RNasc4444

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So, dude, I'm past that selective phase. If the story is good and the Li I want isn't being cheated on by someone right now, I don't care. But regarding women being sex objects, I find it hard to believe that in a game with a medieval, mafia, or vampire theme, women aren't sex objects for men. Anyway, I just hope the developer doesn't give up on the game because it's rare to find a game with this theme these days.
I totally get that. And I agree with you in the hopes the dev just makes the game they want to make. Whether it caters to mine or anyone else's tastes, I've learned that the end result is always better when the dev sticks to their vision.

All I'm saying is that...maybe this isn't the right game to pick a fight against the anti NTR crowd. They have plenty of ammunition in this case. This isn't a hill I'd be willing to die on :ROFLMAO:
 

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This thread is really on fire!!

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The game is genuinely good and has a lot of potential. I don’t think it’s straight-up NTR, but it does include elements that work much better for an NTR-style narrative than for a non-NTR one. That’s where a lot of the discomfort comes from.

Some people are taking this way too personally. In real life, I wouldn’t give a damn about meeting a random girl and fucking her with a buddy but this is a game. In a game, I want that control, I want my MC to be the only one involved.

I’m not expecting untouched virgins with no past. I understand that, for certain personalities and especially vampire culture it makes sense for characters to talk about parties, orgies, and wild experiences. That part doesn’t bother me by itself.

What does bother me in a non-NTR game is being forced to watch or relive those flashbacks. Even if the argument is “you need to already be in a relationship for it to be NTR,” this is still a game, and by the unwritten laws once a girl is flagged as a LI she is implicitly tied to the MC. From that point on, any sexual interaction she has with another character - direct, implied, or relived through flashbacks and explicit memories - is NTR.

Criticism like this doesn’t mean the game is bad. It just means the direction matters, and expectations matter.
 

Look-see

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the excessive nipple piercings is weird. i used to like them cause it was so rare but here there's nothing special about them almost everyone has them. really hope the mom doesn't. some character designs look great like Ashley minus the lip piercings some are just too much.

sad theres no chance to avoid Chloe. is she going to be forced on us?

as for Red. you drink from her regardless of choice its things like this that make choices seem pointless. personally she's one of the ones i think really should not have the piercings.
 

SafeForSure

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the excessive nipple piercings is weird. i used to like them cause it was so rare but here there's nothing special about them almost everyone has them. really hope the mom doesn't. some character designs look great like Ashley minus the lip piercings some are just too much.

sad theres no chance to avoid Chloe. is she going to be forced on us?

as for Red. you drink from her regardless of choice its things like this that make choices seem pointless. personally she's one of the ones i think really should not have the piercings.
Yeah Cloe is forced.
 

SamualHand

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I think we need to imporve the game drasticly! More realism please! Especially about these unrealistic NTR vampires having fun with sex orgies! Every orgy is by definition NTR! Women enjoy sex, how pathetic!
To solve this I request:
1) All women become virgins!
2) The sex orgies are transfered to food orgies
3) No sex = No NTR & No harem so harem haters & NTR haters are happy at the same time
4) More optional content! Is the MC fliying in the planes yes / no. So there is a path with no content as the whole content is optional.
This is the best game, no one can complain as nothing is there to complain about. No sex = everyone is happy!
 

RNasc4444

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the excessive nipple piercings is weird. i used to like them cause it was so rare but here there's nothing special about them almost everyone has them. really hope the mom doesn't. some character designs look great like Ashley minus the lip piercings some are just too much.

sad theres no chance to avoid Chloe. is she going to be forced on us?

as for Red. you drink from her regardless of choice its things like this that make choices seem pointless. personally she's one of the ones i think really should not have the piercings.
I called it downright creepy. Unsettling even. Maybe I missed something in the lore about vampires and piercings.

If you notice, you don't really get ANY choice at all in anything regarding this AVN. It's a kinetic novel with points that are absolutely useless as of right now. I'm giving it a pass for now since it's only the second update but if this keeps up I'm getting off this train.

You can't choose not to be confirmed even though that's a thing. You can't reject drinking from Red. You can't reject the tattoed bitch. You can't refuse being walked around like a dog on a leash by the MC's mother. You can't do anything! I'm kinda shocked there was an option not to engage with Inés! That's literally the only choice my MC had in the entire game so far.
 

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I think we need to imporve the game drasticly! More realism please! Especially about these unrealistic NTR vampires having fun with sex orgies! Every orgy is by definition NTR! Women enjoy sex, how pathetic!
To solve this I request:
1) All women become virgins!
2) The sex orgies are transfered to food orgies
3) No sex = No NTR & No harem so harem haters & NTR haters are happy at the same time
4) More optional content! Is the MC fliying in the planes yes / no. So there is a path with no content as the whole content is optional.
This is the best game, no one can complain as nothing is there to complain about. No sex = everyone is happy!
No one asks for virgins but right now we get public toilets who give you a detailed description of everyone who pissed in them. Why harem or romance when everyone is free use?
 

SamualHand

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No one asks for virgins but right now we get public toilets who give you a detailed description of everyone who pissed in them. Why harem or romance when everyone is free use?
You ask for toilets, I ask for virgins! I hope everyone gets what they ask for.

Pissing, toilets I think this is the wrong game for you.
 
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You are arguing with a "sharing" aficionado, his concept of love is watching from the chair, so their standards are all fucked up.

You can really tell the dev is aiming at the wrong audience when all the people that are defending the game are known for liking "other kind" of games and obviously enjoy the content that is in the game.

The dev needs to admit he is a cuck and make this a cuck game as it already is.

Are you autistic perhaps, or just underaged? Do you really think some dumb comments on a pirate forum define whether a project is successful or not?
The only reason projects fail is because they fail to get the monetary support to carry forward. That’s it.

The projects you’ve seen were probably similar projects that had very glaring problems like this one, and people were only pointing them out. And of course those projects tend to end up abandoned because they just fail to deliver something worth paying for.

Right now this dude has 34 paid members. That’s with two releases and 9 months after its release. That is garbage money for this level of renders, especially after Patreon takes its cut, so clearly he is failing to attract the romance/harem crowd that he was aiming for, and that is just a fact. No matter how many disingenuous and bad-faith arguments cucks here keep making, they won’t change the fact that what is there is just not appealing to the romance crowd, even if it doesnt exactly fit the NTR definition.

So the dev can keep going in this direction: he changes nothing, so nothing changes. The dev might be ok with that for now, but eventually he wont and it will be abandoned
Or he can be honest with himself and make a cuck game, because there is no way this dude knows how to create actual characters or any romance at all.
holy words my friend, amen.
 

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Wow I must say I'm kinda surprised. Didn't peg you for a cuck :LOL:

Let's be serious now, even though you are right when you say there is no NTR in this game, it's disingenuous to pretend you don't know why so many users are upset at the content in the game. I usually don't care about NTR unless it's forced on me but in this case...I mean come on. All the criticism is valid. Every girl in this game is portrayed as a cheap cum dumpster. Not everyone is into that. I certainly am not. I don't like sluts or piercings. I wouldn't willingly touch a single female character in this game. My MC certainly won't.

Maybe that's why I don't mind the content. I'm not interested in any of the girls. Maybe in the future there will be a non-pierced non-slut decent looking girl the MC can bang and I'll be all over her. If not, at least there is a vampire story and interesting lore.
The female vampires have all nipple piercings because they can deflect a stake in a pinch if it's not properly aimed. It's basically armour.
 

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I'd say that knowing such things can be important for building a relationship in the future, because it puts people's behavior in what's potentially very different context, compared to how an ignorant person may perceive it.
See that guy, we've been together for 3 years.
vs fully rendered, sometimes animated scene how the guy rearranges her organs

I like doing it on top
Vs
descriptions about how many times and how hard she rode her college boyfriend.

If you cannot see the difference in writing/portrayal of characters we are done here.
 
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