Tkdmoe

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I feel like IonDivvy is trying to punish people for complaining.

"To prepare the game for its steam launch"

Couldn't you just... Upload the game everywhere?

Either way, still extremely skeptical about if that's actually going to be released or not.
 
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Welp it's official ep 20 has been released, now to wait until it's posted here and then i can binge play the entire game from start to finish
 

Rehwyn

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I feel like IonDivvy is trying to punish people for complaining.

"To prepare the game for its steam launch"

Couldn't you just... Upload the game everywhere?

Either way, still extremely skeptical about if that's actually going to be released or not.
Steam actually has pretty strict requirements about what pricing a dev can use on other sites if they also want to sell it on Steam. Essentially, you can't "sell" it at a lower/free price on other platforms, from what I understand, and that includes Patreon. Doing otherwise can get the Steam store page rejected or shut down.
 

Tkdmoe

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Steam actually has pretty strict requirements about what pricing a dev can use on other sites if they also want to sell it on Steam. Essentially, you can't "sell" it at a lower/free price on other platforms, from what I understand, and that includes Patreon. Doing otherwise can get the Steam store page rejected or shut down.
I feel like you've never read the information you claim to know. That's not true at all.
 

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Steam actually has pretty strict requirements about what pricing a dev can use on other sites if they also want to sell it on Steam. Essentially, you can't "sell" it at a lower/free price on other platforms, from what I understand, and that includes Patreon. Doing otherwise can get the Steam store page rejected or shut down.
Just simply no? Where did you get this information from?
 

ename144

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I feel like you've never read the information you claim to know. That's not true at all.
No, that's definitely true. Other devs have mentioned it when releasing their games on Steam, too. Steam has all the leverage and is happy to use it.

Of course CD isn't being released on Steam just yet, so it's not entirely clear why this would matter now. I suppose it could be that ionDivvy plans to release the game on Steam before the next chapter (whenever that will be), and having the same version of a game out for free before the Steam release is enough for Steam to get territorial. Hard to say. :confused:
 

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No, that's definitely true. Other devs have mentioned it when releasing their games on Steam, too. Steam has all the leverage and is happy to use it.

Of course CD isn't being released on Steam just yet, so it's not entirely clear why this would matter now. I suppose it could be that ionDivvy plans to release the game on Steam before the next chapter (whenever that will be), and having the same version of a game out for free before the Steam release is enough for Steam to get territorial. Hard to say. :confused:
Hi ename144!

While it is correct that Steam can be pretty arbitrarly and/or strict how they accept games and all, Steam gives a flying fuck about the pre-Steam situation. For Steam it matters once they have their fingers on a launched game on their site. Iondivvy could easily give out a free version now with zero problems what Steam will think, but I am sure he won´t. Unprintable proven self-censored he is, he wants to punish the CD fans for being critical of him and not swooning at his shenigans and coughing up money well over a year for nothing.
At least I do not have to change my opinion on his personality, he once again proved him being up there with Gumdrop, Aorrta, L&P and some other developers with character cancer.
 

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Hi ename144!

While it is correct that Steam can be pretty arbitrarly and/or strict how they accept games and all, Steam gives a flying fuck about the pre-Steam situation. For Steam it matters once they have their fingers on a launched game on their site. Iondivvy could easily give out a free version now with zero problems what Steam will think, but I am sure he won´t. Unprintable proven self-censored he is, he wants to punish the CD fans for being critical of him and not swooning at his shenigans and coughing up money well over a year for nothing.
At least I do not have to change my opinion on his personality, he once again proved him being up there with Gumdrop, Aorrta, L&P and some other developers with character cancer.
At the same time, ionDivvy has said multiple times that part of the reason for the long delay on CD v0.20 is because of difficulties they've faced with getting the game prepared and approved for Steam in terms of taking up what otherwise could be development time and motivation. You might be right about the pre-release pricing (I only know what I've heard from other devs), but if they've already had a struggle to get the game approved in the first place, I could see how they might be motivated to comply with Steam's pricing requirements earlier than strictly necessary in order not to even give the slightest chance of jeopardizing that.
No, that's definitely true. Other devs have mentioned it when releasing their games on Steam, too. Steam has all the leverage and is happy to use it.

Of course CD isn't being released on Steam just yet, so it's not entirely clear why this would matter now. I suppose it could be that ionDivvy plans to release the game on Steam before the next chapter (whenever that will be), and having the same version of a game out for free before the Steam release is enough for Steam to get territorial. Hard to say. :confused:
In Discord, they mentioned they plan for the Steam release of CD to coincide with Chapter 21, which they hope to have ready some time around August, but they can't say for certain yet. So they might just be keeping the door open for a Ch 20 release if Steam says it's good to go or being extra cautious in general since it's taken a lot of frustrating back-and-forth to get the game Steam approved already.

They did also mention that one other reason for the current pricing is because there's a general expectation that when a game releases on Steam, that it has a lot of new content compared to free versions.
 
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Turret

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At the same time, ionDivvy has said multiple times that part of the reason for the long delay on CD v0.20 is because of difficulties they've faced with getting the game prepared and approved for Steam in terms of taking up what otherwise could be development time and motivation. You might be right about the pre-release pricing (I only know what I've heard from other devs), but if they've already had a struggle to get the game approved in the first place, I could see how they might be motivated to comply with Steam's pricing requirements earlier than strictly necessary in order not to even give the slightest chance of jeopardizing that.
Hi!
Iondivvy ad nauseam trying to frame Steam as the culprit does not make it true! In the last nearly one and a half years Iondivvy tried to put the blame for the lies and non-work onto anyone in sight, except the little green men from Mars! But that would have been only a question of time.
Steam is it´s own bag of problems and yes, sometimes their rather convoluted way of approving a game is a big problem, but not here.
Steam does not care the slightest about the situation before your game pops up on the Steam site, esp. since CD will be on version 21 when it comes out on Steam. Version 20 could without problems or trouble been given out for free now! Even if CD came out with version 20, at the moment this does not interest Steam much. The pricing requirements are for the moment you are buyable on Steam.
Instead of being far-thinking and giving out version 20 to the remaining fanbase for free as a "I am sorry it took so overly long" gift, he looks for the money and punishing the fans for not licking his boots.
 
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Why does it matter if there is a public version or not? This is a pirate forum. Someone will leak it eventually.
Well, since F95 is not your standard pirate forum, over the years of being here it is obvious it is more "Pirates & Patrons" :) (without any input from Gygax;)).
Without F95 95+% of the adult game developers would never get the needed exposition and reach to get anywhere.
 

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