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.Sirene

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Pedophilia is referred to a real person, a real child, a drawing is not a person, it can't feel, it doesn't have a life, you need to touch some grass, dude. Drawings, and games are not real life.
Not sure how to tell you this but, in most countries - it's illegal to produce any kind of content depicting a minor in a sexual manner. That includes drawings, sketches, anime, generated and so on. So... Arguing it's "just a drawing" doesn't actually have any legal basis to finding an excuse.

If you need further evidence that even drawings/anime/manga etc and so on can also lead to being prosecuted in most countries, then, I'll gladly back that up. Until then, whatever - you do you.
 
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dreminh

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Not sure how to tell you this but, in most countries - it's illegal to produce any kind of content depicting a minor in a sexual manner. That includes drawings, sketches, anime, generated and so on. So... Arguing it's "just a drawing" doesn't actually have any legal basis to finding an excuse.

If you need further evidence that even drawings/anime/manga etc and so on can also lead to being prosecuted in most countries, then, I'll gladly back that up. Until then, whatever - you do you.
Not most . some around 22 country , also as far as i know none a prosecuted as Pedophilia as there are no real victim
 

dreminh

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Want some case specifics? Because... There are plenty of examples to choose from. A quick google search reveals PLENTY of examples.

Also, there is no such thing as a victimless crime here. In this case, it's illegal because it's considered fuelling an illegal or illicit at.
due res[ect , before convict someone some one of something they still must be prosecuted , and all prosecution is base on so call ""corpus delicti" , there must be real victim no matter if they can be identified or contact / located aka "victimless"
and the action of crime for Pedophilia is sexual abuse , there are none here other than distribution so it not Pedophilia

here is a drawing , so it a possession , there prosecution should be "illegal possession/distribute of pornographic " , not Pedophilia . follow the "Council of Europe Convention on the Protection of Children against Sexual Exploitation and Sexual Abuse"

sorry for my bad english , here we talking about legal basis of Pedophilia
also it UK ,, even ninja knife is illegal , 15 countries over 195 isnt "almost"
 
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.Sirene

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due res[ect , before convict someone some one of something they still must be prosecuted , and all prosecution is base on so call ""corpus delicti" , there must be real victim no matter if they can be identified or contact / located aka "victimless"
and the action of crime for Pedophilia is sexual abuse , there are none here other than distribution so it not Pedophilia

here is a drawing , so it a possession , there prosecution should be "illegal possession/distribute of pornographic " , not Pedophilia . follow the "Council of Europe Convention on the Protection of Children against Sexual Exploitation and Sexual Abuse"

sorry for my bad english , here we talking about legal basis of Pedophilia
also it UK ,, even ninja knife is illegal , 15 countries over 195 isnt "almost"
1st and foremost - I was never discussing the definition of pedophilia, convictions of pedophilia or whatever else. I was primarily and exclusively talking about the drawings and depictions of minors. As I have stated above.

Secondly, I provided cases from the US also. Whatever mental gymnastics you have to perform to ignore the evidence I have presented is entirely up to you. The fact I google'd my information and found it, vs. you who seems to have the knowledge on hand is rather telling.

It's clear which side of the fence you sit. Sorry but, I won't be engaging further. As stated earlier, and once finally - I was never discussing the definition or legal issues surrounding pedophilia, I was purely discussing the possibility of conviction as a result of the ownership or distribution of content involving a minor, whether drawn, designed, animated or whatever else. If you wish to read between the lines to find some kind of message that isn't there, then I guess you're welcome to do so - but the reality is - as I've stated in simple terms, content such as this may be prosecuted in some countries.

As above, so below -
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1st and foremost - I was never discussing the definition of pedophilia, convictions of pedophilia or whatever else. I was primarily and exclusively talking about the drawings and depictions of minors. As I have stated above.

Secondly, I provided cases from the US also. Whatever mental gymnastics you have to perform to ignore the evidence I have presented is entirely up to you. The fact I google'd my information and found it, vs. you who seems to have the knowledge on hand is rather telling.

It's clear which side of the fence you sit. Sorry but, I won't be engaging further. As stated earlier, and once finally - I was never discussing the definition or legal issues surrounding pedophilia, I was purely discussing the possibility of conviction as a result of the ownership or distribution of content involving a minor, whether drawn, designed, animated or whatever else. If you wish to read between the lines to find some kind of message that isn't there, then I guess you're welcome to do so - but the reality is - as I've stated in simple terms, content such as this may be prosecuted in some countries.

As above, so below -
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cmon it just a discussion not "mental gymnastics" or anything , english not my langue so i not faimilar with that world , am not trolling you or convince you of any thing that you do not believe , still pedophilia is a very haste crime and it not considered victimless crimes required real victim , a real human being a person, not just drawing , yes if you said you google it in your country or state you still can be prosecuted for illegal procession of item but not pedophilia , just thing like in Germany you cannot play original version of "no russian" does not mean you end up in terrorist list
if you dont want to talk about this so i will stop , this is a debate no win/lost here !
 
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cmon it just a discussion not "mental gymnastics" or anything , english not my langue so i not faimilar with that world , am not trolling you or convince you of any thing that you do not believe , still pedophilia is a very haste crime and it not considered victimless crimes required real victim , a real human being a person, not just drawing , yes if you said you google it in your country or state you still can be prosecuted for illegal procession of item but not pedophilia , just thing like in Germany you cannot play original version of "no russian" does not mean you end up in terrorist list
if you dont want to talk about this so i will stop , this is a debate no win/lost here !
Again, just moral superiority, no need to overextend the argument... People this days find easier to do a keyboard war instead of caring about real children.
 

.Sirene

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Again, just moral superiority, no need to overextend the argument... People this days find easier to do a keyboard war instead of caring about real children.
Law is the law. Don't like it? Argue with a judge.

Edit - people arguing against me informing them of the current legal basis for what constitutes abuse, then, I don't know what to tell you all - if you want to really, really defend it - then you do you. I've only informed people what the law dictates in regards to content like this, if you have a problem with it - then that says more about you than you know.
 
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.Sirene

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Are you aware we're on a pirate site?
We have not gathered here to follow laws, lol.
What does that have to do with anything I've said up until this point? I'm well aware of the content on this site, and the piracy.

I'm also mature enough to understand that being a pirate on this site is optional, not obligatory.
 

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What does that have to do with anything I've said up until this point? I'm well aware of the content on this site, and the piracy.

I'm also mature enough to understand that being a pirate on this site is optional, not obligatory.
Debating with paedophiles is pointless, especially if they feel the need to point out that it is the law that does not make them paedophiles (they are still attracted to children, that is all there is to remember).
 
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.Sirene Right and sad takes, also sad what it didn’t work out to discuss, opponents just change the topic, law really affects, especially japanese censorship laws. As you said before we have real cases when people were jailed for "lolicon".
 

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What does that have to do with anything I've said up until this point? I'm well aware of the content on this site, and the piracy.

I'm also mature enough to understand that being a pirate on this site is optional, not obligatory.
I just find it funny that you're talking about the law on a site that is a pirate hideout. Now excuse me, I am behind my quota on murdering people with my warframe's powers, so I will not elaborate.

Debating with paedophiles is pointless, especially if they feel the need to point out that it is the law that does not make them paedophiles (they are still attracted to children, that is all there is to remember).
You know what's pointless? Debating with fictional pedophiles in comments on a game that is outright offensive to pedophiles, and appeals to shortstack and transformation lovers.
 
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Rashsid

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I just find it funny that you're talking about the law on a site that is a pirate hideout. Now excuse me, I am behind my quota on murdering people with my warframe's powers, so I will not elaborate.


You know what's pointless? Debating with fictional pedophiles in comments on a game that is outright offensive to pedophiles, and appeals to shortstack and transformation lovers.
just wait to this people to find out about ero guro and they will lose their minds lol
 
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