RPGM Completed Black Souls II [v1.13 Official translation] [Eeny, meeny, miny, moe?]

[CheeBaBoom]

Because the english version is up to date. If you don't want to play in english for some reason then whatever. Does yours even have the dlcs? Mermaid voice is pretty low on the item list, among the dlc 2 items so that's probably when it was added. DLC 2 is the door in the prison on the right side. You can check for dlc 1 and 3 in the room of reminiscence (gallery). If you have dlc 1 there'll be spots for Kuti (you can press Z on the spots for hints on how to get a scene, watch out for spoilers). If you have dlc 3, there'll be snake next to furry near the entrance.
If you are missing any of those, then your game is out of date. The dlcs are essentially free major updates to the game so there is no reason not to have them. I don't think you can even get the game officially without them included.

I actually heard the story is good hence I picked this. However, I heard this isn't an official localization and that the tl is edited MTL. If I can read the actual text, I'll do so, nothing against whoever who did the TLs of course as I know how hard is it. It's just that being an actual freelance translator have provided me insights on how bad some TLs are, and those I've seen even comes from professionals in the industry I am working in.

I don't actually want to compromise the quality of the story with any forms of MTL hence even if it's something old, so long the main story aspect remains the same, that's good enough for me, for now. I'll pick it up proper with the DLCs for their story later on when I can I guess but I'll make do with what I have now.

 

[Phenir]

The version here is the official translation though, and it's a very good translation.

 

[Mr. Cofman]

Though even very good translation may have its own hiccups.
I don't remember details, but... when you encounter Red Hood near the Lutwidge Town, Holmes shouldn't say anything about crawling little girls when your Sen is low, it's a mistake, though quite ironic in my opinion.
Also some item descriptions may be different from the original and mean something else.
There are spoilers, so ignoring them is wise.

 

[Omnom88]

I don't actually want to compromise the quality of the story with any forms of MTL hence even if it's something old

Then you have nothing to worry about because the old translation was made by people and not MTL`d.
BlackSouls1-2 have both good translations.
If you are scared about a Waatividya situation ala DarkSouls then you dont have to worry at all.
It is easier to pick up the speech connection in japanese between Mabel-MarySue
Or MarySue-Jabberwock because of how they end it. Or even in BS1 for ending D the pattern is there for native japanese speakers.
But even then the english translations makes a effort to provide hints to these connections.
There are only very minor differences between certain fairy tales. A. o. how japanese vs western audiences understand it.

Its way waaaay more likely you will not understand or miss stuff if you never seen the shows or games Toro references constantly. From Touhou to a niche fanservice show with a very violent angel as a example.

Not a sidejab or anything but you sorta inflict self-sabotage by intentionally playing a possible version of the game that doesnt have the full content/DLC1-3.
Dont let fear cloud or overshadow your mind. Wether you like BS at the end of the day or not. Dont let paranoia take you.

 

[CheeBaBoom]

Then you have nothing to worry about because the old translation was made by people and not MTL`d.
BlackSouls1-2 have both good translations.
If you are scared about a Waatividya situation ala DarkSouls then you dont have to worry at all.
It is easier to pick up the speech connection in japanese between Mabel-MarySue
Or MarySue-Jabberwock because of how they end it. Or even in BS1 for ending D the pattern is there for native japanese speakers.
But even then the english translations makes a effort to provide hints to these connections.
There are only very minor differences between certain fairy tales. A. o. how japanese vs western audiences understand it.

Its way waaaay more likely you will not understand or miss stuff if you never seen the shows or games Toro references constantly. From Touhou to a niche fanservice show with a very violent angel as a example.

Not a sidejab or anything but you sorta inflict self-sabotage by intentionally playing a possible version of the game that doesnt have the full content/DLC1-3.
Dont let fear cloud or overshadow your mind. Wether you like BS at the end of the day or not. Dont let paranoia take you.

Thanks people.

I have updated my version to 4.4 now which should contain all the DLCs too. Everything should be alright now.

That being said, how do you see what DLC you have? I got the chaos dungeon which should be DLC 2 mentioned and I saw this snake god(?) that allows you to tone down the jump scare stuff. Is that DLC 3 stuff? If it is, what's the indicator for DLC 1?

 

[Facha1234]

Thanks people.

I have updated my version to 4.4 now which should contain all the DLCs too. Everything should be alright now.

That being said, how do you see what DLC you have? I got the chaos dungeon which should be DLC 2 mentioned and I saw this snake god(?) that allows you to tone down the jump scare stuff. Is that DLC 3 stuff? If it is, what's the indicator for DLC 1?

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DLC 1 should be Deep Sea area.

 

[Phenir]

If you have dlc 3, you probably have dlc 1. I don't think it's possible not to. You could check the scenes on the ground there and see if one of them mentions kuti, should be the second group of 4 from the bottom on the left side.

 

[CheeBaBoom]

If you have dlc 3, you probably have dlc 1. I don't think it's possible not to. You could check the scenes on the ground there and see if one of them mentions kuti, should be the second group of 4 from the bottom on the left side.

Okay found it. Thanks a lot. Going to enjoy the story proper. Thanks a lot for the help guys.

Do you think I should go in the Chaos Dungeon first and farm up or just start playing?

I noticed you can get a lot of items from it.

 

[Facha1234]

Okay found it. Thanks a lot. Going to enjoy the story proper. Thanks a lot for the help guys.

Do you think I should go in the Chaos Dungeon first and farm up or just start playing?

I noticed you can get a lot of items from it.

I'd suggest playing and getting a couple of endings. Once you get stuck without clue of what to do, try Chaos Dungeon and farm for weapons, items and souls.

 

[boringapocalypse]

Was there ever any kind of difficulty or challenge mode mod made for this game? It is fairly well balanced but also feels like the line between an impossible boss and a pushover is way too thin at times.

 

[Phenir]

Okay found it. Thanks a lot. Going to enjoy the story proper. Thanks a lot for the help guys.

Do you think I should go in the Chaos Dungeon first and farm up or just start playing?

I noticed you can get a lot of items from it.

It's really easy to get super powerful in the chaos dungeon. It also has some spoilers for the overall story and minor sequence breaking for dlc 1. If you don't care for the gameplay or any of that, go for it. If you care about the story, I recommend getting at least G end first, and maybe doing dlc 1 (deep sea area).

Was there ever any kind of difficulty or challenge mode mod made for this game? It is fairly well balanced but also feels like the line between an impossible boss and a pushover is way too thin at times.

If you're looking for a challenge there's sl 1, or dream soul only.

 

[Mr. Cofman]

Why there are only four Alices? Or rather three mannequins with someone who plays with them?
Why only four nightmares?
Four-Leaf-Clover fairies?
Four succubi sisters?
Four demonic princesses?
Four members of the Black Trial?
Four main heroines...? You know, red, green, white and black and the purple cat.
And the fifth one behind them is... someone who is them and not them simultaneously, or is it something completely foreign? I still wonder...

Hmm... perhaps it's kind of a situation where your reflection tries to replace you?
Though all of it still can be just a sick joke, which got out of control a bit.

No one got hurt, right? I was acting~
...or am I?

What do you think?
Except that I need to touch some grass.

 

[Hanakoto]

Why there are only four Alices? Or rather three mannequins with someone who plays with them?
Why only four nightmares?
Four-Leaf-Clover fairies?
Four succubi sisters?
Four demonic princesses?
Four members of the Black Trial?
Four main heroines...? You know, red, green, white and black and the purple cat.
And the fifth one behind them is... someone who is them and not them simultaneously, or is it something completely foreign? I still wonder...

Hmm... perhaps it's kind of a situation where your reflection tries to replace you?
Though all of it still can be just a sick joke, which got out of control a bit.

No one got hurt, right? I was acting~
...or am I?

What do you think?
Except that I need to touch some grass.

Japanese dev. Number four is considered bad, unlucky and death (not just in Japan, east is like that). Can also note how player has 9 classes to choose from in BS 2, split in 4+4+1 when creating character - 9 is also bad number, means "suffering".

Western world... Number 13 is the one unlucky, BUT 1+3 is 4.

 

[Mr. Cofman]

Japanese dev. Number four is considered bad, unlucky and death (not just in Japan, east is like that). Can also note how player has 9 classes to choose from in BS 2, split in 4+4+1 when creating character - 9 is also bad number, means "suffering".

Western world... Number 13 is the one unlucky, BUT 1+3 is 4.

If only they knew that the world consists of FOUR elements... and NINE would refer to the number of consciousnesses or worlds, mentioned in the Nichiren Buddhism.
But I don't see how it correlates with the game.

Edit: Though in my not the most stable state I made a few correlations to the numbers I don't have idea what they mean now, but... meep. I truly think it's incomprehensive, and may or may not refer to the gods or religions used in the game, explicitly or implicitly.

Spoiler: Nothing there.

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[Omnom88]

I have updated my version to 4.4 now which should contain all the DLCs too. Everything should be alright now.

Glad you got all the content now. The main point i try to bring across new people is that you can only exerpience the journey for the first time once. Regardless of you much you like or dislike the story/content afterwards. At least you got the proper experience either way for the first time.

 

[bob45657]

where is the "white souls"?

 

[Mr. Cofman]

where is the "white souls"?

It is clear as The White Soul that you didn't enjoy nor played the game much.
Why bother giving pointless questions?
Better ask something meaningful, for example: "How dumb or insane you need to be in order to enjoy this abomination?".
And the answer will be: "Pretty much. Enough to enjoy even darker versions of known fairy tales and cosmic horrors, piled up together and peppered with hentai you won't enjoy at first, considering the world you are in. It is not for the faint hearted ones, as I always say.".
And if flipped assets is a problem to you, I fear you may go insane from the thought of how many equally looking trees, grass, buildings or cars you can find in the real world.

Oh well, expectations are meant to be broken I guess.