Ren'Py Big Brother: Another Story Rebuild [v0.04.02] [Aleksey90]

[HillDweller]

1) Any changes in the save files will invalidate the save file.

2) In this version of the game, you cannot use other people's save files to play.

you can no longer share saves, because the saves have been encrypted. Enjoy that wonderful idea

It doesn't appear to be explicit by this game's dev - it's base Ren'py engine functionality starting from 8.1.x, for "security reasons" (see below), and Ren'py version changed from 8.0.3 to 8.1.1 in this latest game version. Again I don't think the version upgrade was explicitly intended by the dev to mess with save loading; they likely upgraded for other reasons.

Saves use Python pickle format which can be abused maliciously (and I've seen exploit proof-of-concepts being posted online), so apparently the Ren'py developers have deprecated sharing saves altogether; see also:
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This has been reported here too:

It appears that as of Ren'Py 8.1 there is an addition to the code called Save Security Token. The token checks to see if the save file being used originated from the same computer as the token written upon game start. It asks if the user trusts the save file YES/NO. It also checks for editing of the save file and will not load a save if it was edited with either Ren'Py Save Editor or saveeditonline.com. One can still use unren to enable the console and alter variables. I am hoping someone will be able to find away around the new code to enable the use of this and other save editors again.

Like the person above says, when loading unaltered foreign saves, you'll get a warning that the save has been created in another device, and a yes/no prompt to continue loading. You have to explicitly answer yes for each new device from which you want to load saves.

That said, you CAN share saves, as long as they're unaltered externally (from outside the game, like in save editors). Messing with the console and then saving is OK though.

False alarm for the most part.

 

[Javichu]

please a save game with persistent document in other case it don't function

 

[Deleted member 2755092]

I was about to share the link to your post in the other thread in here.
This is going to be problematic for many ren'py games with heavy grind going forward.

Thank you for letting us know! I totally believed Aleksey made that choice, so I apologize for that.

 

[HillDweller]

I accidentally posted it in the other thread but intended to post it here, d'oh.

If you can read Python code, it's more or less easy to figure out how to hack saves by altering variables from the Ren'py console (which can more or less trivially be re-enabled even when explicitly disabled by game devs), and this won't trigger the protection mechanism because it still will be a clean save, unaltered outside of the game.

Because of that, I don't think the community loses out too much by not being to use Save Edit Online. People can still console-hack and share saves, and it's just an extra yes/no prompt to load these foreign saves.

Unfortunately the security concern is still there, and it's hard to properly fix unless the engine developers completely rework the save/load serialization (not trivial).

 

[sidfu]

so 3 years to get to .02 this means to get to .1 just a tenth of the way there will take 15 years. and it twill take 150 years to get to 1.0

 

[dreamlord666]

dead game

 

[Deleted member 2755092]

I accidentally posted it in the other thread but intended to post it here, d'oh.

If you can read Python code, it's more or less easy to figure out how to hack saves by altering variables from the Ren'py console (which can more or less trivially be re-enabled even when explicitly disabled by game devs), and this won't trigger the protection mechanism because it still will be a clean save, unaltered outside of the game.

Because of that, I don't think the community loses out too much by not being to use Save Edit Online. People can still console-hack and share saves, and it's just an extra yes/no prompt to load these foreign saves.

Unfortunately the security concern is still there, and it's hard to properly fix unless the engine developers completely rework the save/load serialization (not trivial).

It depends though.
Some games are heavy on the grind, and being able to mark some quests as complete, was quite often a blessing.
The console is not always easy to use though, the save editor really was easy to use

Guess the modders have their work cut out for them, we'll need to be able to edit shit from the games themselves now

 

[JohnHamm]

I just downoaded and extracted the assets of this to see where its up to, is it really barely started? It looked like there has been practically no progress

 

[velass]

Any new event soon?

 

[waltage]

so much rebuilds so i don't need even read the text to understand story

 

[Bfrop]

"Thanks for the money guys"



Alexy is such a charming guy.

 

[lodu_1]

"Thanks for the money guys"

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Alexy is such a charming guy.

how to get money in this game easily and free

 

[troll822]

How far does this update takes the story?
Is there any sex in it, or just spying?

 

[Javichu]

why he don't continue Big Brother: Another Story v0.09.2.03 ?

 

[Nemo56]

no fuckin way, the reboot of the reboot of the reboot. people still give money to these guys?!

I am actually more amazed that you only learned about it now. People have been complaining for over a year.

 

[Mee&Mee]

Imagine requesting to remove my comment just cuz I want to see a movie made by netflix about this "game", how can that be off topic if this is a joke of "game"? what a snowflakes

 

[Nemo56]

why he don't continue Big Brother: Another Story v0.09.2.03 ?

Well, nothing absolutely official, but ...
Mostly technical reasons, the game was structured too complex (layers and the code for them) and very expensive to maintain, each shot required too much work. Also he didn't like the old renders and wanted create new ones with the new models.
And since the previous version DID actually start as a remake of the original story with some changes, he wasn't really happy with the early content.

 

[Javichu]

Well, nothing absolutely official, but ...
Mostly technical reasons, the game was structured too complex (layers and the code for them) and very expensive to maintain, each shot required too much work. Also he didn't like the old renders and wanted create new ones with the new models.
And since the previous version DID actually start as a remake of the original story with some changes, he wasn't really happy with the early content.

it sounds me like the real developer with it's illegal fuck your mom and lets begin again and waste of time. About the game its awesome and really nice

 

[NecromeN]

How many subscribers did Aleksey90 lose from patreon and boosty after the new update?And remember that he promised the end of the summer to make an update catching up with the last game.Although yes, he did not specify what year the summer was. But still, another promise that he did not fulfill.

 

[Nemo56]

it sounds me like the real developer with it's illegal fuck your mom and lets begin again and waste of time. About the game its awesome and really nice

Alexey puts a lot of effort into the details and people always complained that he was progressing too slowly, so he had to find a way to make his vision come true without creating another Glamour while increasing productivity. If that played out, we'll see over time.
I personally don't really mind if it's taking a couple of more years if the end product is good. I have no rush.