Archived Big Brother: Does this game grind your gears? (poll)

[polywog]

Lack of seduction is too damn high. You never seduce anybody. They give you sex just because they are forced by a thrid person (Alice, Liza) or because you give them money/stuff...

Incest rarely involves the type of seduction, you're thinking. Siblings "play" together simply because it feels good. Not because they want to get married.
I will agree, that the game lacks a common form of seduction called "teasing". Girls of all ages, love attention, and work hard to get it, even from their own brothers. IRL, Lisa would occasionally sleep without panties, making some excuse that her laundry was dirty. She's ask Max's opinion while getting dressed for school, standing half naked holding up two outfits to choose from, and intentionally wear the opposite of whatever he chose. Teasing is very common, while incest is not.

The author of this game is likely homosexual, as it is written from the perspective of a gay boy rejected by his straight older brothers, and completely clueless about how girls act. Trying to peep on his big brother taking a shower... get out, fag.
Any girl will tell you that, when she caught her little brother peeping, she put on a show for him, while pretending not to notice he was watching. Opposite of how this author writes in every way. Max's not so secret attraction to Eric, is another dead giveaway. Trying to break-up mom, so he can have Eric to himself, watching Eric whenever he can. Straight males, just don't do these things.

 

[infomercial]

Oh boy why would I write so much about a game I hate so much, because I have spend too much time on it... Anyway, let's start.

The main problem in this game is that character interactions are too inconsistent, if not the writing completely sucks. Max is so lame in some scenes while he is ridicilously evil in some others. Kira is an angel in some scenes while a sociopath in some. I dunno, the part makes incest interesting is that how characters change in time and get to experiment with each others. In this all developments are kinda random and forced. Also characters don't feel like relatives. Kira is just a random whore who happens to be your aunt, Lisa is a stupid and insecure girl you take the advantage of who happens to be your little sister, and Alice is somewhat normal big sis character. Ann's path is unfinished, so no comment. Anyway, the most natural relationship progression is in Alice's path and I think she has a good chemistry with Max, then again, not enough sex events and the actual conclusion to her path is pretty lame. I mean, the first penetration scene with one of the main love interest you have spend too much effort and time shouldn't be a group sex scene, especially one with a dominant participant. It is NTR-ish, in a bad way. As for Lisa, I personally think Max becomes a douche with some abnormally large sex drive in her path, he really becomes insufferable. Lisa doesn't seem to enjoy it, too. I think it is a little bit rapey and out of tone, but not rapey enough to enjoy it as a rape fantasy. It is just lame, shallow.

The funny thing is, all these parts completely contradicts with the NTR concept that the author very much tries to force down patrons' throats. To NTR become somewhat succesful, you need a sympathetic main character with plausible intentions and Max is not one of these. I mean, let Eric fuck Kira. She already makes porn. Let Eric fuck your mom. She is a pathetic insufferable mindbroken bitch, you couldn't care less. Let Eric fuck Alice. Better for her, she won't become a camwhore at the end. Let Eric teach Lisa. She is nothing more than a meat piece in Max's eyes anyway. Don't let Lisa date with Alex tho. This guy is pretty obnoxious.

tldr: the author of this game didn't understand the incest and NTR fetishes, and made a game with a very forced story progression. It feels more like the author wanted to write a rape/blackmail/deception/revenge story, but he didn't spend any effort to justify that in the setting so it feels tasteless.

 

[riexor]

Aside from typical Eric complains my biggest issue is that there are no 'romantic' options. It's all blackmail and tomfuckery and to be honest softens me up a bit more than I would like for these types of games. Said it in a few other posts but for me, the Alice stuff kind of makes sense, she a bit of a spoiled brat and everyone knows someone like that. The Lisa stuff makes me cringe, she's cute and innocent and seems to care for max and agree with him most of the time, but you just kind of shit all over her trust and either are okay with Alex drugging her or Max and Kira forcing her into things she is clearly not comfortable with. Also why can't you eat her out more? Anyways, Ann is the only one that makes some sense as she is turned on by Max but is ashamed that she is and with a little help from Kira you tear down the barriers in a way that feels way less rapey than the options available for Alice and Lisa. I like Olivia's path though, she interested and actually wants to do the right thing, but like I said you leave your sister in the hands of someone who is drugging her. :/

 

[Tease Me]

Lack of seduction is too damn high. You never seduce anybody. They give you sex just because they are forced by a thrid person (Alice, Liza) or because you give them money/stuff...

You of seduce mom. You Make her happy by opening the door and complimenting her. You sit and watch TV with her She likes it. You can do Yoga with her. If you go the private punishment rout you give her a healthy allowance.
Finally you can massage her first her legs the her back with panties then nude a lot of grinding goes into it but it is worth it. Odd the skin block and massage of Alice, although she likes it very much, offers no mood change, but get her high and rub her feet does.

 

[Tease Me]

0.4 got me so pissed off that I pulled my patronage from DS, 0.5 I actually enjoyed once I went down the right path. It was kinda shitty that I had to lose everything to switch paths but right now I'm doing Kira & Lisa with Olivia on the way, I used Kate's Mom to deliver on Alice & turn Eric into someone's cock puppet and Mom is jerking me off every day so I'm all good Now if I could get Kate's Mom that would be the Holy Grail!

What cracks me up is the time needed to grid this path is super long. Eric lovers say we just want to click and fuck. In reality we have to play harder for our reward than going the friend rout watching Eric fuck every one.

 

[CobraSGT]

What cracks me up is the time needed to grid this path is super long. Eric lovers say we just want to click and fuck. In reality we have to play harder for our reward than going the friend rout watching Eric fuck every one.

the wait button is the most used in this game

 

[polywog]

I'm starting a camsite right now, where girls like Lisa can go online, and get live help with their homework, from scholarly gentlemen. Men who'd rather see girls use their hands to pleasure themselves, than giving handjobs. Least of all to their disgusting brothers who only showers once a year. completely free for girls in need of passing grades, and nominal fees for educated men with valid credit cards. I'd have done this much sooner, if I'd known guys like Max were doing these thing to their own sisters.

 

[itzaguy]

It doesn't grind my gears as much as your shitty grammar in the topic.

 

[El bacca Del Chew]

It doesn't grind my gears as much as your shitty grammar in the topic.

You do realize that english might be not the native language of all the members here !! So unless you are mastering at least 3 or 4 languages at a diplomatic level, you should show some understanding....and proof given i'm also very poor in english grammar but you get my point, which is the essential here
best regards

 

[Charolastra]

It doesn't grind my gears as much as your shitty grammar in the topic.

yeah sorry about that, my first language is spanish, second french and i'm trying my best with the english, but i have never studied properly, almost all i know is what i learned in internet.

 

[Thjis]

I'm a writer and have been heavily considering just re-writing this entire game, honestly. All the scenes are great visually, the ideas have good bones, but it has a poor translation and infuriatingly poor storylines. If I can open up the scripts and just rewrite it in the txt file or whatever I could really make the characters interact and speak a lot better.

Lisa, for example, is your younger sister archetype yet instantly knows you're 'chasing' her and is all sarcastic about it. She should be naive, that's the whole point of the 'mentor' story, but instead she knows exactly what you're up to.

If I see interest in the idea of the script being re-written I'd definitely take a look into doing that as a mod.

I thought about asking folks to help me rewrite SOB. Thus I am a huge supporter of a mod to improve conversations and interactions. You point about sister is similar to how I feel about mother.

 

[muttdoggy]

What grinds my gears (as a dogerator) are jerks who are rude towards members trying to type in a language they did not grow up reading, writing, or speaking. I'm looking at you, @itzaguy.
Man up and apologize to the OP.

 

[muttdoggy]

yeah sorry about that, my first language is spanish, second french and i'm trying my best with the english, but i have never studied properly, almost all i know is what i learned in internet.

Don't worry about it. I clearly understood the point of your post. You did well.

 

[beishiznit]

This game does 'Grind My Gears' I am honestly unsure why this game is as popular as it is and why this guy gets so much money from Patreon.

The game has a promising start, the renders are beautiful, all of your relatives are gorgeous, you see the main character as something of a whipping boy for the family. OK, cool so after the first breakfast scene I was figuring the main character would slowly turn from being the family's Omega into the family's Alpha. Learning and slowly taking charge of your family members until they all deferred to you. The game's internal mechanics seems to support this supposition as the girls all have an authority stat showing Max's authority over them.

Instead after a few days Eric shows up as someone you have to defeat and overcome in order be the family's Alpha. So after Eric shows up I figured you would show him who the real authority is and dominate him (in a non-sexual way) and force him out. Instead, Eric is an alpha and you are just a pussy beta male. Over the course of the game Max is never able to shake his beta persona, and defeating Eric by handing him over to the mob feels cheap as well. You don't defeat Eric so much as just have someone else do it for you.

Max as a character becomes more unlikable as the game goes on. Working with Eric so Eric can fuck your family makes Max feel like a huge pussy who doesn't give a shit about any of his family members, or alternatively sacrificing your sister Alice so Eric doesn't fuck your aunt is almost worse. And add in the constant peeping and petty manipulations to his family make him in my opinion worse than Eric.

If Eric were an animal he would be a wolf, strong and dominant. Yeah, he's a tool but he sees what he wants and takes it, seeing Max as barely a threat to his dominance because frankly he is. If Max were an animal he would be a rat, dishonest and manipulative, creepy and underhanded, a voyeur and a pervert, seeing Eric as a huge hurdle to his pervishness and creeper ways, because frankly he is.

With the exception of your aunt Kira, every relationship you have with the rest of your family feels gross. Your little sister Lisa as stated in an earlier post is either pressured into anal by your aunt or drugged so you can fuck her friend, classy. Your older sister Alice is either pressured into sex with you by her girlfriend or you get her drunk and take advantage of her. And finally your mother, who is a rape survivor with severe emotional scars, is pressured by her own sister into unwanted sexual contact with her son, wow. And let's not forget that Max makes money by selling sexual videos of his family on the internet. I just can't shake the 'Max is a creeper' stigma from my mind every time I play this game.

And finally in conclusion, I hate the main character, he's creepy and I actually want him to fail, even though I am currently playing as him. Ironically, I think the game would be a better game if you played as Eric, trying to score with a hot mother and her two daughters whilst simultaneously trying to stop her gross creeper of a son from stopping you and perving out on the rest of his family members.

 

[pooty]

This game does 'Grind My Gears' I am honestly unsure why this game is as popular as it is and why this guy gets so much money from Patreon.

The game has a promising start, the renders are beautiful, all of your relatives are gorgeous, you see the main character as something of a whipping boy for the family. OK, cool so after the first breakfast scene I was figuring the main character would slowly turn from being the family's Omega into the family's Alpha. Learning and slowly taking charge of your family members until they all deferred to you. The game's internal mechanics seems to support this supposition as the girls all have an authority stat showing Max's authority over them.

Instead after a few day Eric shows up as someone you have to defeat and overcome in order be the family's Alpha. So after Eric shows up I figured you would show him who the real authority is and dominate him (in a non-sexual way) and force him out. Instead, Eric is an alpha and you are just a pussy beta male. Over the course of the game Max is never able to shake his beta persona, and defeating Eric by handing him over to the mob feels cheap as well. You don't defeat Eric so much as just have someone else do it for you.

Max as a character becomes more unlikable as the game goes on. Working with Eric so Eric can fuck your family makes Max feel like a huge pussy who doesn't give a shit about any of his family members, or alternatively sacrificing your sister Alice so Eric doesn't fuck your aunt is almost worse. And add in the constant peeping and petty manipulations to his family make him in my opinion worse than Eric.

If Eric were an animal he would be a wolf, strong and dominant. Yeah, he's a tool but he sees what he wants and takes it, seeing Max as barely a threat to his dominance because frankly he is. If Max were an animal he would be a rat, dishonest and manipulative, creepy and underhanded, a voyeur and a pervert, seeing Eric as a huge hurdle to his pervishness and creeper ways, because frankly he is.

With the exception of your aunt Kira, every relationship you have with the rest of your family feels gross. Your little sister Lisa as stated in an earlier post is either pressured into anal by your aunt or drugged so you can fuck her friend, classy. Your older sister Alice is either pressured into sex with you by her girlfriend or you get her drunk and take advantage of her. And finally your mother, who is a rape survivor with severe emotional scars, is pressured by her own sister into unwanted sexual contact with her son, wow. And let's not forget that Max makes money by selling sexual videos of his family on the internet. I just can't shake the 'Max is a creeper' stigma from my mind every time I play this game.

And finally in conclusion, I hate the main character, he's creepy and I actually want him to fail, even though I am currently playing as him. Ironically, I think the game would be a better game if you played as Eric, trying to score with a hot mother and her two daughters whilst simultaneously trying to stop her gross creeper of a son from stopping you and perving out on the rest of his family members.

First post here,

The renders are the best thing about this game. Actually, probably the only saving grace it has. While I'm sure we all appreciate the effort this game frustrated me more than it helped me. Making progress in the story takes some serious grinding and its not often clear what I should be doing when. The fact that certain events need to be trigerred at a specific hour while having no way to skip days only compounds the issue.

As for the story, it could really use someone to help with the English as it is clearly not the first language of whoever made it. Many of the choices also force you to do some shitty things to your own family which is a huge turn off for me. I would agree with the 'creeper' sentiment in the above post. I get the tabboo but I hate how we have to play as a giant piece of shit little brother. Even your relationship with Aunt Kira is creeper status imo as you basically are forced to rape her during the 2nd photoshoot.

 

[badblonde]

bb used to be a good game know its a game meant to please the Cg herd and milk people to get his cash lol ..... he stared the trend DOD and DMD are fallowing up on it

that's what is really grinding my gears lol

 

[Madkunta]

This game has a lot going for it, the visuals are great. The characters are some of the best i've seen and the graphics are really well done. I enjoy the concept of the skills, influences, having to learn classes etc. The entire laptop feature is a great touch.

The story of the game is decent, but the way the story is translated and executed in the game itself is a clusterfuck. Having one single line at the start of the game has a huge impact later on. And it's not even that alone, things are intricate but they're intricate in the most annoying way.

For example you'll massage Alice's feet every single night, but that scene will never (at least so far) develop into anything else. So the only reason it's there is to raise your skill, and then it becomes a 'grind'. Lol we're not here to grind, which is annoying.

And let's be blunt here, we know why everyone plays this game - for the sex scene. Yeah, there's maybe 1 or 2 actual sex scenes and after that you can't really get back to them. It seems the only character fucking in this game is Eric.

 

[Zeratul]

I almost feel like someone should take the (excellent) assets and change the plot.

I imagine something along the lines of:
Max is the butt monkey of the family, seen as a loser who dropped out of school and has no job.
Lisa is having trouble with her schoolwork, and of getting the attention of a boy she likes (Alex). (Alex turns out to be a shit.)
Alice wants expensive dresses and lingerie, and to go clubbing every weekend, but has trouble getting her blog off the ground.
And Mom could use some help around the house and financially. At first Max helps her with the chores, later financially.
Max redeems himself by helping the women in his life with their problems. As he helps them, their respect for (and attraction to) him increases, leading to the sex scenes.

Eric adds nothing useful to the game. A pointless antagonist who really wants the same things as Max, but is everything Max isn't (smarter, more successful, more rich, more influence on his family). Personally, I'd get rid of him. Or maybe have a choice: play as Eric or Max.
I'd also dump all the depressing rape/spanking stuff. It's not needed. Just let Max redeem himself to his family and get sex as a reward.

 

[ScottyLQ]

To be perfectly honest I started this game thinking it was a nice, erotic enough setting, but after the boyfriend gets introduced and you learn about the mom and aunt and stuff I stopped caring about the plot entirely. It's not that it went too dark, but it definitely started feeling uncomfortable.

 

[beishiznit]

Eric adds nothing useful to the game. A pointless antagonist who really wants the same things as Max, but is everything Max isn't (smarter, more successful, more rich, more influence on his family).

I agree with this. Eric highlights the gross inadequacies between what Max should be as a character and what he isn't. Eric's personality should me more in line with what Max's is and Max should have more of Eric personality. Basically, Max should be more self-assured and dominant and Eric should be a creepy weirdo who is taking advantage of Max's mom.