Ren'Py Big Brother: Another Story Rebuild [v0.07.01] [Aleksey90]

[Nemo56]

It's actually V2 of his work, he already changed lighting and everything. The first part of the legacy version looks a lot different.
Maybe this is how he wants to do it?

The good thing about his current file structure is that he can replace elements of a image without redoing everything. We'll see where it goes.

 

[EberhardtNeun]

I don't post much, but I wanted to emphasize & re-iterate on something that Mysters90 mentioned.

No one would be minding it much, if the content came out at decent speed. Maybe not very fast, but at least consistently and similar to before the rework.
But despite promising that "the rework is gonna make it look so much better, and it will be so much easier to create the scenes" (roughly quoted fromthe statement about why we are reworking a recreation of a re-imagination of the continuation of a game from years ago...) the progress has slowed to a crawl, the quality is maybe marginally better - if at all.
Catching up with the status of the legacy version seems like an impossible task. And that was announced to happen within a year, if I remember correctly?!
So now, it really just seems to be an infinite time sink where, if (!) we ever get a completed experience, it will probably be after GTA seven.

 

[Mysters90]

It's actually V2 of his work, he already changed lighting and everything. The first part of the legacy version looks a lot different.
Maybe this is how he wants to do it?

The good thing about his current file structure is that he can replace elements of a image without redoing everything. We'll see where it goes.

No, it's still the same. Lighting problems in the form of diffuse light and incorrect colour balance.
If Angelo Badalamenti's composition were used here, it would be a real "Twin Peaks". Because everything is done in dark colours.
A few screenshots for comparison:

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It's like comparing the detail of 4K and 1080P images. It should be the other way around
And I have to quote the developer again:

I would build the game first. And already when it is fully ready and properly lined up, then you can update the graphics in parallel with another project.

I'd be willing to give a damn about the wait if the artist appreciated the detail in the images. He used to, but now he probably doesn't care.
Technology advances and we get soap

 

[Nemo56]

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Ok, should not have said "first", but "early". He changed the model during the development of the legacy version and replaced a bunch of renders. I think the one with Lisa in the bath is still original in 0.9.

I am not completely happy with the new style either, especially the "wet" pics in the shower or at the pool look a bit strange, way too shiny.
The 'flat' look .. I'm ok with that. A little stronger shadows would have been nice, but it's definitly better than the old shots were.
While I defnitly also play this game for the visuals (# NeedMoreAlice!), they are not the most imortant aspect for me.

 

[JeffM80]

I don't post much, but I wanted to emphasize & re-iterate on something that Mysters90 mentioned.

No one would be minding it much, if the content came out at decent speed. Maybe not very fast, but at least consistently and similar to before the rework.
But despite promising that "the rework is gonna make it look so much better, and it will be so much easier to create the scenes" (roughly quoted fromthe statement about why we are reworking a recreation of a re-imagination of the continuation of a game from years ago...) the progress has slowed to a crawl, the quality is maybe marginally better - if at all.
Catching up with the status of the legacy version seems like an impossible task. And that was announced to happen within a year, if I remember correctly?!
So now, it really just seems to be an infinite time sink where, if (!) we ever get a completed experience, it will probably be after GTA seven.

The worst thing is, all the poses for the characters are purchased (specifically the sexy ones) so they take 5 seconds to apply.
The characters are taken straight from the BB Fan Art thread.
The story is just the original.
Much of the dialogue is stolen from the original (don't know if that's the case in the Russian version).
Guy has people on their knees to test for him.

He doesn't exactly have much to do. It's not like he's doing anything special code-wise.
Even his preview images are low-effort. Un-rendered DAZ scenes? Seriously? Who posts those?

Aleksey still has more content in the Fan Art thread than his game. It's been years...
(Also said content looks better because he hadn't fucked up the lighting yet)

 

[Mysters90]

Well an update is scheduled for around the end of next week.....
In the meantime, testing of Bad Bobby Saga starts today.
And something tells me that even the barely breathing RAinces project will be released before the BBAS update.

 

[jan^s]

Your best move right now is playing the legacy version and hope that your kids will be able to play the finished rebuild during their lifetime.

Correct me if I am wrong but it is not complete as well, I mean yes there is more content but not a complete project - story - game also no happy fun times; right?

 

[Nemo56]

Correct me if I am wrong but it is not complete as well, I mean yes there is more content but not a complete project - story - game also no happy fun times; right?

Yep. Alice has some sex scenes, but never going further than a BJ.

 

[troll822]

Well an update is scheduled for around the end of next week.....

I will believe it, when I see it.

 

[jan^s]

So could this be classified as a perpetual project never really meant to be finished?
I really do appreciate devs (I can count on one hand the devs) who state intended goals with a mind set of completion not reiteration.

Asking for JSWI...

 

[raif78]

So could this be classified as a perpetual project never really meant to be finished?
I really do appreciate devs (I can count on one hand the devs) who state intended goals with a mind set of completion not reiteration.

Asking for JSWI...

The dev isn't going to come out and say he intends to keep on remaking the same RenPy game until people stop paying, but most WEG don't get finished - so I'm sure you can figure out what's likely to happen with this game that has two or three remakes running at the same time.

 

[Mysters90]

So could this be classified as a perpetual project never really meant to be finished?
I really do appreciate devs (I can count on one hand the devs) who state intended goals with a mind set of completion not reiteration.

Asking for JSWI...

Let's look at the numbers.
The first update to Chapter 1 was almost one year ago.
By the end of the month, they promise a fourth update of Chapter 1. Then two more updates, and Chapter 1 is complete.
So, if nothing changes, Chapter 1 will be out in its entirety for a year and a half.
According to preliminary estimates, they plan to release 5 Chapters in total.
1.5x5=7.5 years.
A year has passed, and there are only 6.5 years left.))

If anything, these are just statistics.

 

[elbro]

So could this be classified as a perpetual project never really meant to be finished?
I really do appreciate devs (I can count on one hand the devs) who state intended goals with a mind set of completion not reiteration.

Asking for JSWI...

Because of the game format of being a boy who conquers the women of the house, it ends when he conquers them all, so there is end to it, but does the creator of the game really want to finish this project? If he were a talented game creator he would finish this game and create another one but it seems like he wants to keep this project alive for a long time.

 

[wd1111]

Let's look at the numbers.
The first update to Chapter 1 was almost one year ago.
By the end of the month, they promise a fourth update of Chapter 1. Then two more updates, and Chapter 1 is complete.
So, if nothing changes, Chapter 1 will be out in its entirety for a year and a half.
According to preliminary estimates, they plan to release 5 Chapters in total.
1.5x5=7.5 years.
A year has passed, and there are only 6.5 years left.))

If anything, these are just statistics.

your numbers may turn out to be off if he starts milking another cow...

 

[JeffM80]

Let's look at the numbers.
The first update to Chapter 1 was almost one year ago.
By the end of the month, they promise a fourth update of Chapter 1. Then two more updates, and Chapter 1 is complete.
So, if nothing changes, Chapter 1 will be out in its entirety for a year and a half.
According to preliminary estimates, they plan to release 5 Chapters in total.
1.5x5=7.5 years.
A year has passed, and there are only 6.5 years left.))

If anything, these are just statistics.

Keep in mind that games which aren't purely linear get more complicated as they are updated and therefore take longer and longer to make.

 

[2dark2]

Something is known about how the chapters will be organized, will they be in the same game or will each chapter be a new game?
If the second, then it may be preparation to then sell several games on steam and not one.

 

[Nemo56]

Something is known about how the chapters will be organized, will they be in the same game or will each chapter be a new game?
If the second, then it may be preparation to then sell several games on steam and not one.

So far I'd say it's not a new game for every chapter. If it will be organized in seasons like so many others, is unknown.
And it's also unknown if he'll go to Steam or GOG or itch or any other commercial platform in the first place. If it will be Steam only, for me there is no reason to buy.

 

[Mysters90]

News on v0.04​

Now we are implementing the latest improvements to update the game to v0.04. I'll be posting release dates in a few days. It's coming...

 

[gukak091]

+1

 

[Kojj4]

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