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xXwankerXx

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@linkinn why u sad.....i can hug u too......
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don't worry man, am sure the guy who knocked her up will send a few more of his kids for you to look after.
Think you need to replay the game and actually pay attention to the story before making any more ridiculous assumptions like that, both hands on the desk and focusing on details skill turned to 9000 this time, if you want it to make sense. If a sweet kid like that is that much of a problem for some of you 'alpha' dudes here, what's your take on the same type of situation, if the roles were reversed and the MC was the single dad making women run away from him cuz of this lil, 7yo detail ??:unsure:

I'm sure this kinda shit would've most likely meant the women again were trash for not accepting a poor, innocent kid instead of only judging the MC by his character and actions.

sounds like you have a personal problem with Grace and just can't let it go. She isn't as bad as you make it seem, the kid just might be a deal breaker to you. But honestly pretty much all the LI in this game as about as any other other LI in this game. I wouldn't say any one is worst than another just some might have some flaws that are deal breakers for some.
Nah man, you thinking too rational about it, and I ran out of those stupid reactions for today to give you a like.:cry: According to some ppl's sound logic, if the woman even dares to let a dildo near her pussy or have a man before the MC's in the pic, his own mom included:eek:, she's damaged goods or a whore. If the man's a virgin, the woman should be twice the virgin he is. That's the 'alpha' way of thinking 'round here.:WeSmart:But then again, I wonder why most women find virgins weird, avoid them like the plague IRL and jump into token Chad/Tyrone's bed instead of theirs.:WaitWhat:

Just cause she is a single mother with a kid doesn't mean more are going to show up.
The funny thing is, she doesn't even expect the MC to be any sort of a father or older brother figure for that sweet, lil girl, it's the MC himself who makes the choice (if the player wants it, ofc) to be closer to her. I do find it a lil weird that a great lawyer like her doesn't start looking into his background to make sure he didn't lose his way, so to say, given the MC's current undercover agent gig, after she went to Sweden to work tho.

Another thing I find funny is that ALL LIs, every single one of them, have some sort of baggage they come attached to and the MC will have to help all of them deal with it if he wants that good pussy, but let's stone a single mom who has a past like anyone else, made an obvious mistake regarding her baby daddy, always had a crush on the MC and always had his back, just bcz she a single mom. Yeah, fuck her... that sounds better.:WeSmart:

I understand this is usually the general consensus among men when it comes to dating single moms like Grace, and I usually agree with it, BUT every rule has at least one exception, and she is the perfect example of this. Her physical attractiveness is subjective, I like her type of proportions tbh, other players might not, the thing that most of us should appreciate is that she's a loyal woman willing to sacrifice and do a lot for her man and his happiness. Can't say the same about a lot of modern women nowadays.:rolleyes:

Besides a perfect LI is boring I much rather take a LI with flaws , bad decisions they made in the past any day over a perfect one. It just depends how bad are the flaws for me. For me so far I don't find any of the flaws a deal breaker with any of the LI yet.
Well said. In my case, I'm only a lil hesitant about Vanessa and maybe Afina too, cuz of her past trauma. Will still help her overcome it, but Kylie's a lil more up to my standards than her. Sorry, Afina.

Going back to Vanessa, our lil wannabe G.I. Jane... will keep a save where I make my MC go down the so-called 'simp' road and try to protect her from those lunatics she got herself involved with, keep her out of handcuffs and save her sweet ass for a few extra 'benefits' down the line, but in the other save, I'll just wait for her explanation on why she got into this dangerous line of work and decide how I'l proceed from there, maybe I'll throw a few 'alpha' compliments like dumb bitch, useless whore, trashy childhood friend into the mix too, something 'sweet' like those to avoid being labeled a simp again lol cuz I'm sooo suuure compliments like that are an almost-perfect cheat to get most attractive women in bed IRL and in fiction, so yeah, Vanessa's so far a wild card to me personally and the only LI I'll use two saves, one for both of my heads, just in case she ain't worth risking to be killed for.
 

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We're trying to implement that in, should come in patch 0.38 :)
Oh that's good to hear... also, the game needs a lot more proof-reading, if you guys can do that... story is pretty interesting, but the wonky translations make it hard to get invested in it, and considering this is a story driven AVN and not a fuck-fest, you might want to fix the dialogues.
 

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Think you need to replay the game and actually pay attention to the story before making any more ridiculous assumptions like that, both hands on the desk and focusing on details skill turned to 9000 this time, if you want it to make sense. If a sweet kid like that is that much of a problem for some of you 'alpha' dudes here, what's your take on the same type of situation, if the roles were reversed and the MC was the single dad making women run away from him cuz of this lil, 7yo detail ??:unsure:

I'm sure this kinda shit would've most likely meant the women again were trash for not accepting a poor, innocent kid instead of only judging the MC by his character and actions.



Nah man, you thinking too rational about it, and I ran out of those stupid reactions for today to give you a like.:cry: According to some ppl's sound logic, if the woman even dares to let a dildo near her pussy or have a man before the MC's in the pic, his own mom included:eek:, she's damaged goods or a whore. If the man's a virgin, the woman should be twice the virgin he is. That's the 'alpha' way of thinking 'round here.:WeSmart:But then again, I wonder why most women find virgins weird, avoid them like the plague IRL and jump into token Chad/Tyrone's bed instead of theirs.:WaitWhat:



The funny thing is, she doesn't even expect the MC to be any sort of a father or older brother figure for that sweet, lil girl, it's the MC himself who makes the choice (if the player wants it, ofc) to be closer to her. I do find it a lil weird that a great lawyer like her doesn't start looking into his background to make sure he didn't lose his way, so to say, given the MC's current undercover agent gig, after she went to Sweden to work tho.

Another thing I find funny is that ALL LIs, every single one of them, have some sort of baggage they come attached to and the MC will have to help all of them deal with it if he wants that good pussy, but let's stone a single mom who has a past like anyone else, made an obvious mistake regarding her baby daddy, always had a crush on the MC and always had his back, just bcz she a single mom. Yeah, fuck her... that sounds better.:WeSmart:

I understand this is usually the general consensus among men when it comes to dating single moms like Grace, and I usually agree with it, BUT every rule has at least one exception, and she is the perfect example of this. Her physical attractiveness is subjective, I like her type of proportions tbh, other players might not, the thing that most of us should appreciate is that she's a loyal woman willing to sacrifice and do a lot for her man and his happiness. Can't say the same about a lot of modern women nowadays.:rolleyes:



Well said. In my case, I'm only a lil hesitant about Vanessa and maybe Afina too, cuz of her past trauma. Will still help her overcome it, but Kylie's a lil more up to my standards than her. Sorry, Afina.

Going back to Vanessa, our lil wannabe G.I. Jane... will keep a save where I make my MC go down the so-called 'simp' road and try to protect her from those lunatics she got herself involved with, keep her out of handcuffs and save her sweet ass for a few extra 'benefits' down the line, but in the other save, I'll just wait for her explanation on why she got into this dangerous line of work and decide how I'l proceed from there, maybe I'll throw a few 'alpha' compliments like dumb bitch, useless whore, trashy childhood friend into the mix too, something 'sweet' like those to avoid being labeled a simp again lol cuz I'm sooo suuure compliments like that are an almost-perfect cheat to get most attractive women in bed IRL and in fiction, so yeah, Vanessa's so far a wild card to me personally and the only LI I'll use two saves, one for both of my heads, just in case she ain't worth risking to be killed for.
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xXwankerXx

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you make her seem worst than she is which what my point was. I forget the context between her ex so I'm not sure if i'm willing to say she made a bad decision or just a case of things didn't work out / he turned out to be much worst after the kid and marriage.
Classic douche type of behavior. Sweet, caring guy at first making her think he was serious relationship material, complete asshole later on as their relationship progressed, especially after Victoria was born, which made the fool bounce, or go get cigarettes and forget to come back, as Grace herself said it.

Btw, how crazy would it be if her baby daddy turned out to be Alice's dad and the mob boss's son/son-in-law. How 'bout that for some Nyx-level of crazy drama.:eek: I'm not that big of a drama fan, but this would make for a pretty sweet plot twist, IMO.

she doesn't want the MC to come along to take care of her kid that is 100% false. That's just you spewing your hatred towards her for no reason.
Yep. She makes it clear she doesn't want the MC feel like he's obligated to raise her daughter, if he want to date her, he does this out of his own free will and cuz he's a good guy like that. If this was reality, I'd be a lil hesitant about it too, but since it's fiction and you like her, you just say fuck it and become both Grace's and that kid's daddy.

Come to big daddy, baby girls !!:BootyTime:

she may hope for a romantic relationship but she comes across as someone that just wants him back in her life because of the friendship no ulterior motives.
Yeah, she's at a point in her life where work's getting too exhausting for her to handle life alone. There's also the lil detail about raising her daughter, which is a big minus on her rep in the dating market, so the MC, a confident, caring, handsome guy she knew and always had a connection with is her one and only option when it comes to romance.

Another argument on why I don't understand all the hatred for single moms in porn games, sometimes even in real life, is that you can always have biological kids with a single mom too if she ticks all the boxes of a waifu, so why some men would look down on ALL single moms cuz of a few bad apples is baffling to me.:WaitWhat:

Doesn't seem unreasonable to me she would want to reconnect when she moves back to the city she knows her old friend used to live in. I'd maybe agree with you if they didn't have alot of history together but since they do I just don't see it without seeing some proof / replaying the game myself.
There ain't any. The guy's just generalizing a concept he thinks it applies in ALL cases, but the problem with this type of thinking is that, just like he considers all single moms like Grace opportunistic, selfish cunts and promiscuous women, peeps like him can be considered a bunch of misogynists with no actual experience with real women, except real and fictional porn.

Even if someone got cheated on or dumped by their partner, man or woman, it obviously don't mean that all men or women are trash just bcz said person went through one bad relationship. It's ridiculous to even think about it like that.

I'm interested to see what happened to lead you into that conclusion.
I suspect he watched too many vids (can't blame him for it, I watch a few of those too when times allows it) and decided to consider superficial bullshit sound logic, not actual facts plainly stated or shown in the story, or it's personal experience speaking there. It's gotta be one of these two, but in our case, Grace is far from what he made her out to be in his posts.

Admittedly, I'd completely and wholeheartedly agree with the guy if this was Grace prior to the remake. Damn, she was the office slut and a backstabbing cunt who stole her friend's man, the spiteful idiot who blackmailed her into doing more sexual stuff, in that version, ffs, but after the remake and Knight fired the old writer, she became top 3 endgame girls for me personally.

Guess he didn't bother to play the game or pay too much attention to her rewritten character if he keeps making baseless accusations like that about her.:unsure:
 
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Well said. In my case, I'm only a lil hesitant about Vanessa and maybe Afina too, cuz of her past trauma. Will still help her overcome it, but Kylie's a lil more up to my standards than her. Sorry, Afina.

Going back to Vanessa, our lil wannabe G.I. Jane... will keep a save where I make my MC go down the so-called 'simp' road and try to protect her from those lunatics she got herself involved with, keep her out of handcuffs and save her sweet ass for a few extra 'benefits' down the line, but in the other save, I'll just wait for her explanation on why she got into this dangerous line of work and decide how I'l proceed from there, maybe I'll throw a few 'alpha' compliments like dumb bitch, useless whore, trashy childhood friend into the mix too, something 'sweet' like those to avoid being labeled a simp again lol cuz I'm sooo suuure compliments like that are an almost-perfect cheat to get most attractive women in bed IRL and in fiction, so yeah, Vanessa's so far a wild card to me personally and the only LI I'll use two saves, one for both of my heads, just in case she ain't worth risking to be killed for.
I agree with basically everything you said.
( ive yet to play the update)

But man speaking of Vanessa I might be a bit of a simp when it comes to her ngl. Even if she does things that is worth not helping her and she deserves to be in jail , i'm still gonna want to help her might do 1 save where I don't not sure. I'm legit scared for her that she is gonna get hurt or in jail. If im being honest I really dont want to see her in jail I rather see her get hurt first as fucked up as that is lol. I like Grace more than her not sure how I feel about her as a character yet but the little bit of a backstory we got with her my first playing , I thought it was sad enough for me to be on her side and like her no matter what. So yeah if she does some really fucked up shit gonna be a real tough on for me knowing what I should do but what I rather do cause I want to avoid a consequence if at all possible for her. Don't even know why im so biased / simping for her character so much anymore either just I recall that's how I felt my first time playing this ( I didn't play before the reworks)
 
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Acsuka

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All this anti-Grace "bullshit" is getting very tiring... If you don't like the character, just ignore her and don't talk nonsense just because of what this girl was like in another version... It's that simple.. The problem is not with Grace, but with your attitude...
 

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emmm... what's with her face?

am I missing smth?
I just woke up recently so might be the case
Nothing wrong with her face. It's becoming a bit of a trend these days for anyone to just overreact to anything that doesn't fit their personal preference. That person is not the first one to do this and won't be the last either.
 

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Nothing wrong with her face. It's becoming a bit of a trend these days for anyone to just overreact to anything that doesn't fit their personal preference. That person is not the first one to do this and won't be the last either.
Well yeah, I can't really find something wrong, I was just wondering what they might feel is wrong.
 

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Nothing wrong with her face. It's becoming a bit of a trend these days for anyone to just overreact to anything that doesn't fit their personal preference. That person is not the first one to do this and won't be the last either.
lol... nah dude, her face is all deformed... wrong proportions, looks weird. Not everything is "opinion" or "subjective" or "personal preference"... sometimes it's just bad... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

yeah was just about to ask the same question.
maybe it is the nose? it is very small for her face but perhaps it is the angle?
And yes, the nose is too small and the lips are too big.
 
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Dessolos

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lol... nah dude, her face is all deformed... wrong proportions, looks weird. Not everything is "opinion" or "subjective" or "personal preference"... sometimes it's just bad... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I dont see to me it feels subjective because I think you need to have a keen eye for detail to notice it but if you do then I can see how it would be objective / bad for you. But after you mentioned the nose and lips I can almost see it but still doesn't look bad or deformed to me.
 

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Yeah whatever, I ain't gonna get into an argument about it... if you guys like weird faces, all the more power to you, but there are things like proper anatomy and stuff... if you're interested of course...

Anyhoo, yeah this is much better than when I played it first, but it still needs some improvements, particularly in the way of proof-reading... The story is fine, it feels more cohesive than before, but it's still to early to judge.

Looking at my previous rating, I see they've added a few animations and some music, which is nice (they still need to add more music, there are some long silent stretches that feel weird), it might be nice to add some SFX too. I'm assuming it'll get more animations later on when things heat up.

Oh I liked the other logo more, not that it's a big deal, but just saying.
 

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lol... nah dude, her face is all deformed... wrong proportions, looks weird. Not everything is "opinion" or "subjective" or "personal preference"... sometimes it's just bad... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Yeah so bad that only you overreacted about it while everyone else was wondering what the big deal is lol. Even when talking about proportion, different people have different facial proportions anyway. Seems weird to overreact over something like small nose and big lips. But like I said, you aren't the first and not going to be the last to be like that, no big deal.
 

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Yeah so bad that only you overreacted about it while everyone else was wondering what the big deal is lol. Even when talking about proportion, different people have different facial proportions anyway. Seems weird to overreact over something like small nose and big lips. But like I said, you aren't the first and not going to be the last to be like that, no big deal.
Wow yeah, posting an image and a stupid joke = overraction... :rolleyes:

To me it seems the only one who overreacted was you, but sure buddy, you do you.
 
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