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Ren'Py Big Brother: Another Story Rebuild [v0.07.01] [Aleksey90]
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I agree that he does quality work. I'm just questioning whether the amount of effort put into multiple clothing options pays off if the girl is not doing anything different when wearing those different outfits. Maybe that's something a lot of people are into and I'm in the minority. If that's the case, no problem. I do still like the game. For that matter, maybe HE has some kind of clothing fetish and if that's the case then he should definitely keep doing whatever he personally finds enjoyable. IMO that's critical to your game being successful. If you personally aren't into the game you're developing then it's pretty much guaranteed not to be much good.
I'm just saying lets say it takes him 10 hours to do the renders, writing, and coding for 1 scene with 2 outfits. So 30 hours gets us 3 scenes. Lets say that same scene only would have taken 7 hours with 1 outfit. That means if he had only done 1 clothing option for each scene we'd get 4 scenes out of him in 30 hours instead of only 3. We'd be getting more content with the same amount of development time. We'd probably even get the same outfits, just not multiples in 1 scene. She's wearing that outfit in a different room doing something else instead. We get a different interaction with her in that other room on top of also seeing her in a different outfit.
I see a ton of people complaining about his slow development cycle on this forum, and the multiple outfits are a significant contributing factor to that IMO. It takes extra render time to render those outfits even if you render them separately. It also takes a lot more work in the code to keep swapping outfits for the same scene than it does to only use 1. When I was doing that for my mod I used condition switches so that my code for the actual events was identical to what it would have been with only 1 outfit, but it still required me to define every individual image as well as include logic to tell the game when to use each outfit. With only 1 outfit none of that logic is needed and I wouldn't have even needed to define the images. That's hundreds of lines of code that would have been completely unnecessary for the exact same scenes if I was only using 1 outfit.
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I've seen a lot of complaining about the development speed in about every game's forum, even for the games that have a rather fast update rhythm. People complain, that's what they do.
You don't need a clothing fetish to add clothing options. He obviously thinks this is good for his game, since he included this from the start, so he should do it. As you said, doing something he doesn't like won't do any good.
He doesn't need us wise guys to tell him how to get more proress in a short amount of time, I am sure he is aware of how to do it. Who thinks he knows how to do it better can always try to create his own game.
Also the clothing is part of the gameplay. In certain situations, Alice has to be topless or nude for something to happen. For one couch event she must not wear panties, another event she will abort if she doesn't. Lisa will be topless at the TV if Max behaves, will keep her top on when Max was not friendly during the week. Certain actions require Max to wear a shirt, others require him to not wear it.
And it's not just about clothing. Many repeatable scenes also have different poses. Alone the already named "open Lisa's door" scene has several different poses, her and Olivia sunbathing also shows different combinations of poses, chosen randomly.
Yes, we'd get faster progression, but if that costs us the feeling this game gives, then I'll give that a pass. Here I get work with a lot of love for detail, that's somthing harder to find. I am very interested in seeing where the journey goes.
There's enough uninspired shovelware VNs out there already ... and Glamour.
You don't need a clothing fetish to add clothing options. He obviously thinks this is good for his game, since he included this from the start, so he should do it. As you said, doing something he doesn't like won't do any good.
He doesn't need us wise guys to tell him how to get more proress in a short amount of time, I am sure he is aware of how to do it. Who thinks he knows how to do it better can always try to create his own game.
Also the clothing is part of the gameplay. In certain situations, Alice has to be topless or nude for something to happen. For one couch event she must not wear panties, another event she will abort if she doesn't. Lisa will be topless at the TV if Max behaves, will keep her top on when Max was not friendly during the week. Certain actions require Max to wear a shirt, others require him to not wear it.
And it's not just about clothing. Many repeatable scenes also have different poses. Alone the already named "open Lisa's door" scene has several different poses, her and Olivia sunbathing also shows different combinations of poses, chosen randomly.
Yes, we'd get faster progression, but if that costs us the feeling this game gives, then I'll give that a pass. Here I get work with a lot of love for detail, that's somthing harder to find. I am very interested in seeing where the journey goes.
There's enough uninspired shovelware VNs out there already ... and Glamour.
Hah, yeah I was shocked at how bad Glamour is after trying it again recently. DS is going backwards in quality IMO. The original BB is far superior to Glamour, and Aleksy's version of BB is superior to the original if you're comparing BB at a similar stage of progression. In Glamour, all of Max's family are basically just mindless fucktoys. Basically no story and no justification. Max might as well have Mind Control powers.
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Hey fella's, I saw in the Walkthrough that there is no way to switch the Eric path. I started as friendship path with the intent to kick him out later. Is that still possible or not? Kinda reluctant to play much more on this save if I am stuck with Eric forever.
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The answer is yes and no.
Yes, it would have been possible if the development was continued on this game version. At some point it would have been Eric or Max, since Eric would try to backstab Max even on friendship path.
No, since it's not yet implemented and you will have to start a new game when the next version comes out (see posts above). What happens in that one ... who knows? Someone said that one of the two Eric paths will be removed from the game, but so far it's all just rumors.
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Crap that's unfortunate... Not even by cheating you reckon? In the original game there was a cheat to just trigger Eric leaving...
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Of course there is. The whole game is controlled by a set of variables, including the path you have chosen. Switching path is possible by changing the variables. But a) I don't know which ones you need to change and b) this will most likely cause bugs and corrupt your savegame. You are better off by just restarting.
On a personal note: You are a very bad friend to Eric
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I don’t know code but thinking from a gameplay pov that would insistently break your game because he’s already gone on the war path. You’ll find crashes (I’m guessing) where the game says Eric is suppose to be there but he’s not. Purely guessing here.
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Back then it also bugged the original game. Story arcs where Eric was supposed to be part of would not continue.
Luckily most of the game pretty much ignores Eric and "most" story arcs would play without problems.
But in BIBOAS the different opportunities often depend on each other so I could not really predict which parts this would affect.
Luckily most of the game pretty much ignores Eric and "most" story arcs would play without problems.
But in BIBOAS the different opportunities often depend on each other so I could not really predict which parts this would affect.
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Sorry but is there a walkthrough for unlocking all of the clothing in the main menu for the game extra?
I remember seeing someone posted a walkthrough while back but I cannot seem to find it atm.
I remember seeing someone posted a walkthrough while back but I cannot seem to find it atm.
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Look for "cookies" in the game's walkthrough posted by BlackPanther.
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Some News:
About the game, I can only say that in the Remastered version of the game players will face almost a new game.
The changes in the game are not small.
The game will not be repetitive and boring for players who are worried about starting the game from the beginning.
Players will also see changes in the game process and this will not end only in the game images .
winterballoon:
I just saw the news. What does this mean as far as how long it will take
Aleksey90:
Another week or two
winterballoon:
what days of the game are gonna be in this update
Aleksey90:
The 1st update is the first game day. It is necessary to familiarize players with all the changes. If all is well, you can move on.
About the game, I can only say that in the Remastered version of the game players will face almost a new game.
The changes in the game are not small.
The game will not be repetitive and boring for players who are worried about starting the game from the beginning.
Players will also see changes in the game process and this will not end only in the game images .
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I just saw the news. What does this mean as far as how long it will take
Aleksey90:
Another week or two
winterballoon:
what days of the game are gonna be in this update
Aleksey90:
The 1st update is the first game day. It is necessary to familiarize players with all the changes. If all is well, you can move on.
If I got it right then.
It sounds pretty bad if the pace is the same as now, it will take several years to catch up with the current version on the progress
After the release of the new version, the main question will again be when it will be possible to get rid of Eric.