Phenir

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Incidentally, can you actually write out which love interests even exist in the game and where they are? i need a point of reference to know if i fucked something up so i can quickly restart if something went wrong
Sure but I think love interests is a too strong term for some of these
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Also, if your concern is collecting hscenes, you get the ability to unlock all of them after getting G end, including DLC 3 ones.
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Not quite true. Progress events fire when you rest at any bonfire new area or not, or being sent to a bonfire by any method, including death, homeward, or black ash. It's possible to go over 10 progress and still beat Jub Jub "in time" as long as you don't touch any bonfires.
 

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Also, if your concern is collecting hscenes, you get the ability to unlock all of them after getting G end, including DLC 3 ones.
Oh thank fucking god, this is the greatest news i've heard yet, is it like a switch in the room of reminiscence
 
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holy fuck the old king is absolutely insane
I thought i grinded too much yet this shit still isnt enough
I read the strategy but shit just doesnt work
I can'tkill the shadows because they also reflect fucking magic, and only unavoidable attacks like omniblow only hit, but the scale of damage just isnt enough
I one shot them if i break the next turn, but then it's too late, how tf am i supposed to beat this?
 
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holy fuck the old king is absolutely insane
I thought i grinded too much yet this shit still isnt enough
I read the strategy but shit just doesnt work
I can'tkill the shadows because they also reflect fucking magic, and only unavoidable attacks like omniblow only hit, but the scale of damage just isnt enough
I one shot them if i break the next turn, but then it's too late, how tf am i supposed to beat this?
You don't need to attack the shadows at all, you just need to use break on them while they are charging and they auto die.
 

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Then it's too late and he does the one shot move
or you can also try stunlocking the whole boss fight. not sure what the luck threshold is needed ( think its 5-6k which can be easily achieved with 4 goat rings and blue bird feather buffs).

use a multi-hitting weapon like jubjub bow for more hits and then for your last action switch to a high stun rate weapon like anchor. the old king should not be able to touch you at all this way
 

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Then it's too late and he does the one shot move
I suspect you don't have enough luck to actually land the break status, which is basically stun + they take more damage. If you were actually successful, it would cancel their one shot move and they would die at the beginning of their next turn and old king can't attack during shadow phase. Just using break is not enough. You need at least 3k luck to inflict break status in this fight.
This is a pretty common trip up since old king is fought at such a high difficulty level, it has enough luck to nullify status effects. You are essentially fighting at diff 9 which multiplies enemy stats by 7 except luck which is multiplied by 4. Status effects can't be applied if you have over 1k less luck than the target and old king has 3996 luck after difficulty mod. Luckily break has 1000x application chance of break status so even if you have 999 less luck, you can land it 100% of the time assuming it's effective *cough*unis*cough*
Also, old king IS significantly harder than the boss of G end lmao.
 
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try using a shield break instead of a gun break as those don't have a cd
Wasn't using it in the first place
or you can also try stunlocking the whole boss fight. not sure what the luck threshold is needed ( think its 5-6k which can be easily achieved with 4 goat rings and blue bird feather buffs).

use a multi-hitting weapon like jubjub bow for more hits and then for your last action switch to a high stun rate weapon like anchor. the old king should not be able to touch you at all this way
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Pretty sure i have enough
I plan on trying out using absolute precisicion and the power sword since it's the only multi hit attack that's single target i can use
and i'll maybe try your suggestion

I suspect you don't have enough luck to actually land the break status, which is basically stun + they take more damage. If you were actually successful, it would cancel their one shot move and they would die at the beginning of their next turn and old king can't attack during shadow phase. Just using break is not enough. You need at least 3k luck to inflict break status in this fight.
This is a pretty common trip up since old king is fought at such a high difficulty level, it has enough luck to nullify status effects. You are essentially fighting at diff 9 which multiplies enemy stats by 7 except luck which is multiplied by 4. Status effects can't be applied if you have over 1k less luck than the target and old king has 3996 luck after difficulty mod. Luckily break has 1000x application chance of break status so even if you have 999 less luck, you can land it 100% of the time assuming it's effective *cough*unis*cough*
Also, old king IS significantly harder than the boss of G end lmao.
i mean if 20k isnt enough then ill grind a little more, when i try to break on the first turn the sshadows are summoned i just get 'no effect'


I'll prob update tomorrow since im super burnt out from the game, i spent the entire evening yesterday trying to beat both the old king and the boss rush thing, which i also failed at, so im taking a small break that hopefully doesnt end up being a 6 month one like i did the last time playing the game
 

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i mean if 20k isnt enough then ill grind a little more, when i try to break on the first turn the sshadows are summoned i just get 'no effect'
20k is way more than enough. Are you targeting the shadows or the boss? Also, while you can break them without them charging, they have massive break resistance (99%, which is actually 1% less than 99.9% of other enemies) unless they are charging.
Here, I made a video of the boss fight with some breaks during charging and some without.
 

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20k is way more than enough. Are you targeting the shadows or the boss? Also, while you can break them without them charging, they have massive break resistance (99%, which is actually 1% less than 99.9% of other enemies) unless they are charging.
Here, I made a video of the boss fight with some breaks during charging and some without.
The amount of actions :ROFLMAO:
 

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I'm geared as fuck boi I actually don't know what I am wearing, I just picked a random save file and ran to the old king and fought it.
 

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Im having trouble uploading a video of my own but what i've noticed is that AFTER the first turn where he summons the shadows, for your video only one of them gets the status effect, for me it's both
I break one of them, but im still fucked since i didint break both
How much fucking speed do i need??

Oh shit not only that
For me he summons 2 shadows on the first turn
So i am fucking SLOW
 

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You're way past the speed cap lol. Do you not have any gear for extra actions? Black rabbit ring (you can get one easily at mushroom village), andor sword, anchor (indignation), or duchess covenant. Alternatively, kikokushushu (kishingatana) or mow down (great sword) or some other aoe attack that inherits weapon element while wearing club/log but that requires at least 2 actions.
 
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You're way past the speed cap lol. Do you not have any gear for extra actions? Black rabbit ring (you can get one easily at mushroom village), andor sword, anchor (indignation), or duchess covenant.
Have none those, where in the mushroom village is the ring?

Edit nvm i found it
didint fucking know the hidden path needed 0 san
 

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Have none those, where in the mushroom village is the ring?
The big house at the back disappears at 0 sen. Fight the boss back there and transmute its soul for black rabbit ring. Anchor is from deep sea knight soul.
 
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