RPGM Completed BreedTown 3 [Early Access] [Thatcombatwombat]

[fyreant]

? But he didn't confess to any crimes though? He agreed he had superpowers, he confessed that he'd impregnated a shitload of women (not illegal in and of itself), and he theorized Fertech had shady connections (not something he's responsible for). Did I miss something?

Also, a confession wouldn't mean much anyway when the entire reason Brando hasn't been arrested yet for already obviously having commited several is being backed up by Fertech.

Even if he didn't commit actual sex crimes in the previous games (which he totally did in BT2 - remember the scene with the Baker?), evading child support responsibilities is a crime. Men who moved out of town and changed their name after hearing they'd got a girl pregnant have served 5+ year prison sentences in the real world, and that's for doing it ONCE, rather than hundreds of times.

Having a corporation with "shady connections" shielding you from prosecution for your illegal behavior is not a legal defense. It's the exact opposite of a legal defense.

The importance of the confession is that it's evidence that Reed was well aware all these women were getting pregnant and that he was wilfully evading his legal obligations. Plausible deniability was his only possible defense, and that video recording destroys it.

I enjoy playing as Nero it was fun playing someone different and the mystery is pretty nice but pretty easy to deduce if you read the dialogue . I think the one thing that makes Brandon a monster and a complete jerk is the lack of empathy to victims and the lack of responsibility. I think his redemption if it would ever come to fruition is to take some responsibility. IDK if this is the direction it's taking or he is just going to be a loose renegade running away from his actions.

He comes right out and says in no uncertain terms that he's a bad guy with no morals at the very beginning of the first game.

The wrongness and immorality is the whole appeal of this game series. There are already a bajillion impregnation-themed games where all the girls become willing harem members who worship the main character and his godly dick forever etc. The Breedtowns are the only games that allow the main impregnator character to be a shameless asshole about it, that's why I love them.

 

[Orangeyouglad]

The key to the culprit's identity is the timing of Reed's activities. You need to interrogate the crazy murderer lady in the neighboring office building in order to know who it was. Also talk to the old "leprechaun"-looking man with the beard. If you didn't do the wine->beer puzzle for Vinny in the break room you are missing a lot of key info.



That makes one of us ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)



Shoot at the scary eyes when they appear on screen. Don't worry about accidentally killing a hot girl. Nero is the only person who can die in this game.

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[vinaren]

Good game, but the second one was better.

I only got 1 ending, don't know how to get the second one unless is killing Brandon (which I won't do). Is there another way to get it?

I have no idea what the fuck will they bring in the 4th one, but I almost shitted myself on the ice cream. Amazing. It will probably hit somebody close to home, or not, it is a porn game after all.

I'm calling a bluff on the abortion tho.

There is only 1 true ending. If you arrest too soon or arrest wrong girl, you get the normal ending. If Nero dies (there are 3 ways to make that happen), you get the bad ending.

The abortion is real. If you choose to kill Brandon, Nero will get the death sentence, which cannot happen to a pregnant woman.

 

[SnooChicken740]

Even if he didn't commit actual sex crimes in the previous games (which he totally did in BT2 - remember the scene with the Baker?), evading child support responsibilities is a crime. Men who moved out of town and changed their name after hearing they'd got a girl pregnant have served 5+ year prison sentences in the real world, and that's for doing it ONCE, rather than hundreds of times.

Having a corporation with "shady connections" shielding you from prosecution for your illegal behavior is not a legal defense. It's the exact opposite of a legal defense.

The importance of the confession is that it's evidence that Reed was well aware all these women were getting pregnant and that he was wilfully evading his legal obligations. Plausible deniability was his only possible defense, and that video recording destroys it.



He comes right out and says in no uncertain terms that he's a bad guy with no morals at the very beginning of the first game.

The wrongness and immorality is the whole appeal of this game series. There are already a bajillion impregnation-themed games where all the girls become willing harem members who worship the main character and his godly dick forever etc. The Breedtowns are the only games that allow the main impregnator character to be a shameless asshole about it, that's why I love them.

Except he never said he was shielded from persecution did he? I believe all he said was that they dealt with it, and separately that they also had shady connections. Not that they solved the problem shadily. Which anyone would immediately assume is connected, but isn't nearly definitive enough for a court of law. It's not an admission of guilt, just grounds for further investigation (on fertech that is, which is what Nero is planning to do).

He's not admitting to evading child support, he's admitting to it being dealt with by fertech by unspecified means. For all he knows, they're handling it by some legitimate means, so even if they find women who were impregnated off the books, haven't been paid (assuming that's actually the case) and willing to testify against him in a way that'll get him imprisoned (far from a given, the women rarely seem to want him punished much) he can just say "I thought Fertech was paying for them" and then the fight would be on fertech instead. To get Brandon they have to get fertech first.

And even if they did find out that particular thing was handled shadily, I wonder how much Brandon would be liable for anyway? While his negligence is almost definitely enough for legal judgement, he also doesn't really have any means to learn details because of his extremely low level of real authority in fertech, which would greatly mitigate that. And I guess they could start forcing him to start paying child support, but it's also unrealistic to expect him to pay even a fraction of it so I wonder how that would even work out. Plus, like 99% of the impregnations happened while he was basically their direct property (which should mitigate his responsibility), and most were probably under their direct orders (and he can't say no - though I do wonder if him being fine with it means that inability doesn't matter). I guess maybe the sheer magnitude of his impregnations would make any sort of "mitigation" worthless anyway (since it'd presumably total to a life sentence regardless of how much it's reduced)? This is actually a genuinely interesting legal conundrum.

And I never said anything about him being moral. He absolutely is a terrible person. But the topic is legal liability and on the topic of Brandon not having been arrested yet despite presumably having admitted to a crime.

 

[vinaren]

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Two? In addition to BR, who is the remaining one?

 

[piki000]

Two? In addition to BR, who is the remaining one?

I think in one of the endings Mia gets killed by her family? I may be wrong though I haven't played for all the endings

 

[vinaren]

Except he never said he was shielded from persecution did he? I believe all he said was that they dealt with it, and separately that they also had shady connections. Not that they solved the problem shadily. Which anyone would immediately assume is connected, but isn't nearly definitive enough for a court of law. It's not an admission of guilt, just grounds for further investigation (on fertech that is, which is what Nero is planning to do).

He's not admitting to evading child support, he's admitting to it being dealt with by fertech by unspecified means. For all he knows, they're handling it by some legitimate means, so even if they find women who were impregnated off the books, haven't been paid (assuming that's actually the case) and willing to testify against him in a way that'll get him imprisoned (far from a given, the women rarely seem to want him punished much) he can just say "I thought Fertech was paying for them" and then the fight would be on fertech instead. To get Brandon they have to get fertech first.

And even if they did find out that particular thing was handled shadily, I wonder how much Brandon would be liable for anyway? While his negligence is almost definitely enough for legal judgement, he also doesn't really have any means to learn details because of his extremely low level of real authority in fertech, which would greatly mitigate that. And I guess they could start forcing him to start paying child support, but it's also unrealistic to expect him to pay even a fraction of it so I wonder how that would even work out. Plus, like 99% of the impregnations happened while he was basically their direct property (which should mitigate his responsibility), and most were probably under their direct orders (and he can't say no - though I do wonder if him being fine with it means that inability doesn't matter). I guess maybe the sheer magnitude of his impregnations would make any sort of "mitigation" worthless anyway (since it'd presumably total to a life sentence regardless of how much it's reduced)? This is actually a genuinely interesting legal conundrum.

And I never said anything about him being moral. He absolutely is a terrible person. But the topic is legal liability and on the topic of Brandon not having been arrested yet despite presumably having admitted to a crime.

It looks like you are quite knowledgeable about laws.
Do you think the ending in which Nero gets executed is realistic?
I mean, she must be arrested right after killing Brando (her police companion is right outside the room). She got impregnated willingly and didn't have any health problems, therefore she shouldn't be able to get an abortion. And since she was pregnant, a death sentence would be impossible.

I think in one of the endings Mia gets killed by her family? I may be wrong though I haven't played for all the endings

That's only her imagination, it didn't happen.

 

[SnooChicken740]

It looks like you are quite knowledgeable about laws.
Do you think the ending in which Nero gets executed is realistic?
I mean, she must be arrested right after killing Brando (her police companion is right outside the room). She got impregnated willingly and didn't have any health problems, therefore she shouldn't be able to get an abortion. And since she was pregnant, a death sentence would be impossible.


That's only her imagination, it didn't happen.

No i'm not particularly knowledgeable about laws. Basically all that my argument is based on is the rudimentary knowledge that a proper sentence requires proving he's guilty without a shadow of a doubt, and yet Brandon never testified to specifically something that is absolutely a crime, just something which alludes to it. I don't think he can be convicted for that unless he has bad lawyers, but he definitely doesn't. And the last paragraph is purely a theoretical conundrum that I have no ability to solve.

Tbh I think the part about Nero being executed is likely an oversight and combatwombat simply didn't know about any such law and also didn't really think about it well enough. He may have mentally noted to himself that Nero wasn't pregnant because she gets an abortion in the other ending and therefore just never considered how that would work.

Though it's also entirely possible that the law is just different and she was either allowed to have the abortion or something like early pregnancy wouldn't count against the death sentence. Though the latter that also assumes the execution came about REALLY fast which absolutely wouldn't be the case for the US lol.

 

[fyreant]

Except he never said he was shielded from persecution did he? I believe all he said was that they dealt with it, and separately that they also had shady connections. Not that they solved the problem shadily. Which anyone would immediately assume is connected, but isn't nearly definitive enough for a court of law. It's not an admission of guilt, just grounds for further investigation (on fertech that is, which is what Nero is planning to do).

He's not admitting to evading child support, he's admitting to it being dealt with by fertech by unspecified means. For all he knows, they're handling it by some legitimate means, so even if they find women who were impregnated off the books, haven't been paid (assuming that's actually the case) and willing to testify against him in a way that'll get him imprisoned (far from a given, the women rarely seem to want him punished much) he can just say "I thought Fertech was paying for them" and then the fight would be on fertech instead. To get Brandon they have to get fertech first.

And even if they did find out that particular thing was handled shadily, I wonder how much Brandon would be liable for anyway? While his negligence is almost definitely enough for legal judgement, he also doesn't really have any means to learn details because of his extremely low level of real authority in fertech, which would greatly mitigate that. And I guess they could start forcing him to start paying child support, but it's also unrealistic to expect him to pay even a fraction of it so I wonder how that would even work out. Plus, like 99% of the impregnations happened while he was basically their direct property (which should mitigate his responsibility), and most were probably under their direct orders (and he can't say no - though I do wonder if him being fine with it means that inability doesn't matter). I guess maybe the sheer magnitude of his impregnations would make any sort of "mitigation" worthless anyway (since it'd presumably total to a life sentence regardless of how much it's reduced)? This is actually a genuinely interesting legal conundrum.

And I never said anything about him being moral. He absolutely is a terrible person. But the topic is legal liability and on the topic of Brandon not having been arrested yet despite presumably having admitted to a crime.

The first part is sort of true, which is why Nero didn't just arrest him years ago, but went to all the trouble of the confession video.

True, Reed might have been able to make the defense you're suggesting, saying "I thought Fertech was paying for them" and trying to pawn it off on them...

...but his whole rambling monologue about how being able to ruin a girl's life by getting her pregnant and then walk away without taking any responsibility "makes him feel like a god" completely demolishes that. I can imagine whatever defense lawyer he was assigned repeatedly slamming his/her forehead onto the desk during that portion of the monologue. No jury in the world would let him walk free after listening to that spiel.

Being 'direct property' of Fertech isn't a defense. They didn't buy him on an auction block or something. The reason they "own" him is because they were shielding him from destitution as a result of all the irresponsible breeding he'd been doing BEFORE his association with the company.

"My boss told me to do it" doesn't get you off the hook for committing crimes. At all. Legally speaking, he's fucked. It'll be interesting to see what the starting point for the finale is.

That's only her imagination, it didn't happen.

It wasn't just her imagination. Although Mia doesn't actually get killed even in the worst ending for her where she's deported, the ending slide featuring her implies she was right to be afraid.

 

[MisterDuck]

Although Mia doesn't actually get killed even in the worst ending for her where she's deported, the ending slide featuring her implies she was right to be afraid.

Her mother successfully prevented her family from becoming too angry, but saying "Mia's family didn't kill her" is low bar

 

[Leo D. Marstone]

It's getting way too serious with this game now.
Breedtown was all about going around impregnating woman and leaning heavily into pregnancy niche fetish. Just dumb fun overall.

Now the whole thread is not about the game itself but about the morality of it all.

I don't fucking care if Brandon has god like lawyers or if he should be stoned to death for his atrocitys. It is a porn game at the end of it all.
I just want to "Gotta catch em all" style impregnate all the girls the game gives me and not play as someone that judges all aspects that made the previous games so much fun and telling me how bad it all is.

The second game is still the GOAT from CW.

Dunno how to feel where this is all heading.

 

[MisterDuck]

There are already a bajillion impregnation-themed games where all the girls become willing harem members who worship the main character and his godly dick forever etc.

Share them, I love the topic

 

[deskt]

Except he never said he was shielded from persecution did he? I believe all he said was that they dealt with it, and separately that they also had shady connections. Not that they solved the problem shadily. Which anyone would immediately assume is connected, but isn't nearly definitive enough for a court of law. It's not an admission of guilt, just grounds for further investigation (on fertech that is, which is what Nero is planning to do).

I'll make it short, most of the things you say don't make sense, Brandon confessed to multiple crimes, He also confessed to being part of an organization that hires him and they deal with his disasters, and that's enough to put Brandon behind bars and file him as "under investigation" while more evidence is obtained from the organization, it makes no sense to let Brando go, Duna would also have to be arrested but Nero made a deal with her in exchange for information and she ended up in witness protection. You say things without knowing how they work.

It's getting way too serious with this game now.
Breedtown was all about going around impregnating woman and leaning heavily into pregnancy niche fetish. Just dumb fun overall.

nah it's just that the story is interesting, that says a lot about the quality of the dev

 

[SnooChicken740]

I'll make it short, most of the things you say don't make sense, Brandon confessed to multiple crimes, He also confessed to being part of an organization that hires him and they deal with his disasters, and that's enough to put Brandon behind bars and file him as "under investigation" while more evidence is obtained from the organization, it makes no sense to let Brando go, Duna would also have to be arrested but Nero made a deal with her in exchange for information and she ended up in witness protection. You say things without knowing how they work.


nah it's just that the story is interesting, that says a lot about the quality of the dev

What crimes though? That's like the exact part that you shouldn't be keeping short here.

And what does "He also confessed to being part of an organization that hires him and they deal with his disasters" even mean? What are you even trying to say here? It's not a crime to be part of an organization, nor to be hired, nor to "deal with disasters".

They can definitely make an arrest on him, yeah, but they legally cannot keep him without forever without proper prosecution and either way doing so would be extremely detrimental to any sort of further investigation of fertech. It would be an incredibly stupid move. In fact, in retrospect I think that's the main issue: even if she could theoretically get Brandon right now, doing so would make it significantly harder to deal with fertech later.

The first part is sort of true, which is why Nero didn't just arrest him years ago, but went to all the trouble of the confession video.

True, Reed might have been able to make the defense you're suggesting, saying "I thought Fertech was paying for them" and trying to pawn it off on them...

...but his whole rambling monologue about how being able to ruin a girl's life by getting her pregnant and then walk away without taking any responsibility "makes him feel like a god" completely demolishes that. I can imagine whatever defense lawyer he was assigned repeatedly slamming his/her forehead onto the desk during that portion of the monologue. No jury in the world would let him walk free after listening to that spiel.

Being 'direct property' of Fertech isn't a defense. They didn't buy him on an auction block or something. The reason they "own" him is because they were shielding him from destitution as a result of all the irresponsible breeding he'd been doing BEFORE his association with the company.

"My boss told me to do it" doesn't get you off the hook for committing crimes. At all. Legally speaking, he's fucked. It'll be interesting to see what the starting point for the finale is.


It wasn't just her imagination. Although Mia doesn't actually get killed even in the worst ending for her where she's deported, the ending slide featuring her implies she was right to be afraid.

Didn't remember that exact part of the monologue, that definitely makes it look a lot worse, particularly "being able to ruin a girl's life" (assuming he said that verbatum).

And in regards to their ownership of him, I was under the impression he had signed a really severe contract that essentially makes him a legal slave, of similar dystopian nature as the contract of the employees in this new company? Or is it just as you imply, because he's fucked without them? In case you couldn't tell, I read the dialogue perhaps a little too fast.

 

[deskt]

What crimes though? That's like the exact part that you shouldn't be keeping short here.

Don't you know that the denial of paternity and maternity is punishable by law? and in the game it is made very clear that this law exists

And what does "He also confessed to being part of an organization that hires him and they deal with his disasters" even mean? What are you even trying to say here? It's not a crime to be part of an organization, nor to be hired, nor to "deal with disasters".

That is, he confesses to having denied multiple paternity even when the woman's situation were not favorable and that fertch helps him avoid that type of responsibilities

They can definitely make an arrest on him, yeah, but they legally cannot keep him without forever without proper prosecution and either way doing so would be extremely detrimental to any sort of further investigation of fertech. It would be an incredibly stupid move. In fact, in retrospect I think that's the main issue: even if she could theoretically get Brandon right now, doing so would make it significantly harder to deal with fertech later.

Nero has an event, he has witnesses, he has confirmations from the women, he also has evidence caught on camera.... all the steps to imprison him have already been completed
Putting him in jail does not present any problem to the police, only Fertch, letting go Brando who is not going to cooperate with the police does not offer any benefits either, at no time did they say anything like keeping him under surveillance or anything like that

It would be better if this ending was reserved for the last game as an alternative ending or as the end of the story Right now it doesn't make any sense to let Brandon go, they could just make contact with him and that's it, but recording him and making him confess through seduction is already doing all the work, all because of having to add a sex scene with Nero.

 

[1411]

Don't you know that the denial of paternity and maternity is punishable by law? and in the game it is made very clear that this law exists

That is, he confesses to having denied multiple paternity even when the woman's situation were not favorable and that fertch helps him avoid that type of responsibilities

Nero has an event, he has witnesses, he has confirmations from the women, he also has evidence caught on camera.... all the steps to imprison him have already been completed
Putting him in jail does not present any problem to the police, only Fertch, letting go Brando who is not going to cooperate with the police does not offer any benefits either, at no time did they say anything like keeping him under surveillance or anything like that

It would be better if this ending was reserved for the last game as an alternative ending or as the end of the story Right now it doesn't make any sense to let Brandon go, they could just make contact with him and that's it, but recording him and making him confess through seduction is already doing all the work, all because of having to add a sex scene with Nero.

maybe her letting him go had something to do with the vague mind control effect he has on women, she hates him and is the only confirmed person to abort one of his children but somehow convinced herself that letting him go was the right move despite all that

either way if nero does show up in the 4th game i would be very surprised if she doesn't get knocked up again and keeps it that time, maybe she finds a way to justify it to herself or his mind virus gets stronger with repeated contact and just accepts it

 

[deskt]

maybe her letting him go had something to do with the vague mind control effect he has on women, she hates him and is the only confirmed person to abort one of his children but somehow convinced herself that letting him go was the right move despite all that

either way if nero does show up in the 4th game i would be very surprised if she doesn't get knocked up again and keeps it that time, maybe she finds a way to justify it to herself or his mind virus gets stronger with repeated contact and just accepts it

and what about his partner he also got pregnant by brandon that let him go outside the motel? He knew what happened inside, idk about nero i would be surprised is she get more sex with brandon even though she now know what would be happen theres no point for her to do that

 

[SnooChicken740]

Don't you know that the denial of paternity and maternity is punishable by law? and in the game it is made very clear that this law exists

That is, he confesses to having denied multiple paternity even when the woman's situation were not favorable and that fertch helps him avoid that type of responsibilities

Nero has an event, he has witnesses, he has confirmations from the women, he also has evidence caught on camera.... all the steps to imprison him have already been completed
Putting him in jail does not present any problem to the police, only Fertch, letting go Brando who is not going to cooperate with the police does not offer any benefits either, at no time did they say anything like keeping him under surveillance or anything like that

It would be better if this ending was reserved for the last game as an alternative ending or as the end of the story Right now it doesn't make any sense to let Brandon go, they could just make contact with him and that's it, but recording him and making him confess through seduction is already doing all the work, all because of having to add a sex scene with Nero.

Denial of paternity and maternity and paying child support is punishable by law, yes? I already pointed out that he never admitted to never paying child support, just that fertech handles everything for him, which any good lawyer would argue implies they pay it for him or somehow handle it by other perfectly legal means exclusive to this world (even if that's not what Brandon actually meant). Or is there also some requirement that you need to do it yourself?

Saying "my superiors handle it" is not an admission that no child support is being paid.

Witnesses requires that a decent number of the women who went to Nero are actually willing to testify against Brandon in a court of law explicitly to see him jailed. Due to Brandon's pseudo mind control thing, that's not even close to a given.

I'd also be arguing here that he could simply argue "thought fertech was paying for it", but yeah, the other guy pointing out that he said he "being able to ruin a girl's life " during the recording makes me think that defense would be fairly weak (but still not useless). If they get a bunch of victims to testify, then yes, I think he'd have a hard time defending himself.

Though yes, again, it does present problems to the police. As said, specifically the fact that it would increase fertech's guard and potentially aggression. It would massively impede their ability to actually investigate the company. Currently Fertech doesn't even know Nero is after them (they just know some client "Sophie" had hidden their identity well), but if Brandon was actually arrested they would do their absolute best to sabotage any future investigations by not just Nero but the whole police. They'd likely even start meddling with the police even more in an attempt to get him out, and due to the rest of this game's ending would likely get help from Yuland for that as well, not to mention the mafia from the second game.

Making fertech hostile before they have a really good case against them is a horrendous idea.

 

[deskt]

Denial of paternity and maternity and paying child support is punishable by law, yes? I already pointed out that he never admitted to never paying child support, just that fertech handles everything for him, which any good lawyer would argue implies they pay it for him or somehow handle it by other perfectly legal means exclusive to this world (even if that's not what Brandon actually meant). Or is there also some requirement that you need to do it yourself?

Saying "my superiors handle it" is not an admission that no child support is being paid.

Witnesses requires that a decent number of the women who went to Nero are actually willing to testify against Brandon in a court of law explicitly to see him jailed. Due to Brandon's pseudo mind control thing, that's not even close to a given.

I'd also be arguing here that he could simply argue "thought fertech was paying for it", but yeah, the other guy pointing out that he said he "being able to ruin a girl's life " during the recording makes me think that defense would be fairly weak (but still not useless). If they get a bunch of victims to testify, then yes, I think he'd have a hard time defending himself.

Though yes, again, it does present problems to the police. As said, specifically the fact that it would increase fertech's guard and potentially aggression. It would massively impede their ability to actually investigate the company. Currently Fertech doesn't even know Nero is after them (they just know some client "Sophie" had hidden their identity well), but if Brandon was actually arrested they would do their absolute best to sabotage any future investigations by not just Nero but the whole police. They'd likely even start meddling with the police even more in an attempt to get him out, and due to the rest of this game's ending would likely get help from Yuland for that as well, not to mention the mafia from the second game.

Making fertech hostile before they have a really good case against them is a horrendous idea.

Do you have a issues that prevents you from having common sense? I mean WTH are you saying, stop talking about laws that you obviously don't know, when you are sued and asked for money the money has to come from where your income comes from, not from a third party,That's the reason for another lawsuit, also Nero already knows that Brandon and the company They don't pay, because Nero has already encountered multiple past victims,

You know that the recording would work 100% because he implies that he knows what will happen to women and he does it and enjoys it. There is no defense nor evidence in his favor,

You forget that Duna has a great position in Fertch even more than Brandon, she is a fukin adjudicator, she is under police protection, the police chief doesn't give a shit about Yuland's lawsuit, how is the arrest of Duna not bad for Fertch, but Brandon's is, when he himself says from the first game that he is just a low-ranking employee, I can't say much about the mafia, but as far as I remember, Brandon is the one who has a relationship with her because to the owner of the club in the second game no fertch
Lmao

 

[chunkykong]

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oh my god combatwombat you are incredibly based

the best animation in the game combined with a gg reference sent this game from a 7 to an 11