Ren'Py Blood Ties [v0.1.0 Alpha] [BaconLake]

[oidex]

Gave it a spin, and hooo boy, this thread is gonna turn into a shitshow.

 

[Eleanorduval]

As someone who has talked to a lot of people that NTR it makes a lot of sense. Multiple people in this thread said they wont even touch the game if NTR is optional cause they dont want to play games with NTR anywhere near it.

I am not giving developers any idea of what players are, they can assess that themselves.

Question how would some people feel if dev put a forced hard femdom scene,or unavoidable bestiality scenes? there is difference between removing and make it optional so we can all enjoyed! I guess some people a just selfish and seeking for problems.

 

[ffive]

I mean, they can walk under the Sun with no penalties, not affraid of crosses and the such, no allergy to stakes, they even reproduce just like humans, the only vampiric thing about them is the need for blood.
Why reinvent the wheel? Those things have a purpose in vampire stories, to make vampires less OP. Also everyone knows about vampires so changing them so much won't sit right with fans of the theme.

These are post-Twilight vampires, obv.

A bit more seriously, the popularity of that franchise (Twilight) flies directly in the face of claims how if you change it this much the fans won't like it. Some won't, sure. Others won't give a damn or will even prefer it. Whenever a door closes, etc.

 

[Rayne]

Totally agree with you if it's optional let's all people make their own story and enjoy, if it's not optional then that game is not for me because I don't enjoy NTR game with the LI but I will hope the best for the author and his own vision, it's his story and we have to respect that.

For people who don't like ntr, the big difference is whether the content is optional or avoidable. Optional content can mean that a scene is happening but you just don't see it, unlike avoidable content.

 

[rhune]

For people who don't like ntr, the big difference is whether the content is optional or avoidable. Optional content can mean that a scene is happening but you just don't see it, unlike avoidable content.

True avoidable would be a better word

 

[Eleanorduval]

Didn't even need to read beyond the first page, so that's a bonus since so many people on here work so hard to obfuscate what their game is about...

Agreed, second preview makes it an easy ignore. Seems like every game coming out these days is either an NTR, "not technically NTR," or female MC games. But I'll say that at least the previews are doing a good job of showing that the dev is making a "not technically" NTR game so all of us who don't enjoy this type of stuff can leaves.



Lesbians=Hawt and "Not technically NTR," are such banes on this hobby. Too many people making porn instead of Visual Novels.



Having NPCs already fucking girls, you might as well already tag it as NTR, it's "not technically," here on the site but it is in all the ways that matter. Even though in Japan it would be, but since when do folks care about the opinion of those who invented the word am I right? That's neither here-nor-there. The preview alone will cost you most harem fans, and NTR fans won't be happy with a "minor optional branch," and will keep demanding more NTR and bitching every time an update comes out that isn't devoted to them, so you're appealing to no one.

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I was going to write more, but decided against it, which seems to be happening a lot recently. Seems like nearly every new game coming out is either NTR, "not technically NTR," female MC, and/or a bunch of false harems. But whatever, I'm kind of getting tired of having the same discussions over and over...

Let be honest and go straigh to the point.There is no 2 definition for NTR.If someone fuck your LI,without your autorisation it is NTR.

 

[JoeTheMC84]

Let be honest and go straigh to the point.There is no 2 definition for NTR.If someone fuck your LI,without your autorisation it is NTR.

That's mostly true, but in Japan, she doesn't even have to be a love interest. If the MC, or even just the player, is supposed to find her attractive they tag it with NTR. The whole NTR genre was born from two types of stories, guy and young wife move into new place and old dirty bastard fucks the wife (usually because they can't pay rent or some shit) and the other type was the loser high school guy who likes a girl but she is dating and fucking another guy (usually the Mc's bully). Nether one would probably get tagged here because the first is, technically, prostitution and the second has the old, "she's not a love interest yet," excuse. A bunch of westerners have decided that the two main types of story that gave rise to the whole genre don't even get the tag most of the time. That's why I get so frustrated by this whole back and forth.

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But I said I was going to ignore this thread so I'll do it now and probably won't be replying again unless between hitting post on this and the ignore button someone else has responded and I feel like answering them.

 

[oidex]

I m annoyed i choose window but it keep the game full scenes

ALT + ENTER

 

[Eleanorduval]

ALT + ENTER

thx u are life saver!

 

[Eleanorduval]

Definitely Harem and there is some weird sexual tension and power dynamics with "Mother"...

I don't want to rule out NTR/Sharing completely but I have no plans for it being a major theme. However, I also don't want to rule it out as a possible minor optional branch down the road.

as u make NTR/NTS or vanilla depending of our choice,no one will complain.When we can decide who fuck who,it is logic that people are angry

 

[ventebanger]

Another fine gem for my vampire collection. This hits all the spots in a great AVN, the characters, writing, smut, all are hot as hell. I also love the details put into the background of the stills. Best of luck, and keep it coming devs!!

ps. that was some heavy asmr in the intro

 

[Cajun Fox]

Thanks

Good luck with your game

 

[goblin.slayer174]

This game is a bait, it's a NTR/cuck fantacy game not a harem, NTR tag should be added.

 

[Eleanorduval]

Well of you guys done with arguing ntr can we just appreciate the efforts in the lore and history the dev has put, it's admirable man. we should show him out support, this is what these threads are mostly about right?

I don't see any contradiction u can like the game and give your feedback on certains points. In 1st page he said it harem games with weird tension the mother.He said he don't rule out a minor NTR but isn't the main plot focus.I doubt he want to make kinetic game with choice without impact.

 

[Rayne]

Well of you guys done with arguing ntr can we just appreciate the efforts in the lore and history the dev has put, it's admirable man. we should show him out support, this is what these threads are mostly about right?

What kind of story are we talking about if half the game we learn who slept with whom and this despite the fact that ntr is not the main part of the story. I think that revealing characters through sex scenes from the past is the worst idea for a game that is a harem and not ntr. In such a situation, only fans of ntr/sharing can express support, but not vanilla players.
Again, we learn all this from our LI.

 

[RedLion95]

Good game

 

[Ragnar]

These are post-Twilight vampires, obv.

A bit more seriously, the popularity of that franchise (Twilight) flies directly in the face of claims how if you change it this much the fans won't like it. Some won't, sure. Others won't give a damn or will even prefer it. Whenever a door closes, etc.

Idk about Twilight, not interested in romance novels for Karens.

 

[motseer]

I don't like NTR. However, I will never understand the obsession about what potential LI's do before they are in a relationship with the main character. Characters have lives that have nothing to do with your MC until they do... As they should.

Anyway, congratulations to the dev on a very polished first release. Also, congrats on receiving 3 reviews and one idiotic statement in the Review section.

 

[JoeTheMC84]

I don't like NTR. However, I will never understand the obsession about what potential LI's do before they are in a relationship with the main character. Characters have lives that have nothing to do with your MC until they do... As they should.

Anyway, congratulations to the dev on a very polished first release. Also, congrats on receiving 3 reviews and one idiotic statement in the Review section.

That's the problem, why are devs and NTR fans so "obsession about what potential LI's do before they are in a relationship with the main character," to the point that they show it on screen? If "Characters have lives that have nothing to do with your MC until they do" then why are we seeing and hearing about a bunch of shit that as you say, "have nothing to do with your MC?" Anti-NTR people aren't obsessed with it, that's why we find it weird as fuck to be forced to see this kind of shit.

I try to stay out of it, but if you're gonna make strawman arguments and gaslight people, I'm gonna respond. Back to ignore unless some one quotes this.

 

[Rayne]

I don't like NTR. However, I will never understand the obsession about what potential LI's do before they are in a relationship with the main character. Characters have lives that have nothing to do with your MC until they do... As they should.

I'm not against the characters' past, even if they were involved in prostitution, but why show these sex scenes from the past to the player?