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WhiteFireDaemon

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Do we have any idea what to expect in this update? I'm kind of looking forward to seeing some of the NTR content with Eric being added. Hoping it will be done better than it was in the original game.
 
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always86

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Do we have any idea what to expect in this update? I'm kind of looking forward to seeing some of the NTR content with Eric being added. Hoping it will be done better than it was in the original game.
I think he said progress with the main story plus progress with the massages. Also appears other events have been added like the shower with Kira and the ‘blog’ story. The cameras should also be properly implemented. Quite a bit of stuff over all.

To those complaining about the release schedule - If you aren’t a Patreon, don’t be stupid. By the 21st he will have released 5 significant updates to the game in a little over 9 months. Sure we’d all like it to be quicker, but you know what could help with that? Supporting his Patreon.
 

gestved

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The opportunity with Alice about giving her sweets after being caught spying is bugged, if you try to give her sweets after breakfast you can't give her sweets anymore, and the same thing is happening with Lisa, but with Lisa you can give her sweets before breakfast, so it still works, but Alice is never available before breakfast, so I can't progress. Maybe it was fixed in the 0.9 bugfix, I didn't have it up until now and I haven't tested again yet.

Anyway it's being a nightmare to trigger being caught, I focused too much in getting all cameras as soon as possible, while training spying and persuasion, and now I have more than 70% chance to not get caught, and most negative outcomes are just Alice or Lisa being suspicious, maybe the dev could include an option to getting caught on purpose. I loved the changes with Lisa, Alice and Kira taking baths together, but it's just even more annoying to get the specific sister alone AND being caught on top of that.

Pretty good "remake" of the original, render are on par or even better, and so many common sense additions that makes you wonder how the fuck dark silver never implemented them, the original had some pretty good ideas but it felt pretty lazy sometimes, most sex scenes were pretty underwhelming, with one or two renders to describe a full sexual act. I hope there is no plans to make it multiple routes like the original, I really liked Lisa and Olivia, as well as classes with Kira, separating these on routes was just a big mistake, as well as naked yoga with Ann
 
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Seraphi23

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I think having an antagonist is great to keep you on your toes as added motivation to keep other guys away from your harem, with consequences like only getting NTR’d if you don’t keep ‘em happy so they have no reason to stray unless you’re into that.
This is exactly how it did work in the original.
 

SDaddy666

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can't wait for this game and thread to become big enough so mods step in and ban NTR and eric discussion for good smh
 

armion82

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Many would want to kick Eric because they want to get the girls for themselves, not because of the game over, your ideas may be nice to a NTR game, but having Eric gets the girls don't work for most of the people, only to those who like NTR. Your "two paths" seems the same, because in both Eric wins and after he got with all the girls and Max needs the help of Kira, like in the original, to get rid of him.

Having an antagonist is nice, but only if you can shomehow prevent him from winning, in porn games that traduces to avoid the antagonist getting the girls. One of the things many want to see from this "remake" is Max getting rid of Eric without help from others, only the people that like NTR would pick the path where Eric gets the girls, so if you were ever to make a game having those two "paths", only people that like NTR would play it. Because in both your "paths" the MC loses the girls to Eric and can't kick Eric by himself, so he would have been a beta looser that watches Eric fuck around until he with Kira's help kick him. So yeah, nice story you made, but it would be a bad way of using an antagonist, because of the forced NTR.
Actually I bet many will be happy if the girls together kick out Eric.First some humiliation and then throw him from the roof.
 
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armion82

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There is one thing I don't like about this idea.
The building they live in is too low.
Sure,but Max can buy some piranhas and put them in the pool.In that case it won't matter how low is the building.
That reminds me of one flawless victory on tournament game-book.
 

Crimsonfiend76

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So if giving sweets to Alice is bugged, is that going to prevent me from triggering other scenes in the future? Just wondering if I need to start over. Kinda don’t want to since I’m 73 days in and only now making progress with Kira and Lisa.
 

HVS3

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to those who want to critize the dev
my understanding from reading his page & the entire forum
dev is doing this as a hoppy & is not very experinced in making a game
dev said with more support the more time he will put into making game
dev never promised monthly updates
dev is doing all work himself art, programming, & script
dev got sick with virus which if survive will be months immune system with be screwed up, making it easy to get sick or food poisioning
update .4 was a quick release after he got better from virus, that update ended up being very buggy
so for me i rather the dev take time on release on an update so that it can b a good release
this game is in my opion a very dificulte game to make bc it is a new style game( one i like to think of as a pupet style game, where mc is the pupet master of eric bc mc choices determine what eric does)
 

gestved

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finished all content and I'm impressed, when it came out I thought was most people thought, another big brother game, but this one is a much better version than the original, the different poses while spying makes the grind more interesting (it became old son seeing the same render over and over in the original), the different outfits and how switching them can alter a scene, like how telling Alice to not wear panties alter her after club scene.

Not only that but there is already a bunch of great scenes with Kira, and it just boggles my mind thinking why the fuck this was not the case in the original, she was the most sexually active character, is the character with whom Max loses his virginity, had all that teasing in her late night scenes, but the only person that got some real action at them was Eric. I'm already looking forward for the pool scenes. Also, massages being expanded, now you can massage Kira and Lisa as well, very common sense

Dark Silver was often very stingy with render angles, it seemed to me that he was doing his best to hide the characters bodies from the players, this is not the case in this version, great renders, pretty good angles, good variety, as it should be.

Looking forward to the next version
 
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SDaddy666

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to those who want to critize the dev
my understanding from reading his page & the entire forum
dev is doing this as a hoppy & is not very experinced in making a game
dev said with more support the more time he will put into making game
dev never promised monthly updates
dev is doing all work himself art, programming, & script
dev got sick with virus which if survive will be months immune system with be screwed up, making it easy to get sick or food poisioning
update .4 was a quick release after he got better from virus, that update ended up being very buggy
so for me i rather the dev take time on release on an update so that it can b a good release
this game is in my opion a very dificulte game to make bc it is a new style game( one i like to think of as a pupet style game, where mc is the pupet master of eric bc mc choices determine what eric does)
Agree on all of that, but I still think 0.5 will be as buggy. That's on the lack of experience and not the virus to me.
 

Krugger

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Many would want to kick Eric because they want to get the girls for themselves, not because of the game over, your ideas may be nice to a NTR game, but having Eric gets the girls don't work for most of the people, only to those who like NTR. Your "two paths" seems the same, because in both Eric wins and after he got with all the girls and Max needs the help of Kira, like in the original, to get rid of him.

Having an antagonist is nice, but only if you can shomehow prevent him from winning, in porn games that traduces to avoid the antagonist getting the girls. One of the things many want to see from this "remake" is Max getting rid of Eric without help from others, only the people that like NTR would pick the path where Eric gets the girls, so if you were ever to make a game having those two "paths", only people that like NTR would play it. Because in both your "paths" the MC loses the girls to Eric and can't kick Eric by himself, so he would have been a beta looser that watches Eric fuck around until he with Kira's help kick him. So yeah, nice story you made, but it would be a bad way of using an antagonist, because of the forced NTR.
I know about that. The two paths seem to be the same, but one is different from the other. I just did a summary, but perhaps a function for Max to sabotage Eric's relationship with his sisters could be implemented to keep him away from them, thus avoiding the NTR if the player didn't want to see it.
So, this is a story and the story has to make a little more sense. Eric has to play the role of antagonist, the two paths follow a logic of what the player will want. I just made a short summary, but the story would be different, I also made the two paths become similar, because nobody likes to play a game that you have to keep grinding. So, what I wanted to say is that if you wanted to be friends with Eric you would see X content, Eric would share Ann and Alice (maybe Kira too?). If you would choose to be Eric's enemy, you would have Ann, Alice, Kira and Lisa. But of course, since you're at war with the character, there will be ways to sabotage him.

The MC will not lose the girls to him, you have to remember that this is a porn game, and I already said that the MC will kick him out of the house, because I don't see much point in staying with Eric for a long time in the game. You'll see the same porn content with another character for a while, how bad is it? Yes, there are people who don't like it. But why then did put the character in the game? because it would make sense in the story. It doesn't make sense that Max doesn't have anyone to hinder him, it's like the other games I've played, MC easy life, all the girls kneel for MC, MC has no effort, MC needs to grind in the relationship... this is so understanding that you look for something more engaging and can't find it. Anyway, I think Eric's content has to be a good content and not so long, because keeping the character for longer ends up becoming tiring and boring, because I honestly hate the grinding function. But I also see your point of view, and I agree with some things, maybe the enemy path would be better not to contain NTR, but of course the player would have to work at it, sabotaging Eric's relationship with his sisters. Anyway, talking about Kira, I think she is a key character in the game. Many ideas can be implemented for her, and I still prefer her to play the role of corrupting the girls in the house and helping Max. In order for the story to make more sense, she will have to ally herself with Max because Eric is blackmailing and fucking her (in the original game she even likes to be fucked by him, but things could change in this new game, let's say she would think Eric an asshole, you know?), and in this, she discovers that Max is a wicked boy and the two team up to kick Eric out of the house and she will help Max with his wishes. (The story of the original Big Brother everyone knows)

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I know about that. The two paths seem to be the same, but one is different from the other. I just did a summary, but perhaps a function for Max to sabotage Eric's relationship with his sisters could be implemented to keep him away from them, thus avoiding the NTR if the player didn't want to see it.
So, this is a story and the story has to make a little more sense. Eric has to play the role of antagonist, the two paths follow a logic of what the player will want. I just made a short summary, but the story would be different, I also made the two paths become similar, because nobody likes to play a game that you have to keep grinding. So, what I wanted to say is that if you wanted to be friends with Eric you would see X content, Eric would share Ann and Alice (maybe Kira too?). If you would choose to be Eric's enemy, you would have Ann, Alice, Kira and Lisa. But of course, since you're at war with the character, there will be ways to sabotage him.

The MC will not lose the girls to him, you have to remember that this is a porn game, and I already said that the MC will kick him out of the house, because I don't see much point in staying with Eric for a long time in the game. You'll see the same porn content with another character for a while, how bad is it? Yes, there are people who don't like it. But why then did put the character in the game? because it would make sense in the story. It doesn't make sense that Max doesn't have anyone to hinder him, it's like the other games I've played, MC easy life, all the girls kneel for MC, MC has no effort, MC needs to grind in the relationship... this is so understanding that you look for something more engaging and can't find it. Anyway, I think Eric's content has to be a good content and not so long, because keeping the character for longer ends up becoming tiring and boring, because I honestly hate the grinding function. But I also see your point of view, and I agree with some things, maybe the enemy path would be better not to contain NTR, but of course the player would have to work at it, sabotaging Eric's relationship with his sisters. Anyway, talking about Kira, I think she is a key character in the game. Many ideas can be implemented for her, and I still prefer her to play the role of corrupting the girls in the house and helping Max. In order for the story to make more sense, she will have to ally herself with Max because Eric is blackmailing and fucking her (in the original game she even likes to be fucked by him, but things could change in this new game, let's say she would think Eric an asshole, you know?), and in this, she discovers that Max is a wicked boy and the two team up to kick Eric out of the house and she will help Max with his wishes. (The story of the original Big Brother everyone knows)

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Personally I hope the friendship path will let us remain freinds with eric. It would be really interesting if wwe could actively help him corrupt the girls and share them. Maybe help him blackmail Kira? Would be awesome for me.^^

I don't know any other game with this kind of helping/sharing, it is unique and (for me) it would be a shame if we are forced to go to war with Erik in the end.
 
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