Ren'Py Beyond Worlds University [Alpha v2] [Mister Crowne]

[mistercrowne]

whew, a lot of things to catch up on. here we go.
first off, averagejoeworker, sorry I missed your comment earlier somehow. I'll address your points now.

1. Some situations/scenes/relationship levels will have V reject the my offer to undress because she's 'afraid that they are in a public setting' but will gladly 'Lie on her back' where I can move on to sex and, consequently, take off her clothes without her objecting it.

yeah, I should probably 'block' public actions that remove her clothes automatically if her kink is not high enough to remove that clothing piece in public yet. thanks for the heads-up.

2. The principal has a clear set routine that she follows day to day without the ability to interact with her. This will feel less awkward if her figure isn't in her current location and (later on in the relationship with V) me banging V right then and there in front of the principal as if she's not there. (this is probably more on my part for wanting to interact with Orphelia because she's there but the dev cuts in line to say "nah bro this is crazy", it's not a huge complaint but it interrupted the experience a few times)

I made ophelia's schedule pretty soon in development and it just felt like a waste not to use it. I wanted to use her demonstrate how characters other than verity will also wander around campus. she'll have more interactions soon enough, but for now she'll unfortunately have to stay like this lol

3. The plain white text on the top left side of the character in intimate scenes (so just V for now) that describes my actions and V's reaction needs some kind of background coloring or highlight to distinguish itself from some of the more lighter-colored scene such as the library, the outdoor during the day, V's quarter, etc.

good call, I could add the same white box that Verity uses for her in-sex dialogue. I'll write that down.

4. The lake dating sequence and the V's quarter visit sequence were each out of order for me.
- 4.1. For the lake date, I took her to the lake, talked about for a bit and even attempted sex but the date didn't trigger, i figure "oh well, I'll just try again the next day". But as I clicked 'wait' to skip to the next time period, the event triggered (I don't know if this is intended or now so I will just lay it out for the dev).
- 4.2. For the V's quarter visit, towards the end of the Alpha build, I noticed I can suggest going to her quarter to which she agrees only after working hours. I hang about and do the usual 'ritual' (talk, kiss, sex, etc. just to fish some new interactions, and I call it 'ritual' because I repeated a lot of those throughout the map to find most of them have nothing special to them), and when I got to sleep, the screen cut to black and the time period is restart to initiate the 'visiting' event which gave me quite a whiplash (again, I don't know if this is the intended scene sequence order or not).

can you clarify: are the events triggering when you click "wait" or "sleep"? I don't understand how that would be possible, I'm fairly sure I coded the affinity events to only happen when you talk to verity in the specific location and time she gives you.
basically, even if she's in a location outside of the specific time block she specified (morning/noon/afternoon/evening/night), the event won't trigger. if you talk to her at the correct time at the correct place, it will. if this is what is currently happening, it's not a bug.
but I understand that it might be immersion-breaking or off-putting. I'm just not sure how I'd handle fixing that.

bruh that new face is perfect i'm the guy that mentioned a minor complaint about it in your thread you had going on discord she is absolutely delicious but as far as i know i'm the only opinion on that so maybe don't mess with it until a general consensus agrees with the opinion i gave. some people may like the other option so maybe don't rule it out just yet.

oh trust me,

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Sooooo... unfortunately that turned out to be false. I had reached 1000 affinity, 100- kink and -500 Sub/Dom... I had even met her father and she still refused to take it up the bum.

I can guarantee I didn't specifically lock anal behind vaginal in the code, so what could be happening, is that vaginal sex/fingering/cunnilingus and vaginal-specific interactions are currently the only way to reach a "score" high enough for her to accept anal. if so, this was not intentional. I'll look into it, do some testing, and see if the math checks out. if that's the case, I'll tweak the numbers so that she can accept anal before vaginal. I'll be real: I didn't know "anal-only" was a niche, but it was never my intention to cock-block you all lmao

It seems that anal fingering raises kink at the cost of her pleasure, same as anal sex. However licking her anus does nothing. Any chance rimming could also raise her kink stat, or maybe even pleasure? Also, please consider making her start feeling some kind of pleasure from anal sex once her kink and / or submissiveness (negative dominance) stat reaches a certain threshold. And if not for Verity, then maybe at least one of the future (female) LIs could be into butt stuff and gain pleasure from it.

anal sex specifically has an experience system. once per day, when you have anal sex with verity, it will increment a counter. when that counter reaches 4, she starts getting pleasure from anal interactions and her comments about pain become more mild. when it reaches 6+, she starts enjoying it and gaining pleasure from them.
so basically, you have to fuck her ass for 6 days lol
it's a bit grindy, but I thought it made more sense than allowing the exploit of just picking anal, exiting out of sex, entering sex again, picking anal... and so on. it prevents spamming.

One thing that you could do appearance-wise is add the option to ask her to remove her piercings in the appearance section during dialogue.

one of the planned features is to add a wardrobe system where you can pick a LI's clothes and pick days where they'll wear them, etc. so that's definitely in the works.

I have found another minor bug:

Another minor bug I found is that after we go back to the University, after having met her father, she asks us whether we would like to meet at her questers or ours. If we choose her quarters, we do go to her quarters, but as soon as she kisses us as part of the story, we get teleported to our dorm, making this location choice moot LOL. If we choose to fuck in the library, then we correctly stay in the library post-kiss.

thanks for reporting these, I'll look into them.

Where can I find the link to discord?

nope this game is super fresh he doesn't have a disco yet *edit* or if he does i don't know about it

Lastly, please consider creating a Discord server. It may be easier to post all these bug reports and feedback there.

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! but I'm like terrible at managing it. I haven't even posted anything there.
feel free to join and report bugs there, though.

 

[mistercrowne]

by the way, I didn't specifically address all the nice things everyone had to say but I'm incredibly thankful for the generally good reception. thank you all!

 

[Peach Enthusiast]

anal sex specifically has an experience system. once per day, when you have anal sex with verity, it will increment a counter. when that counter reaches 4, she starts getting pleasure from anal interactions and her comments about pain become more mild. when it reaches 6+, she starts enjoying it and gaining pleasure from them.
so basically, you have to fuck her ass for 6 days lol
it's a bit grindy, but I thought it made more sense than allowing the exploit of just picking anal, exiting out of sex, entering sex again, picking anal... and so on. it prevents spamming.

Well, like I said, I had affinity and kink at 1000, met her father, and it still did not work, so unless there are invisible stats, like the 6 anal experience stages you mentioned below, then the only conclusion I can come to is that it is locked behind vaginal penetration. Like i said, after I arrived at that conclusion and tested it, I loaded an earlier save with ~800 affinity and kink and anal was available... right after sticking it in her pussy once in the same scene. And vaginal sex itself seemingly becomes available at 750 affinity.

I can share my saves if need be.

I can guarantee I didn't specifically lock anal behind vaginal in the code, so what could be happening, is that vaginal sex/fingering/cunnilingus and vaginal-specific interactions are currently the only way to reach a "score" high enough for her to accept anal. if so, this was not intentional. I'll look into it, do some testing, and see if the math checks out. if that's the case, I'll tweak the numbers so that she can accept anal before vaginal. I'll be real: I didn't know "anal-only" was a niche, but it was never my intention to cock-block you all lmao

Oh that's interesting. If there is a secret anal experience stat, then that's all fine and good. I'm starting to wonder if you should telegraph what each stat does better. Like when LI refuses to do something, perhaps show a pop-up saying "750 Affinity needed", "750 kink needed", etc. Maybe even show the anal experience bar too...? Unless you intentionally want to keep these requirements a secret. I honestly don't even know what the kink stat and the sub/dom stats do. Only affinity seems to matter.

And yeah, "Anal-only" is a very small niche kink, but there are at least two large threads and several small ones about it here, so it may be an audience boost. As you can imagine, very few games cater to it, but yours is soooo close to having it, that it would be a shame not to remove this one "pussy barrier".

 

[TheDevian]

Cute game so far.

Potential bug.
I asked V to follow me, that night she slept over, and was gone the next morning (it said she left for her office or whatever). But when I left my room, and started to look around, she was still following me (and I have the dismiss option).

If she wakes up in your arms, then I makes sense for her to still be following at that point, but if she left, then I would suggest having to to talk to her again, to get her to follow you again the next day.

Looking forward to the exhibitionism and harem additions later.

 

[Peach Enthusiast]

can you clarify: are the events triggering when you click "wait" or "sleep"? I don't understand how that would be possible, I'm fairly sure I coded the affinity events to only happen when you talk to verity in the specific location and time she gives you.
basically, even if she's in a location outside of the specific time block she specified (morning/noon/afternoon/evening/night), the event won't trigger. if you talk to her at the correct time at the correct place, it will. if this is what is currently happening, it's not a bug.
but I understand that it might be immersion-breaking or off-putting. I'm just not sure how I'd handle fixing that.

I believe it is like I said before:

it seems that she starts handing out there "in the evening", but the date triggers "at midnight"

The issue is that the evening and night look exactly the same and verity starts hanging out at the lake at evening. This tricks people into thinking they have arrived "on time", when they have instead arrived "too early". This is why waiting "fixes it".

You may wanna create a separate slide for the evening and / or make Verity arrive at the lake only at night... Or have her say that the player is early if we show up in the evening.

 

[mistercrowne]

playing catch-up with a few more posts I missed:

When I try to interact during a scene, I get an error screen.

could you paste the error here? I can't really pinpoint the culprit without more information, so I'd appreciate that!

Weird but i don't have any sound

I haven't added sound effects or music to the game *yet*! it's not a huge priority right now but it will get added soon!

Point of critique: Changing location should not cost an AP every time, especially not when there are 16 different locations and no indicator where one may currently encounter events or other characters. *Maybe* group the locations into general regions and make changing regions cost an AP, but I don't think even that will add anything to the game. (Current navigation is obviously placeholder, I assume a rework is already penciled in for one of the next updates)

I have a few things planned that will improve QoL for the navigation! the AP consumption is kind of by design, but in the future you will be able to unlock things that will make navigation easier and less expensive (more AP, ways to tell where LI's are in the map), not to mention that having an actual visual map will help a lot. I know that the menu/submenu solution I have right now is a mess, but as you said yourself, it's a placeholder. stay with me a few more updates!

Well, like I said, I had affinity and kink at 1000, met her father, and it still did not work, so unless there are invisible stats, like the 6 anal experience stages you mentioned below, then the only conclusion I can come to is that it is locked behind vaginal penetration. Like i said, after I arrived at that conclusion and tested it, I loaded an earlier save with ~800 affinity and kink and anal was available... right after sticking it in her pussy once in the same scene. And vaginal sex itself seemingly becomes available at 750 affinity.

okay so, I'm in my self-imposed off day because working on this every day was driving me crazy, but I had to check this lmao
verity will accept/refuse all of your sexual advances based on a points system (internally it's called the 'flirt score'. don't ask, it was just a behind-the-scenes name that stuck lol).
if you want specific details about how things work under the hood:

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each sexual interaction has a "difficulty class" - if you ever played dnd you know what this is, but basically it's how many points you need for a "success". it just so happens that the DC for anal is 100, and the most you can get without doing *anything* vaginal-related is 95 or so.
again, this was not by design, and it's easy to fix. I'll tweak the anal DC down a bit (or I can 'override' the DC if her kink is high enough and you've never done vaginal, that could work too). in any case, it'll be fixed by next build.

The issue is that the evening and night look exactly the same and verity starts hanging out at the lake at evening. This tricks people into thinking they have arrived "on time", when they have instead arrived "too early". This is why waiting "fixes it".

You may wanna create a separate slide for the evening and / or make Verity arrive at the lake only at night... Or have her say that the player is early if we show up in the evening.

okay, that makes sense. I was just confused by the idea of the event triggering when you click "wait" specifically, because that would make 0 sense. the wait button doesn't have any checks for events so that would mean I fucked something up pretty badly in the code lmao
I'll see about tweaking the visuals for evening/night backgrounds to see if people get less confused lol

Potential bug.
I asked V to follow me, that night she slept over, and was gone the next morning (it said she left for her office or whatever). But when I left my room, and started to look around, she was still following me (and I have the dismiss option).

If she wakes up in your arms, then I makes sense for her to still be following at that point, but if she left, then I would suggest having to to talk to her again, to get her to follow you again the next day.

thanks for reporting that, I'll write it down and see if I can fix it.

 

[TheDevian]

thanks for reporting that, I'll write it down and see if I can fix it.

Happy to help where I can.

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[Peach Enthusiast]

okay so, I'm in my self-imposed off day because working on this every day was driving me crazy, but I had to check this lmao
verity will accept/refuse all of your sexual advances based on a points system (internally it's called the 'flirt score'. don't ask, it was just a behind-the-scenes name that stuck lol).
if you want specific details about how things work under the hood:

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each sexual interaction has a "difficulty class" - if you ever played dnd you know what this is, but basically it's how many points you need for a "success". it just so happens that the DC for anal is 100, and the most you can get without doing *anything* vaginal-related is 95 or so.
again, this was not by design, and it's easy to fix. I'll tweak the anal DC down a bit (or I can 'override' the DC if her kink is high enough and you've never done vaginal, that could work too). in any case, it'll be fixed by next build.

Oh, thank you so much for checking this out under the hood. I'm glad that I wasn't missing something on my end. I look forward to the new build.

anal sex specifically has an experience system. once per day, when you have anal sex with verity, it will increment a counter. when that counter reaches 4, she starts getting pleasure from anal interactions and her comments about pain become more mild. when it reaches 6+, she starts enjoying it and gaining pleasure from them.
so basically, you have to fuck her ass for 6 days lol

So I tested that out just now and it works. Eventually she does start feeling pleasure from anal sex and anal fingering, as opposed to losing pleasure. However licking her asshole remains neutral. it never lost any pleasure and it still gains nothing after 6 days. Any chance you could make her gain pleasure from rimming too, please?

I've subscribed, since you've been so responsive and receptive to my feedback.

 

[TheDevian]

Sheets, at the lake? lol

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[TheDevian]

Also, here it says the MC is deep inside her, when they are grinding.

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[guanciale]

This is going to be one fine game ! The Goth is gorgeous, not a beauty but absolutely hot and sexy !
There a a few bugs, optical glitches, placeholders and incoherent dialogue, but that is kinda normal for first releases and
still the game is fun to play. Looking forward to the next updates...
THX to the Dev for all the work and for uploading in this controversial place ! Hope for the best.

 

[Anon29938]

Things that are done well with this build:

Going deep rather than wide (a lot of content for a single character, feels like you're playing a micro game and not an incremental update)

Art and modularity of appearance are good

Solid characterization, and varied character design (from the two that we've seen so far)

Things that can be improved:

The rate at which you acquire affinity/kink/sub/dom points is good for a game with more content, but when you have only one character with a finished path it feels a little grindy since they're the only thing you're interacting with

Personally I'd like to see some more intense kink/bdsm/rough sex dialogue, for instance you can go ass to mouth (pretty taboo extreme for most people) but there's no dialogue acknowledging this. Also the sub/dom vibes are pretty muted, even for lighter kink stuff. You could add more dialogue/rewrite some dialogue to make it feel like more of a factor on your relationship even without getting into more extreme kink stuff

The UI is a bit clunky, sometimes when you get into a sub menu during a sex scene you can't exit the menu by clicking outside the menu. In the same vein, it would be nice to have the option of initiating conversation with a character by simply clicking on them, rather than having to open the "talk" menu. Same thing with stripping off items of clothing. In short, streamlining the menus and UI would be a very welcome change


All in all, this is a very solid start, and I'm looking forward to seeing where this goes.

 

[Gojii]

alter your physicality

Can you perhaps... alter their "attributes" as well?

 

[Dragknight01]

O

 

[Setios]

классная игруха при том что это только альфа

 

[Zoey Quartz]

so fuckin cool that not only do I have to worry about garbage ai ""art"" infecting all my games, NOW I gotta stay ever-vigilant for games coded by ai that are literally straight up unplayable while the ""dev"" attempts to patch it into a playable state in real time...

if this site doesn't set some goddamn standards soon, it's gonna be a fucking wasteland.

 

[TheDevian]

so fuckin cool that not only do I have to worry about garbage ai ""art"" infecting all my games, NOW I gotta stay ever-vigilant for games coded by ai that are literally straight up unplayable while the ""dev"" attempts to patch it into a playable state in real time...

if this site doesn't set some goddamn standards soon, it's gonna be a fucking wasteland.

I don't know what you are talking about, this plays just fine, it has a few minor bugs (mostly text), but I have seen nothing that prevents the game from playing so far.

It might help if you say what you had a problem with, and maybe it could get fixed.

 

[atomicdude357]

"What are your preferred pronouns?"
And it's a wrap, ladies and gentlemen, I'm out.

what a retard lmao

 

[Cavpal]

what a retard lmao

Agreed, but you should not be so hard on yourself.