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At least there's something under those black depths if you're brave enough to peek.
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While TCO's ego is quite large proven by the fact of how it acts, it seemss to always let alot of stuff it should've go. It let Node bring back yog, the only entity rivalling if not surpassing it, not only that, yog brough it's entire garden and just connected it to wonderland without an ounce of permission. Then, Prickett and node made GG based on Leaf's power, there's no way it didn't know GG existed or what it was, and this is only something that occured AFTER several cycles since node 100% did not love grimm in the beginning, and GG and the chaos dungeon were never there from the beginning. You can argue that TCO assumed yog was simply there to participate in her breeding game, but her actions were far beyond a mere obserever, altough even if it wanted to act im not sure what it could've done to mabel, but the lack of interference confuses me. Then there's the fact that after ending g it practically did nothing, it had to have known it died and that grimm knew, the game itself was fucked at this point. It never cared about Grimm being a creator it just cared about grimm itself, so why it had waited for grimm to either fail ot kill GG is beyond me. Despite seemingly being egotisstical and controlling, it lets alot of people to it's devices.
Sure, but given TCO's behavior and the game's narrative we can conclude this, jabberwock speaks of an obsession about being a true creator and the color of souls to also be something applied to TCO. Great and Old ones have an almost child like curiosity towards new things, we've seen it with leaf, kuti, tco and mabel. It's desire to learn could equally be the same.
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While to some extent the black souls narrative is a literal reference to dark souls, which has its own ideas about that, but im not quite versed in it exactly so i wont bother even trying to find out. It has to be included in the BS3 since its an incredibly pivotal part of the story, it all started because jabberwock wanted to see one. I'm not quite sure it's too tied too power itself since at some point during the cycles of Bs1 grimm accumulates a kill count of 85 million, many of which could've been his 'loved ones'. The black soul is a corruption of ones character. When Bs 2 begins grimm's power is comlpetely taken away, however you can't uncorrupt grimm, his soul had to have been blacker at the start of bs2 due to commiting more scenes and generally degrading his mind eve more.I am not sure if BS3 will continue this plot point regarding the "Black Soul" and it importance in the overall story. But seemingly black aka tainted souls give you some sort of power up? They do mention the more corrupted you are the more desires you chase. So that power might as well go over people head. On top off the Black Trial seemingly sweeping all the Black Souls for a bigger purpose. Which also begs the question why Hein under the table sells them to you. Creating a even bigger black soul by absorbing them.
Mabel also mention this in regards to our vessel. As our body cant really contain our black soul any longer should we absorb even more power.
The most interesting inverse lore point about it comes froma Q&A that is found in the japanese wiki.
Toro mentions the shade/pure black appearence of Grimm is because our black soul is so intense & tainted that any vessel Grimm takes on will immidatly be enveloped by it. Maybe its only a excuse so they dont have to draw any facial features. But apparently us being a walking shadow is because of that.
We're protecting the newbies
Mabel's statement could've carried both meanings, that grimm himself as a person is on the brink of collapse, and that his power will go with him aswell, which kind of fits. Even if she didn't it's still a true fact, at this point grimm has lost everything he ever could've cared about while committing countless more sins, the only thing that's keeping him from collapse is either a desire for revenge and/or the fact he has taken GG creator authorithy in the form of MAry Sue's Change ability
Another question if someone can answer and I'm going to try and not sound insane.
I got the G ending and beat the Old King but I'm still unable to access the dlc 3.
However, could the problem be that after getting the G ending, I reloaded an old save file, do I need to create a new game+ and restart everything (campfire, Prickett's ring, covenants) or am I missing something?
I got the G ending and beat the Old King but I'm still unable to access the dlc 3.
However, could the problem be that after getting the G ending, I reloaded an old save file, do I need to create a new game+ and restart everything (campfire, Prickett's ring, covenants) or am I missing something?
This goes down a slight rabbit hole to BS1 + BS2 lore snippets. But seemingly Mabel was already a collaborator with TCO since the Tea Party Adventures. As in not only was Uther Pendragon(Old King) involved but also its kin Arthur Pendragon. Uther/OldKing being refered to as a old enemy of Grimm & Jack o Box telling us some pre BS1 lore about how the Tea Party crew alongside Grimm fought against the Red Queen/Arthur Pendragon. Mabel mentioned she wanted to get revenge on Grimm initially during BS2 because he destroyed her nurtured champions. So whatever sort of backend deal these 2 had Yog was already part of it or intentionally lend her champions as actors to spy on TCO. Considering her whole motive is to prevent the all out war & if TCO had any plans to utulize Wonderland for the war then it would make sense.
And it woulndt have been easy to kill off Yog like the other 2 who helped TCO out to create Wonderland stage.
Regarding GG i think Mary Sues power really is just that special. The rewind/reset mechanic seemingly something other Outer Ones cant use to the extent Mary can. Because as we seen even if we manage to "defeat" the Alice flesh blob in G & kinda already get a happy ending. GG still acts on its own & rewinds the clock. We seen this set up BS1. C end we "kill" Mary Sue however the rewind still happens and Mary Sue in the follow up NG even mocks you for it. However that point isnt that strong considering she could have faked her defeat. What makes GG special is its function & TCO probably needed it as it was running out of actors to the point we use Grimms own children as fodder for the stage.
Well for the most part. The Dark Souls is tied to humanity as the first pigmy shared it so "hollows" become proper people. As the eternal grey & stagnation of immorality was normal before the first flame/souls was found. Dark Souls has been tied to matter, weight & the showcase of sharing & stealing souls.
In BS1 the only things that are adapted is the power to give and absorb souls. With the whole sin & corruption part coming more from Demon Souls. Because in DS1 you go hollow when you lose your willpower(you still can physically hollow but as long as your determination stays intact you will not lose your mind). While in DemonSouls you turn into a monster when the desire threshold is reached & your ego is consumed.
The main reason i think the Black Souls = some sort of forbidden or dangerous power up is because of how inverse they acknowdlege Grimms power to absorb souls & share them with the covenant systems. The most interesting thing the "outer one souls" Mabel sells us in the Chaosdungeons or gives us as a rewards at the Bossrush. Are also black & their description is interesting. So in turn for example if becoming tainted = potential to become a eldritch level entity. This would tie into Mabel trying to feed us all the blackest souls even those of outer ones to raise us into the "Creator" level entity she needs. Maybe the whole puprose of the Black Trial is to collect them for their own Outer One or to trim the weeds before they could become a problem in the powerbalance system of the Eldritch Gods.
While Jabberwock is a fucked up piece of patchwork. I think she is onto something with her whole goal to twist souls & her motivation to become a Creator of her own.
Yes its needs to be the follow up NG+ after G. So picking a different save file is the fumbled bag.
After reaching the G back end route and finishing it. The following NG on the same save file take the boat in carroll river to the door. Which will lead you to DLC3.
The folder in the game files should be pw protected. Thus you put in the code as the pw and you can look at all the bonus art
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This is what it looks like in the folder, and then after I try to extract it. Where do I actually insert the code?
Unless i never seen the secret secret rar. You already have it with the artworks. The secret rar you try to open should be a zipped archive version of it. Not sure why you cant extract it. But its the same content as all the artworks you see here.
The images you see here are already in a folder you need the pw for. However idk why you didnt need the pw to access the bonus art folder in the first place.
The images you see here are already in a folder you need the pw for. However idk why you didnt need the pw to access the bonus art folder in the first place.
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Oh really? She really can't keep her nose out of things.
Then she was practically being a tsundere to node by pretending she DIDN'T want to go to wonderland. (of course i know its for the preservation of existence, but this conclusion is funnier)it's not like im unwilling to accept that mary's the only one who can use spacetime abilities to that extent, but the narrative timeline doesn't make it fit.
GG was made entirely by mabel's suggestion, which came after bs2 wonderland started, because node was not in love with grimm from the start. Node called for mabel's help only after that and suggessted the plan of making grimm into a creator through GG to node. Node herself was quite shocked by the idea, to me it seems as if she had never actually thought of the idea, and since she would never ask for mabel's help until she actually loved grimm, which can only happen later, thus GG only existed later in the timeline. While TCO simply did the rewind job by itself until GG came in.
The only way i see it working is if mabel knew the existence of GG but thought it wasn't being used correctly, then she suggested of using GG to make grimm a creator. This doesn't sti right with me as Nodens is supposed to be wise, wise enough to oppose against Nyarla. Maybe she threw the plan out cause it wasn't feasible but i find the timeline that GG was created somewhere along the cycles, which were controlled by TCO in the beginning, who let GG exist because it made it made the game run smoother, and even ensured a safety net in its death that grimm would not be able to "ever" leave. This does explain TCO's actions better but doesn't answer the inconsistency. Unless we assume node loved grimm from the start and came to mabel from the start who then suggested using GG which was made at TCO suggestion because it was aware that Mary's power will be useful for the game, for the sake of making grimm a creator, then it'd fit completely, but i feel im taking a shit ton of leaps right now without evidence
Yogs direct ties to the Tea Party or Nyarla for that connection is unclear. However Yog/Mabel being a mastermind of her own. I cant see it lending TCO actors for its garden-stage for any other reason. Especially with her own comment never expecting Grimm to beat her champions. It could be lending these 2 was her only connection or she also helped out with the stage. Its definitly vague but the thread is there.
There is also the question of Prickett as she also has a red door leading to Mabel Chaos Dungeon. So them all working together by grafting Mary Sue power for a machine god is a shaky timeline thing.
I dont think TCO did rewind before GG. It just replaced/burned trough the human vessel actors & its in frenzy started running out of them (white space storage lore we get from ending G & our demon maid). Then Node, Prickett or Mabel presenting GG and its functions. SEN & The Gear Madness showcasing the decaying state of Wonderland. On top off things like most actors cant even shapeshift into proper human forms. So GG has to mentally manipulate Grimm to see them as humans.
At least i would assume thats how they presented it to TCO after a chunk of Outer Ones left due its madness & the rest of set pieces dying. Thats the impression i got after the Node fight telling us how they started using Grimms children as love partners.
The eyeball enemies also being a indicator that a lot of the set pieces are just shapeshifting TCOs flesh blobs. Almost running a one man show at this point of decay.
Regarding Node. Thats a big what if buuuut: Noden as a Elder God by default is against the Outer Ones. If that translates to ingame Node being a unwilling henchwoman to TCO & only later her core motivation becomes supporting Grimm out of love. It would make sense if thats her initial motivation to work with Yog & Prickett. That also depends when she or anyone else for that matter noticed TCO decend into madness becoming a former shadow of itself.
But thats huge leap. Because i havents seen any evidence of Elder Gods being labeld or mentioned. Most of their crooked relationship comes from the Outer Ones being created by the Elder Gods & the Elder Gods getting backstabbed by them & either killed, sealed or enslaved by the them.
Yog can see past, present and future. But how that would tie into GG creation of or if its a actual inverse thing for the lore idk. Beyond her saying she knows Azathot will awaken if the all out war happens. If thats just a calculated guess based on evidence of the forces clashing or if its a future premonition power.
There is also the puppet GG instances to consider aka the 1-A, B C etc.
So if Mary Sue needed to create a "puppet" instance that will use the rewind in her stead after dying. Knowledge about that circumstance might have lead to the idear of GG by the others.
(Refering to puppet Alice from BS1 & the lore about the other puppet classifications being tied to GG)
u suppose to use 7zip or winrar to extract, not the build-in extractor of windows
Hey, guys. I know the version of the game here is kinda supposed to be the final one, but there is something wrong with it. I downloaded this game from another website and found this:
Prickett's sprite in this version.
And how its looks in other version of the game i found.
Is this really final update here?
Prickett's sprite in this version.
And how its looks in other version of the game i found.
Is this really final update here?
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The version you got is probably the "censored" DLsite version, which among other things like sprite changes for characters like red-hood and I guess Prickett, replaces some soundtracks due to copyright issues I think, here's an example:
Pre-patch
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The version you find here on F95 is the fan-translated final version before the soundtracks were changed, which does include all the DLCs so you won't be missing anything. People here prefer this version since it's more in-line with the creator's original vision.
Dunno about translation. I didn't noticed any differences in the text and all 3 dlc is also included, but new soundtrack is indeed kinda meh. So I decided to copypaste audio folder from this version.
I found it on anime-sharing if someone wondering.
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holy fuck i never knew that, the patch version sounds creepy but it's so off beat
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I'm honestly fine with the new moon theme, I even prefer it but look at what they did to cheshire catholy fuck i never knew that, the patch version sounds creepy but it's so off beat
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its been two years since i last checked this thread.So any news on his next game? Iirc he was going to make a game with RRH as a MC before doing a Black souls 3
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Mahjong game menu music
T must make a billion cgs before he's satisfied with DRH