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I somehow get the feeling that this turns more and more into a YanDev situation by the day...
Just read up about the Yandev and I've concluded that these developers are in no way similar(Except for Review Maniuplation). I mean, comparing a dev who manipulates reviews to an alleged pedophile? Seriously? That's just disrespectful...

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Pr0man

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Just read up about the Yandev and I've concluded that these developers are in no way similar(Except for Review Maniuplation). I mean, comparing a dev who manipulates reviews to an alleged pedophile? Seriously? That's just disrespectful...
I'm well aware of all the drama and controversies that surround YanDev due to morbid curiosity surrounding the topic, which is specifically why I made that statement in the first place. There are actually a handful of similarities, both in the development-side and how this all went down with the drama afterwards:

-Both devs started out with little experience in programming, yet their respective projects gained a following very fast, if for different reasons.
-Both devs got sidetracked with absolutely unnecessary sidestuff thrown into their games that remind you of padding/filler, yet didn't enhance the core gameplay, thus bogging down the experience that gained them their traction in the first place.
-Both devs seem easy to confuse genuine criticism with hate leveled against their person.
-The second some serious accusations enter the room, both love to write absolutely massive manifestos that do nothing to simply deny the accusations, yet somehow manage to dig the hole they are in deeper with every other word.

While not nearly in as much controversy as YanDev, the broader strokes do ring a familiar tune, which is why I've said that. Though there's not really any room to disagree that YanDev is worlds worse than most, if not all devs that I've heard of.
 
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KhaiFirst

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wow high rate on this game, downloading now!! hmm

update: oh is a koikatsu re skin... so, rate is scam?
 
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TheeSonus

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wow high rate on this game, downloading now!! hmm

update: oh is a koikatsu re skin... so, rate is scam?
I really don't know what you mean by this.
If my assumption of what you're saying is correct: This game is a visual novel running on Ren'py, and the scenes in it were made in Koikatsu. This game is not Koikatsu.
 

KhaiFirst

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I really don't know what you mean by this.
If my assumption of what you're saying is correct: This game is a visual novel running on Ren'py, and the scenes in it were made in Koikatsu. This game is not Koikatsu.
hi, ya sorry just play too much koikatsu, was seaching for sandbox game.. my bad.
 

wholef'nshow

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Ok, it took me two days to recover but I can finally write something about the latest update.
I've been bad, really. what happened hurt me powerfully and I think that was what the story needed in the end.
Right after the final scene, I think I was at least half an hour watching motionless the screen motionless, unable to do anything but repeat "it's not possible..." while that sad music played by the piano thundered in my temples.

Then I turned off the pc. I had no desire, strength, joy in doing anything else. I closed everything and went to sleep, taken by a deep despair, sadness and anger.

Many things can be said about this game and its creator, criticisms of all kinds can be made, on every topic because everyone has their own tastes and it is right that it is so. But I believe that absolutely nothing can be said about the desire to tell a story that can, as in this case, touch particularly high dramatic peaks. And for this we must give him full credit.

I have often found myself thinking that this story was indeed missing something. Our protagonist was suddenly moved by noble ideals, joining the battle that would decree the fate of the world. However, this initial thrust of his, at a certain point it is true, faded until it almost disappeared. I've wanted to say this for some time: why isn't him training for the conflict? Why don't we ever see him worry about it? Why is it never even talked about? It's been a long time since the game seemed to stagnate a bit about adding "hot" content for the girls.

In short, it seemed that our hero lacked the right motivation.
Now this motivation has arrived. In the most dramatic of ways.

Congratulations Zimon!
I look forward to the next update.
 

Ssato243

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Feb 2, 2021
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Ok, it took me two days to recover but I can finally write something about the latest update.
I've been bad, really. what happened hurt me powerfully and I think that was what the story needed in the end.
Right after the final scene, I think I was at least half an hour watching motionless the screen motionless, unable to do anything but repeat "it's not possible..." while that sad music played by the piano thundered in my temples.

Then I turned off the pc. I had no desire, strength, joy in doing anything else. I closed everything and went to sleep, taken by a deep despair, sadness and anger.

Many things can be said about this game and its creator, criticisms of all kinds can be made, on every topic because everyone has their own tastes and it is right that it is so. But I believe that absolutely nothing can be said about the desire to tell a story that can, as in this case, touch particularly high dramatic peaks. And for this we must give him full credit.

I have often found myself thinking that this story was indeed missing something. Our protagonist was suddenly moved by noble ideals, joining the battle that would decree the fate of the world. However, this initial thrust of his, at a certain point it is true, faded until it almost disappeared. I've wanted to say this for some time: why isn't him training for the conflict? Why don't we ever see him worry about it? Why is it never even talked about? It's been a long time since the game seemed to stagnate a bit about adding "hot" content for the girls.

In short, it seemed that our hero lacked the right motivation.
Now this motivation has arrived. In the most dramatic of ways.

Congratulations Zimon!
I look forward to the next update.
thanks for the update also your well being is a better for us than any update
 

Zorrrro

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I am stuck on looks like "izanami is still in the dojo go see if she found the solution of the problem" but there is no teleporter to her dojo and she is only in her house and she doesn't trigger anything how am I supposed to complete the meeting room quest
 

ZeroWitch

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May 20, 2019
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Is it just me having trouble with this last update? Anything that is animated like when clicking stats or signals is constantly freezing if I move the mouse. Clicking exile to move around it feels as if I'm playing an online game with a 1 second delay for it to register the mouse is hovering over something clickable.

The cats out of the bag signal. wtf is going on!?!? 5. is random letters with huge spaces between them I cannot even read what to do. the text is between /|) and (|\

I just reinstalled the game and if its breaking old saves then im done playing. The fifth time I started over by now from losing saves.

Apologies if this stuff was pointed out somewhere already or something. Frustrating to have my favorite game become unplayable
 

Bob Jared

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Is it just me having trouble with this last update? Anything that is animated like when clicking stats or signals is constantly freezing if I move the mouse. Clicking exile to move around it feels as if I'm playing an online game with a 1 second delay for it to register the mouse is hovering over something clickable.

The cats out of the bag signal. wtf is going on!?!? 5. is random letters with huge spaces between them I cannot even read what to do. the text is between /|) and (|\

I just reinstalled the game and if its breaking old saves then im done playing. The fifth time I started over by now from losing saves.

Apologies if this stuff was pointed out somewhere already or something. Frustrating to have my favorite game become unplayable
I also had the mouse lag problem.

The thing about "the cats out of the bag" is intentional.
 

Fazed

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Nov 21, 2018
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Ah, I see some heavy story happened...Maybe I should wait for the resolution update before picking this up again. I dont wanna be depressed!

Shame since this one has been on my backlog for a while.
 

Alandir

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So I played the latest release after a while. I can't find how to unlock two of the new girls though. The second and third latest entries in the in-game list. According to the game I finished all the events for the other girls. Looking at the pics in the OP one of them should the dark skinned Wolf(?) girl.

Can anyone tell me where to find them? Or was there a savegame incompatibility and I need to start anew?
You mean the hellhound? Go to dusk city, go to the guild. You will find a noble jerk being a jerk saying the hellhound burned his house down. Back to your house and visit the living room. The girls will have a girls night out, you will chill outside and encounter the hellhound. After that it's pretty straightforward.
 

Shadowen

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The ending for 0.60 was sad, but also sadly not unexpected/unsurprising for me (and no, I didn't spoil myself by reading ths thread recently lol). Things had been going just too well for too long without a major crisis, issue, problem... and no work on developing the character, fighting skills, team-work, etc. While I know some hope for a return, I don't think that the lil one will be back - I personally see a redemption/revenge/? by saving the elder one and reversing/healing what was done to her. Just my thoughts... I could be wrong, but we'll see.

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I will agree with the other poster - we've been just coasting along with no real motivator to push us into training, into trying to figure more out about ourselves, trying to work with the girls, etc. Well, we now have had 2 major wake up calls - both at the same time, that should motivate the MC & story into more training, more trying to help the weak girls gain something, as well as look more into just what we are and what goes on with our 'other' self... something that Maeve was aware of, but left it in the dark... but also something we should have questioned after what happened with the HellHound. We know we beat her, but we don't remember it. Why did we never ask her anything? Or talk to Maeve?

Otherwise I do have a question - has there been any indication on whether or not anything is going to be done regarding the skills/abilities we have? I ask cuz they all indicate there are 'levels' to them, which means there should be ways to train/power-up them... but so far we've seen no sign of any way of doing this.

Or is the whole Stats & skill 'level's just redundant features that were added at some point and then abandoned? or no idea as Dev hasn't said anything about it/them for awhile/since?
 
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