Ren'Py Black Incense [Prologue] [Himeros Studios]

[anon6076]

If you can choose not to have sex with the husband or bf that would be nice

What's the fucking reason to marry if not to have society approved sex? This is bullshit. She is woman and have sex with other women, that means lesbian tag is 100% correct. Ask to add 'only lesbian' tag if you are so picky.

 

[Shelscott50]

Go to the Alps for your Gap Year and go to the hot tub with Mathilde, scenes are pretty good. Really enjoy her thoughts in the process. Definitely no lesbian route at all sadly. Bi-curious seems to be what its going for as you have to bang at minimum two dudes (or one dude twice if you choose Josh for virginity) and you only get the one girl, but only in the Alps.

Thanks. I will keep that in mind next time I play.

 

[Shelscott50]

What's the fucking reason to marry if not to have society approved sex? This is bullshit. She is woman and have sex with other women, that means lesbian tag is 100% correct. Ask to add 'only lesbian' tag if you are so picky.

Good point! Let there No longer be "Society Approved Sex" or marriage to Men. (I would happily agree with that!)
(Men No longer wish to Marry for LOVE and a relationship? -Are they Only interested in a 'legally-bound', living, breathing Sex toy? )
- I half expected you to say "She is a woman and should ONLY want have sex and relationship(s) with Men"

- God, I miss the face-palmed "smiley" (or maybe a "eye-roll" smiley.)

 

[LoveWhores]

I will definitely consider more customisation of looks further into the game, but at present, it would mean making a completely new version of every art asset with the main character in which would be... exhausting to say the least. My hope is that as AI continues to improve it won't be too long until I can build a workflow where I can just feed in all my images at the end and say "please keep everything the same but change the petite brunette to a blonde" and it does it reliably and quickly. At present even the top end tools like Qwen edit with LanPainter struggle a bit, but once this doesn't become a huge time sink, I'm a sucker for more player choice. At the moment though my priority is keeping the story moving!

Yes,of course i mean in future as the game continues - i'm not asking to add customisation from the beginning. What i mean is having option for the MC deciding to go and pay for a plastic surgery either for enchancing her tits,ass,lips or something else like correcting her nose,putting fillers,getting rid of her freckles and so on...the same way any girl can do that in real life

 

[LoveWhores]

You are preaching to the choir I know what NTR and NTS means I also know where the terms come from, but i have zero interest in games where one person cheats on another be it the man or the woman unless I can avoid it, now NTS is another matter, to me NTS is sharing, swinging, cuckolding etc I am a fan of those types of games so long as everyone knows and everyone is having fun.

And yet it seems you still think "cuckolding" is kind of "sharing" when the truth is "cuckolding" is "cheating" while "cuckoldry or also called cucking" is the type of "sharing" you are thinking of.

 

[gymnopedies]

This is a very promising game with good use of AI for graphics; nothing super artistic, but good quality, immersive, and consistent.
I'm definitely going to follow it and consider becoming a Patreon supporter.

 

[segasurfer]

Gee hooray unavoidable sex scenes...

 

[indefik]

I realy like the story, but I want to point out something: In the picture below she only has one leg. I hope you can fix that?

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[mikeab69]

Where's the skip and back buttons?

 

[Hollowpain]

Great start, great character building/creation, art more than solid, great premise, but... I have mixed feelings about the viability of such a complex setting for a one man project. More experienced devs have burned themselves out on less branching games, I hope Himeros gets to find a healthy pace.

Good luck with your game, I'll keep an eye on it.

PS : more group sex and bisexual opportunities for Molly please

 

[Himeros Studios]

Gee hooray unavoidable sex scenes...

Def looks interesting so far. A virgin route being added would be cool even if the relationship is still locked-in.

Please try to make all future sexual encounters avoidable. Thank you.

All sex scenes will be avoidable from now on. However that was unavoidable for the prologue because the prologue is the story before the story. The actual Black Incense story was always going to start with Molly having a boyfriend and not being a virgin. I could have just started the story there without a prologue, but wanted the player to have as much ownership as possible of her story up to the start of the game within reasonable bounds.

The way I like to think about it is to think about a top tier game when it comes to player agency / choice like Baldur's Gate 3. There is a huge amount of choice and opportunities to take your character in new directions with each playthrough, but the start of the story always has to include some common elements (e.g. being stuck on the nautiloid, meeting Lae'zel and Shadowheart, escaping the nautiloid) in order for there to be a story in the first place. It would be unreasonable to claim that Larian Studios were anti-player choice because they didn't let you start the game in Baldurs Gate, or on the side of the mindflayers at the very beginning, because there is only so much variation and choice you can add in whilst still keeping a coherent story.

If I had made a virgin route I would have had to have rewritten 12 of the game's sex scenes so far just in case they were the player's first time, which is probably about two weeks of extra work I could instead spend making the next release. This forum is littered with abandoned games of devs who tried to fit everything in and burned out quickly. I'm determined for Black Incense to not suffer the same fate.

I read your comments about the RPG mechanics you have in mind and that you liked Disco Elysium.

I liked what I read, but I'm worried that it will become a programming nightmare the further you progress in the game. With so many variations, you might also forget things.

If you feel overwhelmed, you can cheat and shift the responsibility onto the player by blaming it on their bad luck . For example, you could include a die roll or a coin toss .

Regarding Molly's sexuality, many people are asking for a lesbian route, but I would like to request the option of her being bisexual .

Have no worries, I plan on keeping the system to a simple check and success and fail against a score. It's already coded in so is really easy to include in all future releases!

And yes, lesbian, bisexual, and straight paths will all be accommodated for in due course

This is a very promising game with good use of AI for graphics; nothing super artistic, but good quality, immersive, and consistent.
I'm definitely going to follow it and consider becoming a Patreon supporter.

Great start, great character building/creation, art more than solid, great premise, but... I have mixed feelings about the viability of such a complex setting for a one man project. More experienced devs have burned themselves out on less branching games, I hope Himeros gets to find a healthy pace.

Good luck with your game, I'll keep an eye on it.

PS : more group sex and bisexual opportunities for Molly please

Thank you for the kind words and support, it really does mean a lot! And don't worry, I am really mindful of the risk of burnout and feature creep - I learned a lot from making the prologue and think I have a pretty good idea of what is viable to release each month (certainly each monthly release will be smaller than the prologue, it would be impossible to make a release that size each month), in a way that will still keep the story moving and evolving.

And yes, in time there will indeed be more group sex and bisexual opportunities for Molly

Where's the skip and back buttons?

I took out the buttons to click on as I did not want too much screen clutter and entirely redesigned the UI to try and make the game experience as aesthetic as possible. However the keyboard and mouse shortcuts for both still work so the functionality is still very much there.

I realy like the story, but I want to point out something: In the picture below she only has one leg. I hope you can fix that?

Thanks for the kind words! And for sure, good spot I don't have time to fix every single small AI artefact in game if they are mostly unobtrusive and in the background, but a missing limb does seem like the sort of thing that needs patching up! Thank you for pointing it out, I'll run it through an inpainter and have Molly back on both feet for her date in the next release

 

[TLouis2]

All sex scenes will be avoidable from now on. However that was unavoidable for the prologue because the prologue is the story before the story. The actual Black Incense story was always going to start with Molly having a boyfriend and not being a virgin. I could have just started the story there without a prologue, but wanted the player to have as much ownership as possible of her story up to the start of the game within reasonable bounds.

The way I like to think about it is to think about a top tier game when it comes to player agency / choice like Baldur's Gate 3. There is a huge amount of choice and opportunities to take your character in new directions with each playthrough, but the start of the story always has to include some common elements (e.g. being stuck on the nautiloid, meeting Lae'zel and Shadowheart, escaping the nautiloid) in order for there to be a story in the first place. It would be unreasonable to claim that Larian Studios were anti-player choice because they didn't let you start the game in Baldurs Gate, or on the side of the mindflayers at the very beginning, because there is only so much variation and choice you can add in whilst still keeping a coherent story.

If I had made a virgin route I would have had to have rewritten 12 of the game's sex scenes so far just in case they were the player's first time, which is probably about two weeks of extra work I could instead spend making the next release. This forum is littered with abandoned games of devs who tried to fit everything in and burned out quickly. I'm determined for Black Incense to not suffer the same fate.

Good to hear. That's all I wanted. It's the internet so if it seems like I'm giving you a hard time, well, I'm not. I understand you're sticking to your creative vision while attempting to attract the greatest variety of players.

Last time I'll say anything on this. I feel like the "Molly has a boyfriend" arc could've been done without the sexual contact. Especially the 2nd one. Something like "despite his obvious desires, Molly did not feel ready to make that leap." This way the story beat that she has a boyfriend is still satisfied.

Okay, done now. Carry on. Looking forward to seeing how this unfolds.

 

[PickerLewd]

Well I enjoy Himeros' other work, I'm definitely interested in this sort of venture as well. Good luck dev!

Did Himeros use a different name before? .

I ask because there are only three posts on his Patreon page, with no trace of a previous game.

I'm curious to know if he has made games in this genre before.

 

[Himeros Studios]

Did Himeros use a different name before? .

I ask because there are only three posts on his Patreon page, with no trace of a previous game.

I'm curious to know if he has made games in this genre before.

Nope this is my first game, must be a case of mistaken identity! But kind words nevertheless so I’ll take them!

 

[Shelscott50]

All sex scenes will be avoidable from now on. However that was unavoidable for the prologue because the prologue is the story before the story. The actual Black Incense story was always going to start with Molly having a boyfriend and not being a virgin. I could have just started the story there without a prologue, but wanted the player to have as much ownership as possible of her story up to the start of the game within reasonable bounds.

The way I like to think about it is to think about a top tier game when it comes to player agency / choice like Baldur's Gate 3. There is a huge amount of choice and opportunities to take your character in new directions with each playthrough, but the start of the story always has to include some common elements (e.g. being stuck on the nautiloid, meeting Lae'zel and Shadowheart, escaping the nautiloid) in order for there to be a story in the first place. It would be unreasonable to claim that Larian Studios were anti-player choice because they didn't let you start the game in Baldurs Gate, or on the side of the mindflayers at the very beginning, because there is only so much variation and choice you can add in whilst still keeping a coherent story.

If I had made a virgin route I would have had to have rewritten 12 of the game's sex scenes so far just in case they were the player's first time, which is probably about two weeks of extra work I could instead spend making the next release. This forum is littered with abandoned games of devs who tried to fit everything in and burned out quickly. I'm determined for Black Incense to not suffer the same fate.



Have no worries, I plan on keeping the system to a simple check and success and fail against a score. It's already coded in so is really easy to include in all future releases!

And yes, lesbian, bisexual, and straight paths will all be accommodated for in due course





Thank you for the kind words and support, it really does mean a lot! And don't worry, I am really mindful of the risk of burnout and feature creep - I learned a lot from making the prologue and think I have a pretty good idea of what is viable to release each month (certainly each monthly release will be smaller than the prologue, it would be impossible to make a release that size each month), in a way that will still keep the story moving and evolving.

And yes, in time there will indeed be more group sex and bisexual opportunities for Molly



I took out the buttons to click on as I did not want too much screen clutter and entirely redesigned the UI to try and make the game experience as aesthetic as possible. However the keyboard and mouse shortcuts for both still work so the functionality is still very much there.



Thanks for the kind words! And for sure, good spot I don't have time to fix every single small AI artefact in game if they are mostly unobtrusive and in the background, but a missing limb does seem like the sort of thing that needs patching up! Thank you for pointing it out, I'll run it through an inpainter and have Molly back on both feet for her date in the next release

I see No reason to make All sex scenes avoidable/non-avoidable.
Just Not allow our MC/FC to become a "Slut" or a sex toy for men to use as 'fapping material',
- and to allow Our MC/FC to have a choice/option of who she wants to have sex with (She has the option to say No to creeps & Perv's; just like she did at the Frat party; she had the option to leave), or the option to have Lesbian/Bi Sex/relationship(s) with other females.

 

[Sleepy_Cat_Old_and_Fat]

And yes, lesbian, bisexual, and straight paths will all be accommodated for in due course

Well, we hope that you will not become a victim of the local loud-mouthed community and your game will not slip into another piece of cuck-shit (oh, yeah, "NTR"). That would be sad.

 

[DaLuke2]

Just my suggestion: I would really like a path where the MC is in a faithful romantic relationship, but where the couple is open to FMF, MFM, vixen and BBC stag. I mean it is your story but I wanted to let you know what I would like to see as a player.

 

[Himeros Studios]

Well, we hope that you will not become a victim of the local loud-mouthed community and your game will not slip into another piece of cuck-shit (oh, yeah, "NTR"). That would be sad.

Just my suggestion: I would really like a path where the MC is in a faithful romantic relationship, but where the couple is open to FMF, MFM, vixen and BBC stag. I mean it is your story but I wanted to let you know what I would like to see as a player.

There will be a range of paths for Molly and Josh, including a fully faithful path, cheating paths, open relationship paths, breakups, and more! Hopefully there will be something to satisfy (almost) everyone

 

[Jungles70]

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[Buletti]

There will be a range of paths for Molly and Josh, including a fully faithful path, cheating paths, open relationship paths, breakups, and more! Hopefully there will be something to satisfy (almost) everyone

What you set out to do sounds really impressive and I applaud you for the effort my friend!

This prologue is great and I would recommend you to stand your ground and be a bit more assertive in telling people off that want you to do this and that. Make a point that you have vision and a story to tell.

Another question regarding the sex scenes: Imho they are very well written so far and I enjoyed the ones I choose. The art is really good but the scenes themselves actually do not have that many renders

I totally understand that this prologue was a ton of work and that you had to cover a lot of renderwork and stuff. So I just would like to know if the visuals of future scenes will be a bit richer or if it will remain like this.

Keep up the good work and all the best for this project!