VN Ren'Py Blood Spirals [Ep.2 v0.2.3] [Modern Degenerate]

[SpyderArachnid]

May I know how to get the kitchen scene? was it on the latest update?

I really need a walkthrough, I am missing out some of the scenes.... View attachment 5380683 View attachment 5380684

Yeah, it's in the latest update. It's after you bring Rosa to Aneta's place. Aneta and Em have a "moment" in her room, and Aneta leaves to the kitchen. You can then choose to go after her or leave her be. If you go after her, you get a scene with her in the kitchen. I don't know if it is point based or anything, I got it just fine, so not sure.

 

[ModernDegenerate]

May I know how to get the kitchen scene? was it on the latest update?

I really need a walkthrough, I am missing out some of the scenes.... View attachment 5380683 View attachment 5380684

Oof - you got fucked.

A lot of these come from an early scene that requires you to do well enough in your episode 1 job interview for the interviewer to give you Davina's number.

Then there are several elements at play when it comes to accessing a big chunk of the update's content.

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[longjohngold]

So I saw most of the negativity around this was due to sluttery... well I damn well love me a good whore so gave it a whirl.

The slutty girls was sort of a disappointment though. If you tell her stuff like you'd like to see her strung up at the club having a train run on her you'll lose points with her... she seems to want to change for the MC regardless of what you tell her you'd actually like. Initially I didn't much care for her personality either, was a bit too bubbly for me, but that got toned down and I actually didn't mind her later on.

The other girl I think is a bit of a lost cause. I'm not into the loli types (regardless of what age is given for her), and given her backstory I can't imagine she'll ever be comfortable with a trip to a gloryhole.

There some other characters, the prostitute - who isn't much a looker and a bit too much of a passive punching bag, the girl at work, the ex, etc. None of them have really grasped my interest so I'll have to hang my hopes on making the ex-slut reconnect with her inner slag.

Other than that it was well written and interesting, I didn't feel like skipping at any point (which is basically the litmus test by which I judge these games' stories). The antagonist is a bit hammy, I was half surprised the dev never had him kick a dog to really make us hate him, and the MC is a bit of a mary sue - massive, accomplished fighter, smart, etc. But like I said, in spite of all that I enjoyed it and will play future updates.

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[Suchpornverywow]

Something seems wrong with phone text

 

[ModernDegenerate]

So I saw most of the negativity around this was due to sluttery... well I damn well love me a good whore so gave it a whirl.

The slutty girls was sort of a disappointment though. If you tell her stuff like you'd like to see her strung up at the club having a train run on her you'll lose points with her... she seems to want to change for the MC regardless of what you tell her you'd actually like. Initially I didn't much care for her personality either, was a bit too bubbly for me, but that got toned down and I actually didn't mind her later on.

The other girl I think is a bit of a lost cause. I'm not into the loli types (regardless of what age is given for her), and given her backstory I can't imagine she'll ever be comfortable with a trip to a gloryhole.

There some other characters, the prostitute - who isn't much a looker and a bit too much of a passive punching bag, the girl at work, the ex, etc. None of them have really grasped my interest so I'll have to hang my hopes on making the ex-slut reconnect with her inner slag.

Other than that it was well written and interesting, I didn't feel like skipping at any point (which is basically the litmus test by which I judge these games' stories). The antagonist is a bit hammy, I was half surprised the dev never had him kick a dog to really make us hate him, and the MC is a bit of a mary sue - massive, accomplished fighter, smart, etc. But like I said, in spite of all that I enjoyed it and will play future updates.

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Shit, thanks for that - I thought I caught all of those this time. It's fixed on my end now - but it's too small an error to put out a whole new build.

I've got some bad news in regards to Aneta - this is a story about healing old wounds, and hers are what have driven her to be promiscuous, and drawn to nasty sexual tendencies. There are options in later episodes, for those who are so inclined, to usher her towards some self-destructive situations - but they are game ending. I'm not making a moral judgement, it's just the outcome for things in this particular story.

I am learning a lot of things about how people's proclivities affect their consumption. For my next game, I will be separating the girl's sexuality from the main story (I thought I was oh so clever making an erotic interactive comic where sex was a driving force of the story, but it has, admittedly led to problems with audience satisfaction I did not anticipate.)

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Something seems wrong with phone text

Apologies, this is a known bug that I couldn't fix before the deadline for episode 2's public release.

I will be completely reworking the phone in the next few weeks and will put out an update when it's done. Hopefully it is still possible to follow in the meantime.

 

[SlapE]

Shit, thanks for that - I thought I caught all of those this time. It's fixed on my end now - but it's too small an error to put out a whole new build.

I've got some bad news in regards to Aneta - this is a story about healing old wounds, and hers are what have driven her to be promiscuous, and drawn to nasty sexual tendencies. There are options in later episodes, for those who are so inclined, to usher her towards some self-destructive situations - but they are game ending. I'm not making a moral judgement, it's just the outcome for things in this particular story.

I am learning a lot of things about how people's proclivities affect their consumption. For my next game, I will be separating the girl's sexuality from the main story (I thought I was oh so clever making an erotic interactive comic where sex was a driving force of the story, but it has, admittedly led to problems with audience satisfaction I did not anticipate.)

I'll admit I was a bit disappointed when I found out this game wouldn't really have much in terms of sharing/swinging. When I first saw the first release and saw the tags, I was excited for that aspect of the game, but alas it's not quite what it seems.

That being said, I still ended up really enjoying the game, and this latest update was damn good, the story continues to be really intriguing and intense, and the characters are written well enough to where it keeps things enjoyable. And even though the game isn't what I first thought it might be, the sex scenes are still enjoyable, and it's not like swinging/sharing are the only themes I enjoy. There's plenty in this game that I enjoy (maledom for example), to keep me interested and excited to play.

Keep creating the game with your vision dev, because it's plenty good and the latest update certainly made me want more!

 

[Antera]

Dev any chance making Walkthrough Mod?

 

[ModernDegenerate]

Dev any chance making Walkthrough Mod?

I'll probably have to - there have been a lot more choices and variables than I had originally intended. I can't get it done immediately, but once I have finished the script for the next update, I'll add this to my list of to-dos.

 

[MAD6999]

So the love interests are a whore and a bag of cement.

 

[WARETZ]

Thank you for the guidance ModernDegenerate and SpyderArachnid:love:. I just finished the game with all of the contents, but man how kinky is Aneta, like she is portraying she experienced degenerate things possible, but its actually sad the way her life is.

 

[Thedude715]

Some feedback.
Saw someone already mention the phone texts being messed up and that is being fixed.
I would say maybe tune down the uncle dialect a little? I could barely understand some of those sentences.
And lastly more of a question then feedback but the overview drops a big warning about the love interests being mandatory but the "bonafide slut" (lol) content seems totaly optional currently at least?

Other then that I like the plot so far its not as cookie cutter as a lot of games are keep it up.

 

[Hargas]

the hands are so obscenely strange looking...

 

[Cai7]

Ok. Generally the overall story is pretty grim and dark for an xxx type of game, but I genuinely liked it. One of the few games I didn't just skip the plot. It's interesting, suspenseful, realistic in showing how the past still haunts our present (bordering on extreme but eeyyy, what's the fun in bland plot?). There are couple issues I'm struggling with, most of which are of technical nature:
1. The models are off. Scaling, body proportions across renders, lighting. Especially with facial expressions - sometimes they're on-point and beautiful, but often very off and I'm not sure what I'm looking at or how to interpret their feelings. This is also important if you're using some affection mechanics without any other indicators. I didn't know whether NPC liked my response or not, differences in expressions were not huge. If this is dev's first game, that's not a huge issue and simply something that will improve over-time, definitely not a deal breaker.
2. The story jumps a bit in few places. Recollections are fine, but several times characters were referencing something we discussed with them in the past, but wasn't shown (i.e. that party @ church?). Or we were just moving to a different 'scene' without any clear border (like dimming, something to end previous scene). Not sure if some scenes were cut-out during build or my choices caused me to miss them.
3. The free-roam mode is useless. Done once at the beginning, but never reintroduced. I don't think it's even needed. The driving point is the story and characters. It doesn't look like there will be repeatable events and amount of x-rated scenes it not big enough to warrant it anyway. If this was a concept change, at some point I would just rewrite that free-roam to make it part of the story.
4. Once dialogue option is chosen, backtracking or loading a save doesn't change what my characters says in renders. Maybe I'm wrong, but once a variable is set it stays? I don't mind if it's intentional, it would be good for replayability and in tune with the mood of the game, but in such case it may be nice to include some forewarning.
5. I would seriously consider introducing some internal dialogues. Especially for girls. Not a huge amount to make it boring or sobby, but if we're running with just 2 main gals, both of which mandatory, they need some proper character development. Perhaps a pinch more flashbacks for the girls that recount past traumas, but mostly current thought which will help player make the right decision. Seeing their thoughts will allow players to see them as more than just a 3d model, especially if (more liken 'when') some choices will need to be made which bring consequences. I know it would add more work, but seeing characters change their mindset based on our choices is kind of a goal.
6. The text messages I see were already brought up, but more on the 'cutting part of text' part. The font choice itself was bad in terms of being readable (unless it was patched later).

In the end, I hope the game keeps going and succeeds. I will definitely be looking forward to a next update and good luck for Dev.

 

[ModernDegenerate]

2. The story jumps a bit in few places. Recollections are fine, but several times characters were referencing something we discussed with them in the past, but wasn't shown (i.e. that party @ church?).

There is an issue with not taking Aneta to the docks where in the butterfly enclosure, she mentions it. It requires a rewrite, and will be done, but not on an immediate timescale.

The church may be referring to the bric-a-brac sale her church holds in a hall - I'll take another look at the dialogue and see if I can make it a little less obtuse.

3. The free-roam mode is useless. Done once at the beginning, but never reintroduced. I don't think it's even needed. The driving point is the story and characters. It doesn't look like there will be repeatable events and amount of x-rated scenes it not big enough to warrant it anyway. If this was a concept change, at some point I would just rewrite that free-roam to make it part of the story.

I will likely do this - free roams are good, but they are time consuming, and in the case of Blood Spirals, I think they are not worth the added development time. There will not be any going forward - but the free roam as it stands does the job intended so removing it is not a priority.

4. Once dialogue option is chosen, backtracking or loading a save doesn't change what my characters says in renders. Maybe I'm wrong, but once a variable is set it stays? I don't mind if it's intentional, it would be good for replayability and in tune with the mood of the game, but in such case it may be nice to include some forewarning.

There are a handful of choices that alter a variable, but do not result in a visual cue - but the majority do have alternative dialogue and/or imagery. Can you send me a DM with the instances you remember this occurring - it might be unintentional and need a fix.

I'll also be looking to add some kind of feedback mechanism in the future - thanks for the nudge in that direction.

5. I would seriously consider introducing some internal dialogues. Especially for girls.

There is a lot of character development to come. I am quite militant about dramatising things, and prefer to have some conflict or scene in which to peel back the eggshell of the characters - I avoid internal thoughts as much as possible because this is a visual medium. Being a new dev, my success here is clearly patchy, but I hope it will improve with each update.

The only direct line we have to someone's head, is the MC - as I have adopted a third-person limited style. Although I have compromised with visual representation of key thoughts (little flashbacks or fantasies) for Aneta and Emily, I will fight to the death to avoid giving them parenthetical inner monologues. I may need to in the future, but I do not want to.

Thank you so much for the feedback - it's really useful and you approached it in such a good way. I really appreciate it and it will hopefully help make the game better over the next year (Final update will, if plans go accordingly, occur in early 2027).

 

[SacredDark]

Superb story telling & beautiful characters rendering. Game feels like a combination between Wild Cats, Cosy Cafe & Evermore.
I can’t wait to see what’s more to come.

And to @ModernDegenerate

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Aneta & Emily are my PRECIOUS!

 

[SafeForSure]

I like the story but really wish you could pass on fucking the degenerate whore. Why can't she just be a good friend or something to keep her in the plot? She is so disgusting it's a real shame she's forced on you like that because the story itself is really interesting.

 

[Yupyup123123]

ok it says episode 2 on update but ends at episode 1???

 

[SacredDark]

ModernDegenerate Hey boss! Is there any discord channel where us fans can join?

 

[ModernDegenerate]

ok it says episode 2 on update but ends at episode 1???

Every episode has a credits roll - you just need to continue. Episode 2 opens after you click through the credits - it's a 3 second Fade transition from black... Unless the "End of Part One" confused you. This is the first part of episode 2 - the second part will come at the end of January, if I can make up the time from being sick the last ten days. Flu has messed with my output - but I really want to keep to my own internal schedule so the game can be completed by the beginning of 2027 - so I'll be trying to make it up.

ModernDegenerate Hey boss! Is there any discord channel where us fans can join?

The discord is currently a Patreon perk - but this is actually detrimental so I am likely to reshuffle and make the base channel available to all and have specific channels that are for Patreon members of various tiers. It won't happen today, I'm coughing up a lung, and any moments of clarity are being spent on writing part 2 - but I'll get to it when I can.

 

[Pendr4g0n]

Didn't even realize the description of the game that he left the gangster life.. kinda turned off NGL.. was hoping this is like peaky blinders where we are in the gangster life... Oh well, not my kind of game.. good luck tho