Others Borrowed Lives [v1.0.2] [Corvienne]

[Boyim]

If you go to settings, you can control the npc demographics, so if you want to increase the odds of finding a Futa, you can just go edit those variables pretty easily

Ty. Game seems cool then. Very well polished UI and solves a lot of "constantly forced to do X" things a few similar games fall into.

I'll likely revisit it after it cooks a bit and especially if there is ever an option to guarantee all of the futas domming the MC have massive penises.

 

[kingkongkim]

Very cool so far. I will keep an eye on this, but currently, it's struggling to turn everyone into a female or futa even when I changed all terminology, and keeps insisting villagers are male. Will come back in the future for sure!

 

[Myrelle]

Some bugs:
You cant sell items that you only have 1 of you get insufficient items when you try to trade
daily events disappear like help with house hold repairs, climbing the oak tree, or talking to people
exp given for doing multiple of something is the same as doing it once such as crafting
population is bugged where someone you approached gets stuck as the only person showing up in population bar everywhere
not sure if still the case but notice board quests dont give rewards upon completion
importing a save doest load the save you have to hit quickload not sure if it's a bug but very unclear
If you have multiple items like a dagger in your inventory you cant equip them anymore

 

[CboyC95]

Is there a way to disable facial hair growth because I'm playing as a femboy and I can't stand any body hair on him. Even when I had the 'body hair' fetish disabled he is still somehow growing facial hair. I'm still running into an issue where my character grows a beard and there is no option to shave facial hair from the washroom.

 

[Boyim]

Hard agree.
I would obviously like a permanent no body hair for anyone ever under any circumstances mode.

And I don't even think this is niche, this is just the standing expectation of porn from the late 90's onward.

As fun and novel of a dev problem as constant VWXYZ location hair growth rates are, considering the popularity of this stuff vs how desirable its absence is, the dev might as well have spent all that time on a dingleberry and buttpube system.

 

[corvienneetalle]

Hard agree.
I would obviously like a permanent no body hair for anyone ever under any circumstances mode.

And I don't even think this is niche, this is just the standing expectation of porn from the late 90's onward.

As fun and novel of a dev problem as constant VWXYZ location hair growth rates are, considering the popularity of this stuff vs how desirable its absence is, the dev might as well have spent all that time on a dingleberry and buttpube system.

I let out a chuckle. You can now disable body, facial, and pubic hair in settings.

 

[AtelierWanWan]

This game needs a lot more cooking to be really enjoyable but I do love the depth. Seeing all the tasks and jobs I can do, being able to just live without something else attached is really interesting. However there are many issues in the current build.

Issues:
- As people have mentioned the sex UI needs a lot of work. Having the options down the bottom but the text at the top means I have to constantly scroll up and down between them. I would suggest putting the action menu just below the text as it's more important. Outside of a full UI change during sex scenes anyway but I assume it's supposed to stay playable on mobile or something so putting participants and the clothing/toys/positions/surfaces menu on either side wouldn't work.
- I do love that you can change the position and all that but it's very bugged right now and as male I'm always top when it comes to penetration. I can suck their dick but they can't suck mine. Yet I can penetrate them but can't be penetrated by them.
- Playing as pure female I had more luck with being bottom. At first anyway, my partner was taking a bit of a lead at first which was nice to see and I liked that I was given options to let him or stop him but it didn't last long and soon it was me taking all the actions. I also can't get him to penetrate me, there's literally no option. I can suck his cock but there's no option for penetration, not even greyed out or telling me it's unavailable. Only oral and hand is available when I play female.
- My partner always seems to be some guy called Tarren, regardless of which character I was playing as myself.
- Earlier in the thread people were talking about unlocking more origins after the first death but I don't see any even as an option to begin with and I can't actually seem to die to even check it. I've been in countless fights against wolves, spiders, slimes, etc. All that happens is a run out of energy, fall to my knees, then the game continues. How do you die?
- Can't pick other races and such I assume that's future content? Was hoping that's what people meant about needing to die first but I don't know because I can't die.
- I also had this line during the start of a sexual encounter "Tarren bends you over the barrel, exposing you. Breathing ragged and desperate. There's bodies still unfamiliar. His face inches closer to yours." What is "there's bodies still unfamiliar" supposed to mean? That I'm still unfamiliar with my body, or theirs?

What I would like/questions:
- I always prefer to play as other races aside from human. I'm human. Been there, done that. What other races will be available and how will they work in the gameplay itself? Will it just be physical with some different traits? Will people react differently to different races? Will there be any discrimination? Can I be a doggo girl who gets pets and called a good girl? (raceplay?)
- Will there be some sort of companion system where people you like might join you on your journey and if so will they also be able to join sex? Could they get upset if they catch you having sex with others?
- I wasn't able to delve too much into the magic system because I stopped after being unable to die, choose other origins/races, nor have proper sex. How is that going to function and for that matter is magic something unique to the main character or is it something common and we lucked into it?
- I saw some mention of more monsters and other creatures being implemented. Will you be able to fuck them?
- How is exhibitionism going to work and this a free fuck world? The few times I had sex I had an audience and no one seemed to care what was going on. Someone kept mentioning the guards aren't going to like it but nothing ever came of that. Will you actually get in trouble for doing such things in public? Also how can you even avoid an audience, we were in a back alley but still managed to draw a crowd.
- Will there be soft bad ends where you end up in a bad situation but have a way out if you commit to it? (captured and sold into slavery, getting huge a debt, making a fatal mistake and ending up trapped)
- Will there be partners who don't respect your boundries like how you can ignore thiers?
- Will there be random events good or bad like getting accosted and molested by the guard at the gate?
- Will you be able to get drunk/drugged and have uncontrolable things happen to you? (for example getting pressured into drinking while working at the inn and being taken advantage of.)
- I'd love to see some good stealth sex mechanics. Like if you're fooling around in a crowded place/under a table and there's an awareness state you have to keep an eye on or people will start to notice and watch which could lead to more joining or you getting in trouble.

I will be keeping an eye on this game but I will not be playing it until it gets a few more updates and the initial bugs are fixed and the features I'm more interested in are cooked a little longer.

Also tags for things that are expected to be modded in by others should not be included as they are not actually part of the game itself. Saw incest and was hoping to seduce the dad but reading the thread the incest isn't actually part of the plan and just the devs hope for someone else to mod it in. (very bethesda of you).

However, my biggest grievence with the game is being misled about it's current state. I don't care about the devs opinion on what version numbers mean but it is widely and very commonly accepted that a 1.0+ is a complete release and anything beyond that is fixes and extra content. I don't understand why the dev is being so stubborn about this when it has been repeatedly pointed out. It is misleading and it is also very off putting to see the flippant and stubborn attitude about it.
I do not care about a disclaimer telling me the game is early access AFTER I download and boot the game up. This HAS to be front facing information.
As I stated I was misled when I came here expecting a full working release only to be met with a buggy VERY early release. It is disingenuous and could even be seen as manipulative. If a steam release or something being sold for money did the same they would have legal trouble.

 

[corvienneetalle]

This game needs a lot more cooking to be really enjoyable but I do love the depth. Seeing all the tasks and jobs I can do, being able to just live without something else attached is really interesting. However there are many issues in the current build.

Issues:
- As people have mentioned the sex UI needs a lot of work. Having the options down the bottom but the text at the top means I have to constantly scroll up and down between them. I would suggest putting the action menu just below the text as it's more important. Outside of a full UI change during sex scenes anyway but I assume it's supposed to stay playable on mobile or something so putting participants and the clothing/toys/positions/surfaces menu on either side wouldn't work.
- I do love that you can change the position and all that but it's very bugged right now and as male I'm always top when it comes to penetration. I can suck their dick but they can't suck mine. Yet I can penetrate them but can't be penetrated by them.
- Playing as pure female I had more luck with being bottom. At first anyway, my partner was taking a bit of a lead at first which was nice to see and I liked that I was given options to let him or stop him but it didn't last long and soon it was me taking all the actions. I also can't get him to penetrate me, there's literally no option. I can suck his cock but there's no option for penetration, not even greyed out or telling me it's unavailable. Only oral and hand is available when I play female.
- My partner always seems to be some guy called Tarren, regardless of which character I was playing as myself.
- Earlier in the thread people were talking about unlocking more origins after the first death but I don't see any even as an option to begin with and I can't actually seem to die to even check it. I've been in countless fights against wolves, spiders, slimes, etc. All that happens is a run out of energy, fall to my knees, then the game continues. How do you die?
- Can't pick other races and such I assume that's future content? Was hoping that's what people meant about needing to die first but I don't know because I can't die.
- I also had this line during the start of a sexual encounter "Tarren bends you over the barrel, exposing you. Breathing ragged and desperate. There's bodies still unfamiliar. His face inches closer to yours." What is "there's bodies still unfamiliar" supposed to mean? That I'm still unfamiliar with my body, or theirs?

What I would like/questions:
- I always prefer to play as other races aside from human. I'm human. Been there, done that. What other races will be available and how will they work in the gameplay itself? Will it just be physical with some different traits? Will people react differently to different races? Will there be any discrimination? Can I be a doggo girl who gets pets and called a good girl? (raceplay?)
- Will there be some sort of companion system where people you like might join you on your journey and if so will they also be able to join sex? Could they get upset if they catch you having sex with others?
- I wasn't able to delve too much into the magic system because I stopped after being unable to die, choose other origins/races, nor have proper sex. How is that going to function and for that matter is magic something unique to the main character or is it something common and we lucked into it?
- I saw some mention of more monsters and other creatures being implemented. Will you be able to fuck them?
- How is exhibitionism going to work and this a free fuck world? The few times I had sex I had an audience and no one seemed to care what was going on. Someone kept mentioning the guards aren't going to like it but nothing ever came of that. Will you actually get in trouble for doing such things in public? Also how can you even avoid an audience, we were in a back alley but still managed to draw a crowd.
- Will there be soft bad ends where you end up in a bad situation but have a way out if you commit to it? (captured and sold into slavery, getting huge a debt, making a fatal mistake and ending up trapped)
- Will there be partners who don't respect your boundries like how you can ignore thiers?
- Will there be random events good or bad like getting accosted and molested by the guard at the gate?
- Will you be able to get drunk/drugged and have uncontrolable things happen to you? (for example getting pressured into drinking while working at the inn and being taken advantage of.)
- I'd love to see some good stealth sex mechanics. Like if you're fooling around in a crowded place/under a table and there's an awareness state you have to keep an eye on or people will start to notice and watch which could lead to more joining or you getting in trouble.

I will be keeping an eye on this game but I will not be playing it until it gets a few more updates and the initial bugs are fixed and the features I'm more interested in are cooked a little longer.

Also tags for things that are expected to be modded in by others should not be included as they are not actually part of the game itself. Saw incest and was hoping to seduce the dad but reading the thread the incest isn't actually part of the plan and just the devs hope for someone else to mod it in. (very bethesda of you).

However, my biggest grievence with the game is being misled about it's current state. I don't care about the devs opinion on what version numbers mean but it is widely and very commonly accepted that a 1.0+ is a complete release and anything beyond that is fixes and extra content. I don't understand why the dev is being so stubborn about this when it has been repeatedly pointed out. It is misleading and it is also very off putting to see the flippant and stubborn attitude about it.
I do not care about a disclaimer telling me the game is early access AFTER I download and boot the game up. This HAS to be front facing information.
As I stated I was misled when I came here expecting a full working release only to be met with a buggy VERY early release. It is disingenuous and could even be seen as manipulative. If a steam release or something being sold for money did the same they would have legal trouble.

Thank you for playing.

1. I plan to release mods myself, nowhere did I push the responsibility on anyone else. But this is the reality of working with intense themes in games now where you cannot include it in the main build. I'm working on a modding tool for everyones use besides that, which is something most games do not have.

2. The game is not misleading - you have to accept a lengthy disclaimer about how the game is still in an incomplete state to play. If the number upsets you - I'm not sure what to say, but it is the correct versioning format. I am a solo dev making a game large in scope, this message feels entirely uncalled for but I hope you stick around and enjoy the game regardless.

3. Races and companions are planned, it states so in the roadmap. Other things like system polish of exhibitionism, fail-forward endings will be included in the next few patches.

4. If you'd like to report bugs so I can fix them so the game is in a smoother state, please do in the Discord server - thank you!

 

[Kagarus]

2. The game is not misleading - you have to accept a lengthy disclaimer about how the game is still in an incomplete state to play. If the number upsets you - I'm not sure what to say, but it is the correct versioning format. I am a solo dev making a game large in scope, this message feels entirely uncalled for but I hope you stick around and enjoy the game regardless.

While misleading may be a bit strong, and I can definitely understand feeling it being uncalled for, there is an actual expectation/culture mismatch here.
You seem to be hewing closer to the original semver convention, with major version 1 being the first public release, ergo the first release being v1.0.0 is completely correct.
Meanwhile, people here tend to be used to versioning conventions similar to what is used by many patreon games, which resembles how Steam early access games treat versions - 1.0 is the official launch version, more or less feature-complete and hopefully not too buggy, though of course expansions and reworks (and reworks of reworks; hi Stellaris!) may follow. The versions during the development up to that full release are v0.something.
You will get quite a few people that see v1 and assume that this game is more or less complete, some of them will miss the cues from the gamepage, and some of those will even click through the disclaimer ignoring it or get upset. You can definitely say that's not your problem, but it is what is is.

Anyway, I tried the first version and while yeah, it does need polish, it has a lot of potential

(And yeah, that content being outsourced to unofficial official (or official unofficial? ) mods is sadly a necessary workaround in the face of the paypro bullshit)

 

[corvienneetalle]

While misleading may be a bit strong, and I can definitely understand feeling it being uncalled for, there is an actual expectation/culture mismatch here.
You seem to be hewing closer to the original semver convention, with major version 1 being the first public release, ergo the first release being v1.0.0 is completely correct.
Meanwhile, people here tend to be used to versioning conventions similar to what is used by many patreon games, which resembles how Steam early access games treat versions - 1.0 is the official launch version, more or less feature-complete and hopefully not too buggy, though of course expansions and reworks (and reworks of reworks; hi Stellaris!) may follow. The versions during the development up to that full release are v0.something.
You will get quite a few people that see v1 and assume that this game is more or less complete, some of them will miss the cues from the gamepage, and some of those will even click through the disclaimer ignoring it or get upset. You can definitely say that's not your problem, but it is what is is.

Anyway, I tried the first version and while yeah, it does need polish, it has a lot of potential

(And yeah, that content being outsourced to unofficial official (or official unofficial? ) mods is sadly a necessary workaround in the face of the paypro bullshit)

I totally understand the culture expectation around it! I appreciate your viewpoint on it, it makes sense - I don't think I'll be addressing comments like the previous from now on.

Thank you for playing! I hope you stick around

 

[AtelierWanWan]

While misleading may be a bit strong, and I can definitely understand feeling it being uncalled for, there is an actual expectation/culture mismatch here.

I don't think it's a bit strong. To mislead someone is to give them the wrong idea or impression which this game did as I came to it. Almost none of the information presented on this page and the itch.io inform you that this game is still an early alpha. Even the features are portrayed as if they are already in the game as opposed to planned content. Even the tags which do have a "planned" section list content not within that planned section that isn't in the game and won't be until modded at a later date. The only indication there was that this was early access was a disclaimer wrapped in with the usual 18+ warnings and who reads those. So here I am interested in this new text based game that released only to find not even a fraction of the advertised content present. Only 2 of the stated "eight unique origins." Different races being locked without explanation. Getting to a sex scene to find the UI clunky and half the mechanics broken.

If I want to get really petty about it I could pick out how the itch.io page states " What's in the Game? " then proceeds to list unfinished/missing content as if it were already present. You can not "Choose your starting life - from peasant to royalty."

Literally any of this confusion could be avoided by being clear that content is planned and not using what is considered in most circles these days (not just here) as a version number for a feature complete release.

I was letting it go because I am genuinely interested in this game. It's ambitious and what is already present intrigued me. However being told by the dev that I should have known because of a disclaimer attached to another disclaimer provided AFTER I started the game itself is mildly infuriating. With how stubborn and flippant the dev is being about this issue has me worried about how they will treat feedback about the game itself as well which is truely unfortunate.

I absolutely get that dev is convinced any release of an app is a 1.0 release. I disagree on that but that's not the only aspect of this whole thing that is misleading, that mislead me.

 

[corvienneetalle]

I don't think it's a bit strong. To mislead someone is to give them the wrong idea or impression which this game did as I came to it. Almost none of the information presented on this page and the itch.io inform you that this game is still an early alpha. Even the features are portrayed as if they are already in the game as opposed to planned content. Even the tags which do have a "planned" section list content not within that planned section that isn't in the game and won't be until modded at a later date. The only indication there was that this was early access was a disclaimer wrapped in with the usual 18+ warnings and who reads those. So here I am interested in this new text based game that released only to find not even a fraction of the advertised content present. Only 2 of the stated "eight unique origins." Different races being locked without explanation. Getting to a sex scene to find the UI clunky and half the mechanics broken.

If I want to get really petty about it I could pick out how the itch.io page states " What's in the Game? " then proceeds to list unfinished/missing content as if it were already present. You can not "Choose your starting life - from peasant to royalty."

Literally any of this confusion could be avoided by being clear that content is planned and not using what is considered in most circles these days (not just here) as a version number for a feature complete release.

I was letting it go because I am genuinely interested in this game. It's ambitious and what is already present intrigued me. However being told by the dev that I should have known because of a disclaimer attached to another disclaimer provided AFTER I started the game itself is mildly infuriating. With how stubborn and flippant the dev is being about this issue has me worried about how they will treat feedback about the game itself as well which is truely unfortunate.

I absolutely get that dev is convinced any release of an app is a 1.0 release. I disagree on that but that's not the only aspect of this whole thing that is misleading, that mislead me.

The game uses a fully custom engine and mod manager. Maybe 30 or so individual systems give or take (combat, sex, stats, skills, scenes, appearance, temperature, quests), along with the thousands of lines of written content to go with it to make it alive. I'd say there's a couple hundred thousand lines of code and I'm just one person. None of this was asked for, but this is what I desired to create, for myself and those who enjoy games like this. And it's all free, all I ask for is support.

I'm sorry that you feel misled by my conventional numbering, but I've asked for patience and understanding throughout this whole process - and am very grateful to those who have helped me with their feedback and bug reports. This game has not been advertised as a finished product, but it is a project that a large amount of work has been put into. I don't have to accept every piece of feedback given to me as anyone has that right, I acknowledge your points but I would appreciate if you acknowledged mine without unwarranted accusations and insults.

I hope you continue to enjoy my game!

 

[boon4791]

If i started as the farm guy and die and resurrect to become someone else, what happen to your old family and old relationship?
Will you see them again or years would have past and the npc renewed?

 

[corvienneetalle]

If i started as the farm guy and die and resurrect to become someone else, what happen to your old family and old relationship?
Will you see them again or years would have past and the npc renewed?

If you die, all of your previous relationships will not exist with the new character - but special NPCs or NPCs who you had notable relationships with will stay in the pool for you to interact with later if you wish, and they will die with old age if enough time has passed. There will be some lore-related workarounds for this if you want to keep some relationships. I want to dive deeper into this, so I'm planning for this to be a full-fledged feature in v1.4.

 

[I-Love-Adventure]

nice game thank you

 

[LEET]

So does the game now have lingerie and customization options like more modern day games but centered around the era this game is based in?

 

[corvienneetalle]

So does the game now have lingerie and customization options like more modern day games but centered around the era this game is based in?

It has a few more options now.

 

[LEET]

It has a few more options now.

Can my tunic come in a crew neck?

 

[Heret]

This is a highly interesting project, but the task seems daunting. I really hope you succeed with this, best of luck!

 

[corvienneetalle]

This is a highly interesting project, but the task seems daunting. I really hope you succeed with this, best of luck!

It is. Thank you!

Can my tunic come in a crew neck?

Lol, no.