Braincell killing games

[Sphere42]

There's nothing corrupted by itself in the fact to have sex. It's the way you have it, and with who you have it, that can possibly be a sign of corruption. Or are you really believing that all women in your family, from your mother to your daughters, passing by your wife, are corrupted persons ?

See, the phrasing I quoted there implied that you believe that:

But on the Western scene, even if you decide to keep the MC just slightly corrupted, you generally still have lewd content during all the game ; what kind of content depend of the level of corruption you agreed for.

That's why my first assumption was poor choice of words. Only as far as games go, including Western ones, outside of sappy vanilla romance missionary it seems to hold true. Women in porn games don't get to have casual sex unless they are "corrupted" first.

Do you really believe that a virgin girl being with a boy for the first time will directly jump to furious anal sex ? Of course not, be happy if you can get a nice peck on the lips. It's only with time that she'll accept to go further, until the moment she'll agree to have sex for the first time. And with chance you'll have anal as birthday gift, or whenever you want if you are really lucky.
It's not grinding, it's life. It's not a question to acquire enough points, it's a question to acquire enough confidence to go a step further. And, once again, this do not remove the previous choices, it just opens more.

Because every girl is either a clueless virgin or a turboslut /s
Only, again, in porn games they are. Japanese ones are more strict about it but it seems Western ones agree with the premise while changing the implementation in terms of game mechanics. A male player character does come up with anal all on his own, there is no need to "teach" or "corrupt" him. A female player character does not come up with cunnilingus, heavy clit play or G-spot massage on her own nor does she indulge in any fetishes of her own. Unless she's a completely broken slut who gets off on licking dog anus of course.

These games have no qualms making a featureless scrawny creepy borderline (or not) rapist jerk the most desirable man on the planet, you can get any and all pussy you want if you just work the game's mechanics hard enough. You might even win a hand-to-hand fight with a brickhouse rival or mugger every now and then. But when it comes to women there's no freedom, no power fantasy, no realistic variety just virgins and sluts. Basically what Christian conservatives would like the world to be like. Yes such women do exist IRL, in some places they might even be the majority (the sheltered prudes ofc, not the sluts...) but they're clearly the most boring and annoying option to star in a porn game.

 

[Diconica]

See, the phrasing I quoted there implied that you believe that:

That's why my first assumption was poor choice of words. Only as far as games go, including Western ones, outside of sappy vanilla romance missionary it seems to hold true. Women in porn games don't get to have casual sex unless they are "corrupted" first.

Because every girl is either a clueless virgin or a turboslut /s
Only, again, in porn games they are. Japanese ones are more strict about it but it seems Western ones agree with the premise while changing the implementation in terms of game mechanics. A male player character does come up with anal all on his own, there is no need to "teach" or "corrupt" him. A female player character does not come up with cunnilingus, heavy clit play or G-spot massage on her own nor does she indulge in any fetishes of her own. Unless she's a completely broken slut who gets off on licking dog anus of course.

These games have no qualms making a featureless scrawny creepy borderline (or not) rapist jerk the most desirable man on the planet, you can get any and all pussy you want if you just work the game's mechanics hard enough. You might even win a hand-to-hand fight with a brickhouse rival or mugger every now and then. But when it comes to women there's no freedom, no power fantasy, no realistic variety just virgins and sluts. Basically what Christian conservatives would like the world to be like. Yes such women do exist IRL, in some places they might even be the majority (the sheltered prudes ofc, not the sluts...) but they're clearly the most boring and annoying option to star in a porn game.

That issue were they think a female having sex period is corruption is globally.
I'm convinced it is because most the developers who do this shit are either virgins and never been on dates or they think that is their target audience.

There should be a requirement when hiring new game developers for these studios.
Make them prove they aren't virgins, can actually get a date and convince a woman to do something she normally would not.

As for the Virgin Anon mention. Yep plenty of Catholic Mexican females don't consider anal as actual sex. It doesn't violate their virginity! Yep, I've been told multiple times I am saving this for my future husband but it is ok if we.

 

[DownTheDrain]

This thread is sure going places.
I was about to say that I actually like the immune booster idea in the OP as a silly little gimmick to explain the need for the MC to fuck everything that moves, but you guys wall-of-text'd far beyond the initial topic already.

 

[Diconica]

This thread is sure going places.
I was about to say that I actually like the immune booster idea in the OP as a silly little gimmick to explain the need for the MC to fuck everything that moves, but you guys wall-of-text'd far beyond the initial topic already.

That's been covered. It wouldn't boost immunity in the way they try to make out and certainly not for the reasons they listed.

As far as the wall-of-text it is a discussion form hence discussion.

 

[anne O'nymous]

That's why my first assumption was poor choice of words. Only as far as games go, including Western ones, outside of sappy vanilla romance missionary it seems to hold true. Women in porn games don't get to have casual sex unless they are "corrupted" first.

Well, name games where it's true. But it will not be as easy as you think, because you're confusing everything. It's not because they need to be corrupted before they have sex with their corrupter, that they never had sex before.

In incest games, the mother will not have sex with her son before he corrupt her, but since she's the mother, she obviously had sex before. Same for the sisters. There's almost never more than one who's a virgin, while there's almost always one who's a slut, and one that have a jerk as boyfriend.
The same apply for pure corruption games, even those with a female MC. The girls are rarely virgin, what mean that they had a sex life before being corrupted. Some of them are even mothers.
In fact, the only case where it apply is pure loli games. Yet, even in those games you achieve to find lolis that had sex before their father start to pursue them.

As I said, what define the corruption is not the fact to have sex, but with who, and under which condition, it will happen.

A female player character does not come up with cunnilingus, heavy clit play or G-spot massage on her own nor does she indulge in any fetishes of her own. Unless she's a completely broken slut who gets off on licking dog anus of course.

Once again you forgot the part that change everything, they need to be corrupted before they'll do this with the MC ; or the males characters in the game if the girl is the MC.
Take A Wife and Mother by example, and tell me that a mother of two never had sex before... Yet unless you corrupt her, you'll only have one scene with her husband. Same for the already named Good Girl Gone Bad, where the MC isn't a virgin, but will obviously not start to have sex with the bad guys before you corrupt her. And it goes on and on, near to all Western corruption games with a female protagonist have a MC that already had sex.
It's not because most of those games do not depict the girls having sex with their official boyfriend, that they never had sex before. It's just that the authors don't want to bother with scenes that no one will see. This while people who decide to play the "not corrupted" route generally do it for the purpose of the romance, and therefore don't really want to see sex scenes.

 

[DownTheDrain]

That's been covered. It wouldn't boost immunity in the way they try to make out and certainly not for the reasons they listed.

Of course it wouldn't, but at least it'd be different from the usual you've been a loser all your life but now you gained power X or made a pact with demon Y that you usually get in harem settings, if you get any explanation at all.

I have no idea what game you're talking about, so it might be all kinds of terrible for other reasons, but I'll take a somewhat silly setup over no setup or something that's been done to death.

 

[Flecc]

Can honestly say this thread has killed my brain cells . A game is a game its fantasy its pixels .perhaps the author could put no pixels were hurt during the making of this game ,To appease the sensitive types .Brain cell killing games is subjective one man/women's dead brain cell is another man / woman's heaven. Live and let live don't judge (if it is kept with in the confines of you jurisdiction law ) Peace !

 

[Sphere42]

or the males characters in the game if the girl is the MC.

But there are no male characters in the game you can have uncorrupted sex with, even if by all means there should be. Chances are you can't masturbate or buy a vibrator without some unlocking or stat-raising incident beforehand.

This while people who decide to play the "not corrupted" route generally do it for the purpose of the romance, and therefore don't really want to see sex scenes.

Are you talking exclusively about dedicated corruption games? Because I at least do want to see sex without corruption, only it often seems impossible to find any without committing to a full star-crossed romance story. Basically a game where you play like the male MC of a non-corruption game but as a female. Male MCs take a lot more effort to "fix" because ultimately you'll still have gameplay gating the sex which is inherently close to the objectification of women being handed out as prizes.

 

[morphnet]

Take the idea the girl giving a blow job is going to boost the other person's immune system. Well she is getting fluid from him and at most he is getting her saliva on his dick. Let's pretend that her saliva is special and will effect him through the dermis layer.
If that was the case she has no need to give blow jobs or sex she could just walk around spitting on everyone!

In short there is a massive plot-hole because the author didn't care about it make any sense at all.

That's different from a character who makes irrational choices or a mechanic that catches you in an unexpected way.

This is just bad story telling or design from the very basis of the story.

If you are going to take fantasy and try apply real life to it, then give an example, don't you think you argument should have less holes than the story you are trying to discredit?

"If that was the case she has no need to give blow jobs or sex she could just walk around spitting on everyone!" Nope, for someone trying to sound like they know what they are talking about this "example" is full of holes.

1) If she just "spat on everyone" there is no guarantee the amount of saliva from each spit would have enough "special" to help.
2) What are the chances enough of the saliva you be adsorbed?
3) What are the chances a strange would not immediately wipe off the spit, some random person spitting on you, would YOU just leave it there?
4) What are the chances of this woman not being arrested for going around spitting on random people? (now she can't help anyone...she's in jail)
5) What are the chances she doesn't get sent to a padded cell in a looney bin for claiming she spit is "special"? (now she is not helping anyone for a loooooong time in a padded cell)

If you are going to argue a point stick to the point, all you did was prove your example had as many "massive plot-holes" as the story you didn't like and that you "didn't care about it make any sense at all" Pity you couldn't put as much thought into your argument as you did the story you didn't like, "bad example telling or design from the very basis of the example" if you ask me.

Your OP implies you expect a certain level of detail and quality from the games you play, should we, the people reading your thread then not expect the same from you? How important can facts, details, quality be to you if you are not willing to apply them to your own thread when complaining about the lack of them?

There is a thing called artistic licence, it has helped characters fly, walk through walls, turn invisible, catch people falling off buildings and more than a few guys get laid by aliens.

" Artistic license allows artists to distort facts, change rules or omit details to improve their work of art "

You must be registered to see the links

Artistic license refers to deviation from fact or form for artistic purposes.

You must be registered to see the links

They are porn games, fantasy, make believe, NOT real.... Just enjoy it for what it is, some make believe with cute girls / guys and tits and smiles.

 

[Nicknameunico]

Those don't count, bro. They're "Western Style Porn" games. Not hentai games. Western Style generally have the stories and fetishes on point, but the art suffers. Hentai is contrary. Nonsensical plots made by woman hating incels but top-notch art.

western porn games are shit both plots and art. Let's be real.
I don't know why some of yall seem to like those western porn games here. The 3D maybe? Hmmmpf

 

[Creiz]

western porn games are shit both plots and art. Let's be real.
I don't know why some of yall seem to like those western porn games here. The 3D maybe? Hmmmpf

You're pretty much proving my point there lol

 

[aura-dev]

Does Twitter count?

 

[VegitoHlove]

This thread is quite the adventure. Personally, I don't really care if a game is unrealistic or not. I don't need a game that references some trope or concept to be 100% accurate. The point of fiction is that you get to make shit up. OP was making a complaint(?) about how transferring immunity via sex is braincell killing idea and not how that works.

What about magic? Dragons? Wearing a full suit of amour whilst having several more jammed up the ass? I could go on forever.

Also when I read things like xyz game is " misogynistic" or "unrealistic body proportions" etc. Now THAT makes me lose braincells. It also make me stop taking the person whom said it seriously. Or should I say person whom typed it? As we all know I can't actually hear anybody here, only read what they've typed otherwise it's unrealistic.

 

[zuulan]

This topic has turned too much for troll fest. Thought i know there is alot of stupid people who dont make difference in reality and fantacy and often think. If they see in fantacy movie that they eat fire that it will give them reality that power also . It is fact there is stupid people, but why sensible people should care about people who dont make difference in reality. SHould this forum be closed and all be required to have IQ test to get access here. Sometimes it hurt me to see stupid people, but i know every day scores of stupid people destroy they lifes, beliving they make something better. So why bow down the needs of idiots. Just let everyone takes responsibility for themself.

 

[Diconica]

This thread is quite the adventure. Personally, I don't really care if a game is unrealistic or not. I don't need a game that references some trope or concept to be 100% accurate. The point of fiction is that you get to make shit up. OP was making a complaint(?) about how transferring immunity via sex is braincell killing idea and not how that works.

What about magic? Dragons? Wearing a full suit of amour whilst having several more jammed up the ass? I could go on forever.

Also when I read things like xyz game is " misogynistic" or "unrealistic body proportions" etc. Now THAT makes me lose braincells. It also make me stop taking the person whom said it seriously. Or should I say person whom typed it? As we all know I can't actually hear anybody here, only read what they've typed otherwise it's unrealistic.

It isn't that a game needs to be 100% realistic. It needs to be logical in nature.
Take a magic system would a society use magic if the out comes is entirely random and can't be predicted? No. Not unless some person is trying to cause serious mayhem. In short maybe a terrorist would but the general populace wouldn't.
When you write any system you introduce to the reader needs to make a certain amount of sense. If it exists in reality it should mimic what reality has. When people don't do that it kills immersion.

The point of this post is there are a lot of people who write about stuff they have no understanding of and never take the time to do the least amount of research not even 5 minutes of time.

 

[VegitoHlove]

It isn't that a game needs to be 100% realistic. It needs to be logical in nature.
Take a magic system would a society use magic if the out comes is entirely random and can't be predicted? No. Not unless some person is trying to cause serious mayhem. In short maybe a terrorist would but the general populace wouldn't.
When you write any system you introduce to the reader needs to make a certain amount of sense. If it exists in reality it should mimic what reality has. When people don't do that it kills immersion.

The point of this post is there are a lot of people who write about stuff they have no understanding of and never take the time to do the least amount of research not even 5 minutes of time.

And the point of my post is that I find that there is no need to adhere to logic to make a fun game. Is it bad when it does adhere to logic? No. Of course not. That said there are many games (like all of them) that you have something that exists in reality that aren't accurately portrayed yet do just find.

 

[Diconica]

And the point of my post is that I find that there is no need to adhere to logic to make a fun game. Is it bad when it does adhere to logic? No. Of course not. That said there are many games (like all of them) that you have something that exists in reality that aren't accurately portrayed yet do just find.

There is an entire professional industry in game development and literature that would disagree you.
It doesn't need to mimic something exactly but give a general basic representation.
You can even replace system for an alternate world or universe if it has some logic and sense behind it.
But it has to make some form of sense.

I've seen people show the door in game development for lesser issues. This is pretty much a guarantee you are gone.
Book publishing. It is a fast as hell reject. If you have several books already published and they sold good you might get a response suggesting you work on that and resubmit. Keyword is might.

 

[nulnil]

Something I've noticed in media is "depth of reason". Depth of reason is pretty much the layers of explanation to a non-existant thing in a fictional verse. It makes a verse more believable at the cost of restricting what an author can do.
For example say we have a magic system:

Why can't anyone just cast magic?
Perhaps someone must be a wizard to cast magic.

Well then, what makes wizards capable and non-wizards not?
Maybe the wizards are trained extensively, come from a special lineage, or chosen by a diety.

Alright, but what about this training/lineage/choosing seperates them from the non-wizards?
Dude, shut up.

Now obviously it can't go forever otherwise you'd have to make a whole physics system, which would be really boring. Better pieces of media (lore/story wise) have better depth of reason. This generally makes them more consistant and can create intresting scenarios while still having a verse be within "realism".

 

[Diconica]

Something I've noticed in media is "depth of reason". Depth of reason is pretty much the layers of explanation to a non-existant thing in a fictional verse. It makes a verse more believable at the cost of restricting what an author can do.
For example say we have a magic system:

Why can't anyone just cast magic?
Perhaps someone must be a wizard to cast magic.

Well then, what makes wizards capable and non-wizards not?
Maybe the wizards are trained extensively, come from a special lineage, or chosen by a diety.

Alright, but what about this training/lineage/choosing seperates them from the non-wizards?
Dude, shut up.

Now obviously it can't go forever otherwise you'd have to make a whole physics system, which would be really boring. Better pieces of media (lore/story wise) have better depth of reason. This generally makes them more consistant and can create intresting scenarios while still having a verse be within "realism".

There are writers that create very large catalogs of their worlds and how stuff works. JRR Tolkien was probably at the extreme of that.

Take your magic system you mentioned above if the only thing that separates wizards from non wizards is training eventually the people outside of those schools would still learn it.
Understand the wizards had to learn some how. It could be experimentation it could be observing magical creatures casting spells. They learned. Unless magic is passed down as a divine act to an individual then others will learn it.
Even then if it is something that can be learned you can bet someone will sell that information or teach small amounts to someone not in the school at some point. Then it spreads.

If we look at other reasons or system regarding magic you could find a limited number of people have the actual potential to use magic. Thus it explains much easier why magic isn't more common place. You can see a similar system if you look to "star wars" and the force.

The only things that really restricts an author when dealing with systems is his own imagination and their knowledge/education.
Imagination is the tool that lets you apply knowledge/education in new ways to solve problems.

 

[Johnson_Carl]

This while on the Asian scene, games tend to be an "all or nothing" situation.

Personally I prefer it this way. If the game has a choice between "Pure love route" or "NTR route" I'll go NTR and never touch pure love cause:

1) For fapping I much prefer NTR, pls dont judge me and

2) Going from NTR to Pure love, or just knowing there's a pure route is soul crushing. Thinking she could be happy living with the MC but I choose NTR it's like I've done this fictional character so wrong.