Cumanji

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I want to like this game, I really do. Its obviously got a lot of love and effort. But having so many choices locked behind prior decisions, with no guide, really doesn't make it feel like the advertised draw of "I'm deciding".... I got to "first real relationship" and I had 3 fucking options of ~40. tried choosing different options to unlock one of the desired, but then I felt like I... wasn't deciding who I was. loosen up the restrictions.
 

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Getting this error when trying to progress the "Infiltrate the club" mission, happens on loaded saves and fresh playthroughs 1758167497122.png
 

CassieBare

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I'm having a hard time following the versioning. Does the public version include the big event at the club?
No. Supporter versions have the full content up to and past the Big Event. I'd estimate another few versions (0.12, 0.13?) before that hits Public.

I want to like this game, I really do. Its obviously got a lot of love and effort. But having so many choices locked behind prior decisions, with no guide, really doesn't make it feel like the advertised draw of "I'm deciding".... I got to "first real relationship" and I had 3 fucking options of ~40. tried choosing different options to unlock one of the desired, but then I felt like I... wasn't deciding who I was. loosen up the restrictions.
Can you be more specific about which choices in particular you feel are unfairly gated? I can look into them.

Getting this error when trying to progress the "Infiltrate the club" mission, happens on loaded saves and fresh playthroughs View attachment 5259177
Known and fixed in current releases, I believe. Will be fixed for next Public release.
 

Cumanji

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It isn't simply this one choice, I just used it as an example. I notice things like higher stats can decrease options for how to behave, for drop down options in the backstory. So, in bullet points-

1.) Some of the stats (I.E. suggestibility) seem mostly negative, but having ostensibly positive stats (Attractiveness, confidence) lower options doesn't feel good. Especially when those are important for trait checks later on.

2.)Having low easy or suggestibility lock out an options doesn't seem to make sense - doesn't having low suggestibility mean she makes her own choice?

For the first partner choice tree I mentioned, because its a good example:

Marco - must have low male attention. But... why? she's too hot? can't approach him herself?
Ronnie - must have low male attention
Seth - must be suggestible. but, having low suggestibility should mean I make my own choices- like this one. right?
Wes - must be easy. Ditto for Seth.
Jake, dad - must be hurt. Why? what does that even mean? Is it locked behind one specific choice? Can't I just decide myself? (THis was the one I was interested in btw)
Mark, principle - must be excited by power. Why so specific? again behind one choice?
Taylor's BF Brian - must be stable. I have 6 stability. How stable do I need to be?

I suppose the complaint, put more articulately, is that unlocking any specific option seems to requires very specific, and therefore restricting, choices. So, maybe lower some of the restrictions a bit. Also, that the exact way to get them is opaque doesn't help - some kind of walkthough would help.

Kudos for the tooltip system, though - it helps. And its the kinda detail you see on a high quality project.
And I wouldn't spend time writing this if I didn't think your game was worth
 

Stri77e

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I genuienly fail to understand what's been expanded in Act 1. Last played like 6 months ago and the game ends at the exact same spot, ~3 days into Act 1. Fresh save, tried multiple routes.
 
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DasBin

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Me too, I encounter the error: Error: the passage "M002 - Club_Night1" does not exist
And I am not using any old saves.
 

vlodog11

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Ava's first love route from prologue is still bugged. You get Petey (Your Fake Boyfriend) taking over passages and choices that are suppose to refer to Ava. You decide to keep or not your relationship with him instead of Ava when going to college, you get Sexting messages from him instead of her too, calling him your first love and so on plus some other passages before that too.

Also when choosing how your relationship with Ava looked like the description when you choose some of them kinda doesn't make sense.
First thing, since it's supposedly a secret relationship but saying stuff like "People always assumed we were going to eventually end up married or something" doesn't fit.

And second, judging by the text: "To many people I was with Petey, who I treated flippantly.For Ava, I was a different person... " You are suppose to choose your relationship specifically with Ava but for some reason Petey barges in again and takes over: "And then something would happen and they were the only person I could think of to call, or Petey would roll up to my door and we'd start things off with a bang again.
Even if they weren't really, really my boyfriend, they were still a rock in my life."
" I could see us getting married and settling down together. Petey was my soulmate. " (I think these are a remnants from the older version where you did chose relationship with your fake boyfriend Petey but I'm not sure).
 
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Ava's first love route from prologue is still bugged. You get Petey (Your Fake Boyfriend) taking over passages and choices that are suppose to refer to Ava. You decide to keep or not your relationship with him instead of Ava when going to college, you get Sexting messages from him instead of her too, calling him your first love and so on plus some other passages before that too.

Also when choosing how your relationship with Ava looked like the description when you choose some of them kinda doesn't make sense.
First thing, since it's supposedly a secret relationship but saying stuff like "People always assumed we were going to eventually end up married or something" doesn't fit.

And second, judging by the text: "To many people I was with Petey, who I treated flippantly.For Ava, I was a different person... " You are suppose to choose your relationship specifically with Ava but for some reason Petey barges in again and takes over: "And then something would happen and they were the only person I could think of to call, or Petey would roll up to my door and we'd start things off with a bang again.
Even if they weren't really, really my boyfriend, they were still a rock in my life."
" I could see us getting married and settling down together. Petey was my soulmate. " (I think these are a remnants from the older version where you did chose relationship with your fake boyfriend Petey but I'm not sure).
Thanks for this callout, I'll go and see what I can do -- the more specific examples where this happens the better, otherwise it's digging through thousands of lines of code.
 
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CassieBare

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It isn't simply this one choice, I just used it as an example. I notice things like higher stats can decrease options for how to behave, for drop down options in the backstory. So, in bullet points-

1.) Some of the stats (I.E. suggestibility) seem mostly negative, but having ostensibly positive stats (Attractiveness, confidence) lower options doesn't feel good. Especially when those are important for trait checks later on.

2.)Having low easy or suggestibility lock out an options doesn't seem to make sense - doesn't having low suggestibility mean she makes her own choice?

For the first partner choice tree I mentioned, because its a good example:

Marco - must have low male attention. But... why? she's too hot? can't approach him herself?
Ronnie - must have low male attention
Seth - must be suggestible. but, having low suggestibility should mean I make my own choices- like this one. right?
Wes - must be easy. Ditto for Seth.
Jake, dad - must be hurt. Why? what does that even mean? Is it locked behind one specific choice? Can't I just decide myself? (THis was the one I was interested in btw)
Mark, principle - must be excited by power. Why so specific? again behind one choice?
Taylor's BF Brian - must be stable. I have 6 stability. How stable do I need to be?

I suppose the complaint, put more articulately, is that unlocking any specific option seems to requires very specific, and therefore restricting, choices. So, maybe lower some of the restrictions a bit. Also, that the exact way to get them is opaque doesn't help - some kind of walkthough would help.

Kudos for the tooltip system, though - it helps. And its the kinda detail you see on a high quality project.
And I wouldn't spend time writing this if I didn't think your game was worth
So I just went through them and lowered a couple of requirements, but essentially they are as designed:

1 per clique, 1 per freetime choice, 1 for liking male attention and 1 for liking men approaching her.

additional options depending on stats that aren't 0, sexuality, family status.

It's not that they're restrictive, it's simply that there are a LOT of potentials and there will always be more excluded than included.

If there's one you're after, the hint does a very good job of pointing you in the direction of how to get it.
 
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vlodog11

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Thanks for this callout, I'll go and see what I can do -- the more specific examples where this happens the better, otherwise it's digging through thousands of lines of code.
First would be in "CC018 - SigOther TRANSITION" have wrong pronoun in text-" I wanted it. He wanted it. " and choosing "I was as into them as they were into me." or " We always got back together, but were also always breaking up. More off than on." options will have Ava be replaced by Petey. also the " We always got back together" option result text doesn't make sense since it suppose to be secret relationship.

Next one is " HS011 - Graduation" where you get messages from Petey instead of Ava " Petey buzzed on my phone, keeping me from actually figuring out the root cause of my nervousness,"

And next is " HS012 - LifeChoices" Ava is replaced in the second half of the passage dedicaded to her and it's Petey mc is thinking about: "Ava was a massive chapter of my life. They helped me understand who I am and opened doors that I might have been to afraid to try alone.

Fuck! Already fucking crying. Kay. Toughen up, Claire.

Petey was my constant growing up. But the world was such a huge place and there were so many other people...I was moving on. Were they moving with me?"
 

vlodog11

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Also just found that Your Best Friend Taylor pic constantly swaps between male and female version if you used RPG style character creation. I think it's because you don't choose your best freind there.

Edit: Nope. In regular playthrough Taylor also swaps genders in pics from time to time.
 
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Also just found that Your Best Friend Taylor pic constantly swaps between male and female version if you used RPG style character creation. I think it's because you don't choose your best freind there.

Edit: Nope. In regular playthrough Taylor also swaps genders in pics from time to time.
also idk if its just me but the mom and dad pics dont even load
 

CassieBare

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Also just found that Your Best Friend Taylor pic constantly swaps between male and female version if you used RPG style character creation. I think it's because you don't choose your best freind there.

Edit: Nope. In regular playthrough Taylor also swaps genders in pics from time to time.
I've added a flag for the RPG playthrough, thank you.

As far as the normal playthrough...I've gone through all the code and seen no issues. Do you have screenshots of this bug?
 
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CassieBare

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Here you go. Got it happen on the same page. Usually I get some pages where Taylor is female and some there he is male in the same playthrough.
Ah, it's just confusing. They are two separate encounters, one with her and one with them.
 
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