, but at the game of the developer you are promoting.
That's all well and good, except you seem to be forgetting that the only reason that other game was even mentioned in this thread to begin with was because a BT fanboy demanded to know the name of the game and then kept moving the goalposts every time they were proven wrong.
 

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That's all well and good, except you seem to be forgetting that the only reason that other game was even mentioned in this thread to begin with was because a BT fanboy demanded to know the name of the game and then kept moving the goalposts every time they were proven wrong.
So why don't you guys just adjourn to some barren off-topic thread and compare the size of your dicks number of renders there? :KEK:
I can suggest the WiAB off-topic, as Ocean's name suddenly came up in an argument between BT and MD :KEK:
 

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haha this conversation about said other game makes me want to play it even less now it was already pretty low on my list of games anyways with it being a harem and all
 

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That's all well and good, except you seem to be forgetting that the only reason that other game was even mentioned in this thread to begin with was because a BT fanboy demanded to know the name of the game and then kept moving the goalposts every time they were proven wrong.
no discussion existed before your dev came in and started acting like one of the best ever. as long as I get fanboy status just because I point out someone is talking shit I'm happy to accept it :cool:

and believe me or not - fact that another dev will come to another dev's thread to leave some dirt there is the deepest bottom. I'm glad I can delete another game from my list

With love,
your Fanboy ♥

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