Ren'Py Brothel King [v0.3] [Goldo]

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Kite80

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In fact I don't understand why someone decided to put abandoned tag here without even caring to ask people if the game actually is abandoned or not...

Btw, about speed stat: when you start the game you can't raise MC stats until he gets new levels and it's better to put your first point to charisma; one more action per turn doesn't change MC life that much, instead he gets a lot of benefits for a higher charisma, especially the trader who also gets the discount ability at 3rd level: 10% discount on purchases and +10% gain on selling for each point of charisma. Training becomes easier, interactions grant higher stat raises. We are talking about the first weeks of gameplay, of course, things change later on and speed becomes very important, but consider that if you get +1 action at 2nd level you still can't train a girl more than once a day, so raising the output of training by increasing charisma is a valid strategy. And with a good luck we can afford to get those cool boots at the shop while we're still in chapter 1.

Selling a slave may appear a big waste, but still we have to consider positive and negative factors and decide what's best for us: for example I prefer to get original girls only (not just for the cool golden trait), so if my slave has grown enough to get a good amount of coins by selling her and need it to buy an original girl or two, so be it. Moreover, more coins allow to get a new girl and good items to equip her, so that the first time you sell your slave you get a new girl and some equipment for her, without forgetting those precious training scrolls. Again, trader is the best choice for this strategy since the class will boost all those advantages. Naturally this step is not mandatory, there are other ways to make coins, this is just a way to stay safer and away from debts.

One last thing: perhaps it seems that I prefer the trader class, it is better than warrior in my opinion, but wizard is even better. As I mentioned above, wizard spells and skills allow a high level MC to manage his brothel without any effort: girls can work 24/7 without being tired at all, even tbose who make group sex every night; the brothel cleans up by itself, literally; some girl stats raise faster; high spirit needed to cast all those cool spells grants MC an unmatched magic fight ability. MC just sits and enjoys the coin stream flowing in his pockets. Wizard is the class I use most, but right now I'm doing a run with a trader (it's been a while since last time I played as trader), so who's curious about it can ask me how it is going on.
 
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I forgot to say something: when 0.2 is done let's move on a new discussion and leave this one, so we won't need moderators anymore to update OP.
 
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...one more action per turn doesn't change MC life that much, instead he gets a lot of benefits for a higher charisma...
Huh? From 3 to 4 (or even 4 to 5) actions is huge. I don't think Charisma ever gives a comparable benefit, not even 0 -> 1 Charisma. These 'lots of benefits' are all pretty tiny for just 1 additional charisma.

BTW, getting the master bedroom ASAP allows you to perform advanced training for just 1 AP. Personally, I consider it a cheat, but I also think the '1 training session a day' restriction is bullshit.

discount ability at 3rd level: 10% discount on purchases and +10% gain on selling for each point of charisma.
That's +2%, capped at +25% selling and -25% buying. 10% would be worth considering over Speed, but not this.

Training becomes easier, interactions grant higher stat raises.
+10% per point of Charisma, generally. If you get two slaves ASAP, +1 Speed is essentially +100%.

We are talking about the first weeks of gameplay, of course, things change later on and speed becomes very important...

...you still can't train a girl more than once a day...
You do have a point that it helps you focus train your first girl. But you can use the extra AP for a number of other purposes, like adventuring in the city, rewarding her (I think rewards/punishments got somewhat better in 0.2) or just chatting. Also, chatting indirectly boosts training due to love increases.

Or use advanced training and have some leftover AP for other purposes/other slaves.

And with a good luck we can afford to get those cool boots at the shop while we're still in chapter 1.
With luck you can also get the +2 Charisma axe. As I said, boosting other MC stats via items is easier than raising Speed.

...if my slave has grown enough to get a good amount of coins by selling her and need it to buy an original girl or two, so be it.
A valid point, but it's basically trading more income for a better girl. From a minmaxing POV, that's a poor trade. In my non-vanilla games (where the Headhunter exists and can provide tailor-made girls) I also try to get originals from her after a while, but I usually find that I need the 'old' girls to keep my business running while I train the nooblets. I only sell girls I have no real personal investment in.

Moreover, more coins allow to get a new girl and good items to equip her, so that the first time you sell your slave you get a new girl and some equipment for her
That new girl is also very likely a money sink that'll eat all your cash via lower income and having to retrain her all over again.

Again, trader is the best choice for this strategy since the class will boost all those advantages.
Yeah, a Charismatic Trader is possibly the one setup where this is sorta viable.

...wizard is even better.
Tell me about it. My modded Wizard is basically cheat mode. :D
 
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So, here's my progress with vanilla game, no cheats:

y1 m3 w10 - gold 353
Trader lvl 4 - stats 1/3/6/4 with wooden staff and fur boots
3 girls in the brothel, all originals, all whoring - class C, lvl 5
brothel: basic room 4/4, MC bed 1 slot, tavern only
average income: 150 coins
city: 2 girls good friends

I didn't sell my first girl (Hinata), plus she's been attacked and hurt by a monster 3 times while she was the only girl in my brothel; this slowed things a bit but didn't cause too much trouble.
 

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y1 m4 d2 - gold 2117 (but still in chapter 1)
4 girls in the brothel, added 1 free girl as tavern worker
1 girl in the farm
3 hearts in town: sex / touch / friend

The difficult part is balancing working hours for the girls without make them tired, luckily 2 of them have "warm welcome" perk and can recover more energy during half shifts
 

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I like the art and the concept but is it censored...
All of the art is stolen, and some of it is therefore censored. Most if not all the NPCs are actually censored, I think. And girl packs occasionally have censorship, depending on the art available for the character and the pack maker's tastes.

There's no deliberate censorship, however. Just no effort spent on avoiding it.

But frankly, the promo art here is useless. It doesn't really show anything related to actual gameplay. AFAIK, only two modders have actually created promotional screenshots that do the game some justice, OhWee and myself. Some of OhWee's (quite old) stuff can be seen here, and it's not very different from the actual game. Some of his work was included in the game around 0.14, a lot of it was not. Looking at mine requires you to register at HHS, probably not worth it if you're not invested in the game.
 
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How do you get slaves to go permanently nude? I have one slave that's 55 libido and fascinated by nudity who I could tell to remain naked at all times, and another one with 60 libido that's also fascinated by nudity who I can't tell to remain naked at all times. Is there a specific formula or calculated by base stats (the latter slave has tasty sausage +10 and some clothing) or something?
 

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How do you get slaves to go permanently nude? I have one slave that's 55 libido and fascinated by nudity who I could tell to remain naked at all times, and another one with 60 libido that's also fascinated by nudity who I can't tell to remain naked at all times. Is there a specific formula or calculated by base stats (the latter slave has tasty sausage +10 and some clothing) or something?
I've been told before that there is a third factor that can reduce the needed Libido, but I never remember what it is. The general formula I use is 75 Libido + Fascinated with Naked. Once you have this run Nudity training one more time. At the end you will be offered the chance to have her go full time nude. Once you get her past that hurdle you can toggle it on or off at will in one of the settings for that girl.
 
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Some perks and traits can reduce the requirements for being nude all times (Naturalist for example), but as Leortha said above you usually need libido >= 75 and one more nude training.

Btw I asked a mod about the abandoned tag, showed him proof that Goldo is still developing BK and he kindly removed the tag. Just for info: next time someone thinks about reporting this game as abandoned just because OP wasn't updated for 2-3 months, a quick check on latest posts too would be appreciated.
 
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I've been told before that there is a third factor that can reduce the needed Libido, but I never remember what it is.
The only thing I can find is hitting a positive fixation during advanced training, which knocks off 25 points from the 75 Libido + 75 'reluctance' requirement (and conversely, encountering a phobia gives +25).

Some perks and traits can reduce the requirements for being nude all times (Naturalist for example)...
Not true, except perhaps incidentally due to Naturists starting with higher preference scores. Mechanics-wise, the Naturist trait is almost identical to having been successfully told to 'remain naked at all times'. Don't recall any other perks or traits like that, either.
 

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Some perks and traits can reduce the requirements for being nude all times (Naturalist for example), but as Leortha said above you usually need libido >= 75 and one more nude training.
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Now I have this disturbing mental image of a nude David Attenborough. :)
 

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All of the art is stolen, and some of it is therefore censored. Most if not all the NPCs are actually censored, I think. And girl packs occasionally have censorship, depending on the art available for the character and the pack maker's tastes.

There's no deliberate censorship, however. Just no effort spent on avoiding it.

But frankly, the promo art here is useless. It doesn't really show anything related to actual gameplay. AFAIK, only two modders have actually created promotional screenshots that do the game some justice, OhWee and myself. Some of OhWee's (quite old) stuff can be seen here, and it's not very different from the actual game. Some of his work was included in the game around 0.14, a lot of it was not. Looking at mine requires you to register at HHS, probably not worth it if you're not invested in the game.
Oh, ok. Thanks!
 

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... (the latter slave has tasty sausage +10 and some clothing)
Also note that consumable foods have effect only when you Use them on a girl, not when you just Give them to a girl and it shows in her inventory.
The mod Bonanza has some allowance for auto-use of foods, but not "vanilla" game.
 

Jman9

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New question, same answer: the mod Bonanza has some items that go in there, but not "vanilla" game. :sneaky:
 

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About misc slot, I think some items like nurse cap, geisha mask etc. could be put there instead of panties slot.
 

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Sure, that's exactly what happens in my mod. There's a legion of extras, too. Like maid aprons, earrings, towels, serving trays, bridal veils, leather pants, chopsticks, etc. AFAIK, Goldo never got to reviewing those, and I couldn't exactly force him, could I? :cautious:
 

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About misc slot, I think some items like nurse cap, geisha mask etc. could be put there instead of panties slot.
Nope. No current items go in vanilla game's Misc slot. Items in Misc category are treated as Use or Give, but not Equip.

So I suppose you meant, "in some future modification, could be put there."

The Misc slot may be intended for some future use, but might be better changed to Hidden status for now.
 
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For me it would be enough if panties get their own slot, there's no reason a girl couldn't wear it alongside a set of cat ears or a nurse hat
 
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