Ren'Py Blood Ties [v0.1.0 Alpha] [BaconLake]

[Eleanorduval]

I think the mom not sure i ctrl skip if it's not with the mc i don't want to see and if i can have it avoidable. Don't know why we have to see it. It just ruins the li for me, hope we can avoid her lol.

P.S. guess im old school harem

i wouldn’t called voyeur,it is mom flash back or souvenir.Voyeur for me it’s when u spy on someone.

i m the opposite i would like the mom to be in the harem

 

[GodlessPhantom]

i wouldn’t called voyeur,it is mom flash back or souvenir.Voyeur for me it’s when u spy on someone.

i m the opposite i would like the mom to be in the harem

So would i if it was not for that scene and the topic of how all the vampires just sleep around. Maybe there will be one good li in here some were lol.

 

[Aramintha]

Definitely Harem and there is some weird sexual tension and power dynamics with "Mother"...

I don't want to rule out NTR/Sharing completely but I have no plans for it being a major theme. However, I also don't want to rule it out as a possible minor optional branch down the road.

Yikes that's an easy skip NTR is unnecessary and pointless

 

[BaconLake]

LOL Nipple piercings are my kryptonite/ pay this person no mind and continue with that glorious practice

They are also my kryptonite!

 

[BaconLake]

if u go codex everyone have 22yo,even the mom unless i made a mistake.

That's my mistake, 22yo across the board was placeholder that I failed to go back and update. Thanks!

 

[GodlessPhantom]

Yikes that's an easy skip NTR is unnecessary and pointless

He said no ntr but not sure about sharing/swinging. I don't see the harem in this game right now but well see i'm like 80% sure i will have to move on from this and try to find a good old school harem game. But like i said in my post above there might be one good li that is not ruined at least for me. Try the game tough you might not like the start i didn't or maybe you will.

Edit: Dev said no sharing. My 80% went to 50% going to stick with it and see were it goes.

 

[sigvar]

He said no ntr but not sure about sharing/swinging. I don't see the harem in this game but well see i'm like 80% sure i will have to move on from this and try to find a good old school harem game. But like i said in my post above there might be one good li that is not ruined at least for me. Try the game tough you might not like the start i didn't.

Nah, there can be all the arguing back and forth about that particular TLA, but the spirit of how this game starts is what is important. I salute your sacrifice and will skip this one for now. Shame, could have been interesting.

 

[odbpm]

First off, I truly appreciate all the feedback — the good, the bad, and everything in between.

It’s a surreal feeling coming home and checking the latest games and updates like I always do… but now mines there too.

Apologies for accidentally kicking off the NTR wars — got a little caught up in the excitement this morning and fired off a quick reply.

Hopefully I’m not adding fuel to the fire with this post… though I get that might be inevitable to some extent.

NTR’s not really my thing. My (possibly naïve) take is that it involves your partner sleeping with someone else — with or without your permission, consent, or even awareness — and sometimes you're just stuck watching it unfold, sometimes by choice.

I didn’t include the tag because, at this point in the story, you're a single guy. And by that definition, this just isn’t an NTR game. Furthermore, this will never be that game.

To expand on my earlier comment about not ruling out NTR completely — I’ve seen some good points made about the importance of being clear, especially with a topic like this.

With that in mind, let’s go ahead and rule out any future NTR content.

Once again, thank you for giving my game a go. It still hasn’t fully sunk in that I’m actually having conversations with real players about something I made. As they say, "I'm just happy to be here."

now you lose most of both harem fans and ntr fans
well you already lost most of the harem fans by showing sexual act with Li's that does not involve mc and it does not matter if its past or present, because stuff like that usually is a starting plot for a ntr/cuckold/sharing focused game.
and now your confirming that there is not gonna be any ntr content and will drive of most ntr fans aswell.

but hey its your story, do what you feel like doing and dont fold for the community otherwise you might get burned out trying to please others.

 

[GodlessPhantom]

now you lose most of both harem fans and ntr fans
well you already lost most of the harem fans by showing sexual act with Li's that does not involve mc and it does not matter if its past or present, because stuff like that usually is a starting plot for a ntr/cuckold/sharing focused game.
and now your confirming that there is not gonna be any ntr content and will drive of most ntr fans aswell.

but hey its your story, do what you feel like doing and dont fold for the community otherwise you might get burned out trying to please others.

Dev really might want to consider a rework of the mom scene and talk about how all vampires sleep around it just gives the wrong vibes for a harem game, but i agree with you. Dev will do what he wants with his creation, might need to go and refer to other harem games on what to do and not do.

 

[shiite]

The game just hangs on startup. Black screen, no cursor.
This is the first time (of many hundreds) I have seen such an error in a Pen'Py game, generally
(in my setup) Ren'Py is trouble-free or (when developer made an error) I
would just open console, see what's the trouble and edit the files. Now
I don't even know which file to edit.

I added console access (editing renpy/common/00console.py), console
can be opened, showing the usual renpy console vindow. If I press escape, it just hangs,
and shows the console window which is dead and has no cursor.
If I press O again, console opens and I can interact with it
(but I have no idea what should I type).

I have a Linux system, with NVidia
as graphic card and Xorg as window server.

I kept experimenting when I typed this message, and typing "quit" in console somehow
make the startup procedure work. Bizarre.

 

[shiite]

The game just hangs on startup. Black screen, no cursor.
This is the first time (of many hundreds) I have seen such an error in a Pen'Py game, generally
(in my setup) Ren'Py is trouble-free or (when developer made an error) I
would just open console, see what's the trouble and edit the files. Now
I don't even know which file to edit.

I added console access (editing renpy/common/00console.py), console
can be opened, showing the usual renpy console vindow. If I press escape, it just hangs,
and shows the console window which is dead and has no cursor.
If I press O again, console opens and I can interact with it
(but I have no idea what should I type).

I have a Linux system, with NVidia
as graphic card and Xorg as window server.

I kept experimenting when I typed this message, and typing "quit" in console somehow
make the startup procedure work. Bizarre.

The game actually works and it's good, it seems that I solved the problem by starting the game, opening the console when it hangs and typing "quit".

 

[allanl9020142]

Looks ... pretty exciting actually! Renders look great, characters are attractive, etc. I was half expecting some niche kink for some reason. It always seems to be like that when the quality seems this good. I'd appreciate it if it wasn't and I could just add another mainstay game to the select few I still follow.

 

[xmilteach]

thx

 

[V.IV Rusty]

i hope dev rewrites this version it has so much potential it's over 9000,
BUT NO ONE WANTS TO DATE WHORES, why is every li like that please make a rework

 

[CortoMaltese]

Interesting characters and storyline. I'm excited to see how they develop in the future!

 

[DoinksMcGee]

Curious to see how this one turns out in the future

 

[Chris2041]

We see this a lot of times devs feel inspired and decide to mix NTR and Harem lets reinvent the wheel what could go wrong both people feel betrayed then the game dosent get support and dev abandoned it after 0.2 or 0.3 yeah a tipical brainfart f95zone moment nothing new
At least reading this thread was really fun

 

[GodlessPhantom]

i hope dev rewrites this version it has so much potential it's over 9000,
BUT NO ONE WANTS TO DATE WHORES, why is every li like that please make a rework

I know has great potential, great look to it and i'm all for vampire setting. That is why i'm still here it's still in early stage and a rework is a possibility.

P.S. Fingers crossed

 

[NebulousShooter]

No one else does this. There are people who don't like lots of things. Incest, or MILFS, or Anal, or whatever. But we never get gangs of people jumping into every thread demanding that developers promise to them that there will be no Anal, no hint of Anal, no way for them to even interpret the possibility that Anal might happen someday.

This has to be purposely disingenuous, because no one is so obtuse to not see that they are nothing alike, Harem, Incest, NTR/Sharing/Swinging/hotwife-ing etc are genre bending tags. There isn't a single game that has them that they are not affecting the game's world, hell most of the time THEY are the entire plot of the game. Thats why when you combine diametrically opposed tags like that you get the usual shitshow.

Which is the perfect segue to address the folks that can't seem to grasp why someone will have issue with 'optional' content:

That does not make any sense. Most people are not THAT mental. When something is avoidable we don't give a fuck about it. Optional means optional, you are not obliged to play all content. MC can bath in cow shit, make it optional and he can also eat it and die of cholera, for what I care.

Lets take Harem for example, its predicated by ultimate, bordering on supernatural devotion to the MC, you cannot have a LI simultaneously be supremely loyal and also the town bicycle fucking around at the wrong click of a mouse. Thats just garbage character writing.

If an 'optional' choice in a game makes a LI murder someone, or confess to murder, you can't just go and tell people 'just don't pick the optional choice'. No, now you the writer have to explain how the fuck this LI is capable of murder. You see how something like that changes perception of a character? How we see her, how we analyze her and how much we are interested in dating her after the fact? Its not a multiverse of character versions like most people try to brush it off, the base/default character backstory/personality has to be capable of doing it, therefore the character gets judged by that info.

Please don't give developers the idea that most players are unstable crazy people that are frightened by things that they won't even see. That's a tiny minority. Please don't make developers abandon projects because of crazy nonsense requests.

People interested in Incest want the taboo of the Incest, not read and see how others did it before them.
People interested in Corruption want to be the ones corrupting the character, not watch NPC#420 do it, or find the character already corrupted.
People interested in Romance want to read about the LI and MC relationship, not how many dicks they had in college and that the MC is them settling down, diminishing the epicenes of their romance.
People interested in Harem want to be the center of the universe of the LIs, not read and see them service others on technicalities and tag loopholes.

I hope you get the point by now, its the fact that devs pick a popular subgenre as major demographic for their games and then shitting all over what people into that genre love and expect that is the problem.

Question how would some people feel if dev put a forced hard femdom scene, or unavoidable bestiality scenes? there is difference between removing and make it optional so we can all enjoyed! I guess some people a just selfish and seeking for problems.

Selfish and naive is wanting every game to cater to every type of person.

I guarantee you outside of very few, under 20 accounts(on both sides) that you can safely ignore, no one butts into threads that are transparent. If devs decide from the start if they target vanilla(Romance, Harem, Incest), or the NTR/Sharing/Swigging/Rape/Humiliation/Fuck fest crowds and are upfront about it the games are going to be left alone and IMO have a much better shot at finding support from their target audience.

Its the middle of the ground, trying to play both sides, pushing tag lines, insulting everyone's intelligence with technicalities and mental gymnastics that always become controversial.

I don't like NTR. However, I will never understand the obsession about what potential LI's do before they are in a relationship with the main character. Characters have lives that have nothing to do with your MC until they do... As they should.
.

Because, while these things have nothing to do with the MC, they have everything to do with these other characters. The story isn't about the MC only, but about MC's interactions with others. And so having those other characters established in more detail helps to understand what they're like.

On purely functional level, it also allows the developer to provide some sex scenes early for people who play porn games (also) for sex scenes, without reducing the plot to "MC meets someone and five minutes later they're fucking like rabbits" which isn't everyone's cup of tea, as far as pace of development goes.

I am sick and tired about this bs rhetoric about the only way to add depth to stories and characters is through showing people fucking!

Just because we are playing an AVN doesn't mean trauma has to be sexual in nature, LI can have baggage without sexual harassment and rape, MC can be motivated to change during the story without getting cheated on in the prologue, the antagonist can be hated without showing him fucking on screen, an AVN should stand on its own without a dream, or a 'voyeuristic' scene in 0.1

The fact that authors can't think of another way to do things than this, tells me all I need to know about their skill.


Side note, unless making a cuckfest game where LI being portrayed as slutty as possible, you don't need details about past, or ongoing sexual activities. You play the popular College Game,

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Can you imagine going to a hooker and while you try to get it on she can't stop talking about how some other clients have fucked her? Can you imagine your gf doing that? These type of discussions being common while dating is nonsense pushed by the closeted armchair enthusiasts that want to read and see that sort of stuff.

They might happen with someone you don't give a fuck about, but not with people you want to date and run off into the sunset, which is the goal for most of these dating simulators VNs and even then, I guarantee you it doesn't happen during foreplay like the garbage inescapable trope...

LI telling she likes doing it on top is enough to establish that she has experience, you don't need to read, or see her have her organs rearranged to understand she has experience.
If a character has kids I would hope its hint enough they are not virgins without the need to see how that happened.
You don't need to see husband and wife fucking just beacuse you can get away under current tags to believe they are married and they had/have relationships.

Bottom line, more devs should stop being in the business of 'What I can get away with under arbitrary tags' and more in the business 'How I can make every character as desirable as possible to my main demographic, so they can't wait to restart the game and play their routes.'

With that being said, seeing as apparently most main chicks, including the family are for the streets and proud

 

[Ragnar]

This has to be purposely disingenuous, because no one is so obtuse to not see that they are nothing alike, Harem, Incest, NTR/Sharing/Swinging/hotwife-ing etc are genre bending tags. There isn't a single game that has them that they are not affecting the game's world, hell most of the time THEY are the entire plot of the game. Thats why when you combine diametrically opposed tags like that you get the usual shitshow.

The most popular game in this site has npcs involved in sex scenes. It's not for ntr fans or whatever, it's world building because the game takes place in college. The same thing can happen with this game, a game about vampires without sex and debauchery would be Twilight. If that's your thing good for you, I'm not interested in virgin highschool vampires.

To clarify a bit: I'm not asking for BBC vampires banging your love interests. I'm just saying that the MC mom being a sexual predator must be a given because of how the lore has been established in this game. Same goes for household maids with "fuck me" tatoos.