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Qalx

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Sim, não sabia. Mas e o jogo?

# You're right, I didn't know. Whose fault is that?! :ROFLMAO: But nothing has changed. There's still no game as usual. It's the BBS curse. We've been through all this already:

- RA simply vanishes after a very rare update
- Zip announces a blackout or internet cut when he's about to release his
- SP is always sick, broke or there's a flood
- OGrey is always tantalizing us with ultra high quality renders but no game ( he quitting was just a mishap )
You're slightly wrong, OGrey don't want to work with F95 (or in) because of everyday screaming of those which want new updates or demanding continuously other things (more or less feasible...). For these he limited also the number of those on his Discord. He just quitting the F95 space...
 

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You're slightly wrong, OGrey don't want to work with F95 (or in) because of everyday screaming of those which want new updates or demanding continuously other things (more or less feasible...). For these he limited also the number of those on his Discord. He just quitting the F95 space...
Is OGrey making a new game or continuing? Where can I see his screenshots ? Where does he post his progress?
 

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Is OGrey making a new game or continuing? Where can I see his screenshots ? Where does he post his progress?
Is some new vision based on the RAI game (I think). On discord and subscribestar-Rey's Bad brother saga
 
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You're slightly wrong, OGrey don't want to work with F95 (or in) because of everyday screaming of those which want new updates or demanding continuously other things (more or less feasible...). For these he limited also the number of those on his Discord. He just quitting the F95 space...
Is some new vision based on the RAI game (I think). On discord and subscribestar-Rey's Bad brother saga
Pode ser mas acabará aqui...

# It can be so but we all know once it's released it will end up here...
 
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A curious thing about the rules is: a BBS fan art would also be a Bobby's Memoirs of Depravity fan art, since they are the same characters. So I'm going to post here some fan art of Bob and Lucy... ideas that I was playing around with about what could happen to the two of them in the living room.
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Faz mas é um jogo... A renderização está boa.

# I believe it's time for you to take your game seriously. Your rendering (and creativity) is good enough. Rooting for you.
 

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You're slightly wrong, OGrey don't want to work with F95 (or in) because of everyday screaming of those which want new updates or demanding continuously other things (more or less feasible...). For these he limited also the number of those on his Discord. He just quitting the F95 space...

I'm going to talk about something related to ZipTieFun's game and others as well. I understand this justification that Ogrey supposedly gave about the pressure from users in the comments. But what would make me not want to work here at F95 is this thing about deleting comments. You waste your time writing something that isn't even your native language and they simply disappear. So the very way they apply the forum rules becomes an obstacle for you to promote your game and get in touch with users. Maybe the developers disappear from here because of things like this too. Probably if I made a game I would create a topic here just to promote it like ZipTieFun or Rainces did and disappear from here too. We're talking about Bob, Lucy and their family. So everything related to this should be on topic and not deleted as offtopic.
 

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Pode ser mas acabará aqui...

# It can be so but we all know once it's released it will end up here...
Maybe, but the important thing is that he doesn't care about it here, so there will be no connection with him. If he wants, he could block the spread of the game here by various means, and especially if he is not interested in "selling" the game in large series.
 
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A curious thing about the rules is: a BBS fan art would also be a Bobby's Memoirs of Depravity fan art, since they are the same characters. So I'm going to post here some fan art of Bob and Lucy... ideas that I was playing around with about what could happen to the two of them in the living room.
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Can I ask how long it took you to render these scenes? I'm guessing around a weekend and not half a year like Zip..
 

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Maybe, but the important thing is that he doesn't care about it here, so there will be no connection with him. If he wants, he could block the spread of the game here by various means, and especially if he is not interested in "selling" the game in large series.
Percebo mas não sei se isso funciona

# I get it but that would be a first because it makes no sense. Restricting his audience therefore his revenue just for a whim after many years of hard work is just stupid... And it won't work anyway because he won't be able to block a leakage into F95zone. But let's assume he can, this forum isn't the only pirates cove out there. Once on the internet,...

To limit the spread of a game, simply don't create it. That's Zip's main tactic. (y)
O Zip quer maminha por muitos anos. É o oposto.

# It looks like so but they're the opposite. Zip's trying to milk it for as long as possible (less work, more money). OGrey may be trying something more focused ( hand picked audience, less money). But yeah, it makes no sense, it doesn't work, it's plain stupid.
 

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Percebo mas não sei se isso funciona

# I get it but that would be a first because it makes no sense. Restricting his audience therefore his revenue just for a whim after many years of hard work is just stupid... And it won't work anyway because he won't be able to block a leakage into F95zone. But let's assume he can, this forum isn't the only pirates cove out there. Once on the internet,...



O Zip quer maminha por muitos anos. É o oposto.

# It looks like so but they're the opposite. Zip's trying to milk it for as long as possible (less work, more money). OGrey may be trying something more focused ( hand picked audience, less money). But yeah, it makes no sense, it doesn't work, it's plain stupid.
As I said, you're wrong, he says that the money he would receive is not that much, so he prefers to work on his own terms. In my opinion, other people's working conditions are different and there are more things that distract them (I hope these are the only things). So you're starting from the wrong premises, if he's not desperate for money, he can invest more in his peace and in his own pace of work.
 

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As I said, you're wrong, he says that the money he would receive is not that much, so he prefers to work on his own terms. In my opinion, other people's working conditions are different and there are more things that distract them (I hope these are the only things). So you're starting from the wrong premises, if he's not desperate for money, he can invest more in his peace and in his own pace of work.
Não faz sentido

# I guess this is more about your mental exercise for sake of argument than his real intentions... He'd either be a monk, stupid or a flake. I don't think he's any of those. I get your point but it doesn't make any sense to me.
 

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Can I ask how long it took you to render these scenes? I'm guessing around a weekend and not half a year like Zip..
I have a shit computer hahahah in fact a notebook. My laptop gets extremely hot when I render! To render a scene like that completely would take 1 hour at 1920x1080. But I didn't even finish rendering those. I rendered for a few minutes and just applied a filter to remove the noise and if I remember correctly it was at 1024x720. On their computer it must take a few minutes to render in good quality. In two weeks I was able to make renders and assemble a minigame called Lucy's Fall and it took me that long because I was learning how to use daz and renpy in the process. That's why I find it very strange that Ogrey showed his renders years ago and didn't present anything playable.
 

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Não faz sentido

# I guess this is more about your mental exercise for sake of argument than his real intentions... He'd either be a monk, stupid or a flake. I don't think he's any of those. I get your point but it doesn't make any sense to me.
You start from the false premise that everyone is the same! Which is false, Zip and RAI are clearly from areas with major infrastructure problems and probably low salaries, so it makes sense for them to seek higher earnings, that's the first incentive! OGrey is different, he probably doesn't have the same obligations and his salary is higher and more stable, for him gaming is more of a hobby ("he won't leave his job to make a game", like the others have tried!)
 

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You start from the false premise that everyone is the same! Which is false, Zip and RAI are clearly from areas with major infrastructure problems and probably low salaries, so it makes sense for them to seek higher earnings, that's the first incentive! OGrey is different, he probably doesn't have the same obligations and his salary is higher and more stable, for him gaming is more of a hobby ("he won't leave his job to make a game", like the others have tried!)
Não é isso. São demasiadas horas e gastos para não querer retorno...

# Making a game is too much of an effort (time, overhead,... ), even as a hobby, to dismiss proper monetization. Money is king. Here and everywhere.

Many devs, if not most, start renpy games as a hobby because they love some of them, leaving to fate what may happen afterwards. Big Brother was an inspiration to many.

But once they're successful, and OGrey is off the chart, none of them walks away from driving fans to their funnels. He'd be the first one. A saint (aiming for utopia), stupid (rejecting sure and deserved money, in opposition to Zip and RA) or a flake (simply being quirky or weird).

It has nothing to do with leaving his job. It's about having multiple income streams, doing what one loves, as people nowadays should. We could do this all day. Let's agree to disagree.
 
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Não é isso. São demasiadas horas e gastos para não querer retorno...

# Making a game is too much of an effort (time, overhead,... ), even as a hobby, to dismiss proper monetization. Money is king. Here and everywhere.

Many devs, if not most, start renpy games as a hobby because they love some of them, leaving to fate what will happen next. Big Brother was an inspiration to many.

But once they're successful, and OGrey is off the chart, none of them walks away from driving fans to his funnels. He'd be the first one. A saint (aiming for utopia), stupid (rejecting sure and deserved money) or a flake (simply being quirky or weird).

It has nothing to do with leaving his job. It's about having multiple income streams, doing what they love, as people nowadays should. Let's agree to disagree.
Only you understood that! In reality, he didn't chase away his fans, but only those who don't pay and make unnecessary noise. And still, for him, money is not the first thing, but the desire to give a finality to the game.
 
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Only you understood that! In reality, he didn't chase away his fans, but only those who don't pay and make unnecessary noise. And still, for him, money is not the first thing, but the desire to give a finality to the game.
E isso faz algum sentido?

# You drive supporters from the community. If you fend off the community... Again, all day.
 
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