VN Ren'Py Brother's Game [Development Thread]

[Split Mind]

Clearly a lot of people that are commenting have mixed opinions. I think that you have a good idea, as a VN format would be refreshing. I would argue that the the main reason people consistently gravitate towards BB is because of the models used for the characters. Preserve the models as much as possible and people will probably play it.

Also, as much as people on either side don't want to accept it, NTR/sharing/group and vanilla/harem make up sizable chunks of the fan base respectively. Therefore, including paths for both sides (paths involving all three of the women) is essential if you want to keep the most people on board. Although I personally like all paths, I recommend that you avoid letting the NTR/sharing/group sex/etc. paths bleed into the vanilla path (aka make them completely avoidable). Part of the reason why vanilla players hated BB so much was because you constantly had to deal with Eric even when you were trying to completely avoiding any NTR.

Overall, I think this could potentially be a great thing. It would be refreshing, especially without the egregious "wait wait wait, sleep, wait wait wait, sleep" grind. Your renders look fantastic; and the format would greatly distinguish the game from any of the copy/paste remakes out there that some people are annoyed with. I agree that beneath the surface, there is a good story to be told and it would be nice to see a BB game actually succeed since the models are so good.

Thank you for the comments

On the NTR point, it's probably the biggest concept in the game I'm tackling at the moment. From a mechanics and story perspective, I'm thinking about how to present this in a way that fits the VN format, gives the player agency, and doesn't require rendering for a million different branching paths.

 

[L0thar]

Thank you for the comments

On the NTR point, it's probably the biggest concept in the game I'm tackling at the moment. From a mechanics and story perspective, I'm thinking about how to present this in a way that fits the VN format, gives the player agency, and doesn't require rendering for a million different branching paths.

NTR, if not the most common, certainly very often causes discord among players. Sometimes discussions on this topic almost cause riots on the forum, and fortunately, the interlocutors talk only remotely.
But seriously, that's a bit of advice. I hope you can reconcile the supporters and opponents of this option by allowing them to choose the path in which it is available or not.

 

[Harem Trooper]

SummmerP Isn't making a Big Brother remake, is a Bad Bobby one.

Bruh...
https://f95zone.to/threads/bbs2-v0-1-summmerp.123071/
(And yes, this one small scene counts as NTR, hence event the mods put that tag on it despite SummerP different opinnion... And we know how the mods are with their NTR policies here)

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[Harem Trooper]

NTR, if not the most common, certainly very often causes discord among players. Sometimes discussions on this topic almost cause riots on the forum, and fortunately, the interlocutors talk only remotely.
But seriously, that's a bit of advice. I hope you can reconcile the supporters and opponents of this option by allowing them to choose the path in which it is available or not.

Yeah, the NTR trash talks are always fun and im always there If I can afford to waste time lol. But in all honesty, can you have BB without NTR in the first place ? From what I got this will be NTR infested so I have no horse in this race, but I always hear when NTR talks escalate the word "Eric" comes up.
Even the version from SummerP, who promised it will have a non-NTR path, still forces NTR scenes into it. I guess its a game branded with this fetish after all.

 

[winky88888]

love milfs
anychances 3-some with ann and oliva‘s mom

 

[Pagdor]

just keeping an eye on this

 

[Gunizz]

I've attached my BB fan-art up to this point, noting that these will not necessarily appear in the game.

If I can suggest something, don't make the MC look as the one of those renderings, because he doesn't feel right, he does not look young, he looks more like a dwarf. His face is the one of a grown adult while his body is simply short. He does not like a teen and that's the main point of BB. He also haven't got to be shorter than his sister, just to "fake" a younger look. If you are able to convey an enjoyable and original story I think you can have success, I don't mind if there is NTR or not, but while I don't like a NTR based novel (they are always boring) I could like to have a credible antagonist or ally for the girls, to have different paths depending on choices, fighting against him to conquer a girl. I don't like easy fuck-'em-all stories, there should be some effort to reach a result (not too much grinding please). And if the player makes stupid and wrong choices, make him pay for that using Eric.
I think the figure of Eric is fundamental, he must be credible and you have to carefully choose how he interacts with MC or the girls. If the player doesn't pursue a girl, don't make her become an Asexual Virgin Mary just to accommodate the crying minority of emo people, as it happens in so many games. Make your story somehow credible and realistic (obviously as "realistic" as an incest porn VN can be).

 

[maxivore]

I'm all for it. This game without the grind could really be great. I will keep an eye on this and I hope to see this idea come to fruition. Good luck

 

[Split Mind]

If I can suggest something, don't make the MC look as the one of those renderings, because he doesn't feel right, he does not look young, he looks more like a dwarf. His face is the one of a grown adult while his body is simply short. He does not like a teen and that's the main point of BB. He also haven't got to be shorter than his sister, just to "fake" a younger look. If you are able to convey an enjoyable and original story I think you can have success, I don't mind if there is NTR or not, but while I don't like a NTR based novel (they are always boring) I could like to have a credible antagonist or ally for the girls, to have different paths depending on choices, fighting against him to conquer a girl. I don't like easy fuck-'em-all stories, there should be some effort to reach a result (not too much grinding please). And if the player makes stupid and wrong choices, make him pay for that using Eric.
I think the figure of Eric is fundamental, he must be credible and you have to carefully choose how he interacts with MC or the girls. If the player doesn't pursue a girl, don't make her become an Asexual Virgin Mary just to accommodate the crying minority of emo people, as it happens in so many games. Make your story somehow credible and realistic (obviously as "realistic" as an incest porn VN can be).

Thanks for the comments

About Max: I'm leaning toward completely changing his model to something that better captures a teen look, and is easier for the player to project themselves on to. I'm aiming to share some renders of the main characters soon.
About NTR: Still brainstorming how this will be implemented. The current idea is to have this be present in the story depending on the players choices i.e largely avoidable depending on the players direction. While NTR will be present, it will not be the core focus.
About Eric: He will be in the game.

 

[Split Mind]

Working on main character designs. With the exception of Max, the characters will only go through minor tweaks.
Attached some initial designs for Alice, Ann, Lisa, and Max.

 

[Entropylol]

Working on main character designs. With the exception of Max, the characters will only go through minor tweaks.
Attached some initial designs for Alice, Ann, Lisa, and Max.

I didnt knew that this games was after Eric stole Max family and kicked him out. Is that 30 years old homeless Max?

 

[baka]

take a look at "Our Fate - A new family"
why not create something similar to that, so Max can be good or evil.

 

[Gunizz]

Thanks for the comments

About Max: I'm leaning toward completely changing his model to something that better captures a teen look, and is easier for the player to project themselves on to. I'm aiming to share some renders of the main characters soon.
About NTR: Still brainstorming how this will be implemented. The current idea is to have this be present in the story depending on the players choices i.e largely avoidable depending on the players direction. While NTR will be present, it will not be the core focus.
About Eric: He will be in the game.

That seems like a good approach that tries to accommodate most sensibilities. I don't think people should complain about avoidable NTR or a NTR that is well inserted in a credible story. For example, a girl has got a boyfriend and you have to actively pursue her with the right choices to get rid of him.

Working on main character designs. With the exception of Max, the characters will only go through minor tweaks.
Attached some initial designs for Alice, Ann, Lisa, and Max.

Max looks too old related to the age of his mother. The mom looks in her late 30's (well in real life she would be in her 20's looking like that) so I would accommodate the other characters based on that. Is that really Max or Eric?

take a look at "Our Fate - A new family"
why not create something similar to that, so Max can be good or evil.

That was a really engaging novel, one of the best I ever played. Sadly it's abandoned but it should be taken as an example by many developers because it was well coinceived.

 

[KingBel]

Working on main character designs. With the exception of Max, the characters will only go through minor tweaks.
Attached some initial designs for Alice, Ann, Lisa, and Max.

i note that you have inflated the 'assets' a bit on Ann and Alice. While I don't have an issue with this, you should remember that most (if not all) pose sets that you find in the DAZ store are geared towards more modest boobage So if you do go ahead with the bigger sizes, you will have to spend a lot more time on posing and fixing clipping issues.. just something to bear in mind

I suspect that this is one of the main reasons that most of DS's characters in both BB and Glamour have very similar body types.

 

[Split Mind]

i note that you have inflated the 'assets' a bit on Ann and Alice. While I don't have an issue with this, you should remember that most (if not all) pose sets that you find in the DAZ store are geared towards more modest boobage So if you do go ahead with the bigger sizes, you will have to spend a lot more time on posing and fixing clipping issues.. just something to bear in mind

I suspect that this is one of the main reasons that most of DS's characters in both BB and Glamour have very similar body types.

I'm aware - it's a price I'm willing to pay for a bit more sex appeal.

 

[Split Mind]

Ok, still working on Max. The above comments are correct and I'm not happy with the initial design.
Getting his look right is tricky. I'm trying to hit that sweet spot where he doesn't look like an absolute creep (gremlin as some would say), but I also don't want him looking like a stud. Aiming for an ordinary, unassuming, kind of pathetic appearance.

As a side-note I'm also playing with the idea of having his appearance evolve as the story progresses.

 

[Split Mind]

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[Anasphore]

Eric looks good !

 

[Split Mind]

Planning is well underway. I still intend to release a demo this year, although it will be incredibly short (<5min).

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[Gunizz]

Planning is well underway. I still intend to release a demo this year, although it will be incredibly short (<5min).

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This looks much better. I don't know if it's just my preference, but I would not make the younger sister taller than MC, I would aim for a more petite figure as in the original BB. Here she looks a bit different, apparently she's older than him. Or maybe she's got high heels.