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ZimonColdres

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I started a new game and now I feel stuck.

I feel like something's fubar in the hint/trigger system. I've got signals to go back to Heramael, yet no matter what time I go to her portal she's either asleep or I get text "do you need anything" with the only option to be to return home. I'm supposed to Visit Estia while she trains at the pool, yet no matter what time I visit the school, return is the only option.

Other signals have come and gone without my actually completed them. I currently have no way to get to Izanami, no portal, no sword in the forest and a signal to talk to her about her decision after stopping from committing sepuku has gone poof.
It seems very strange, it all disappeared for no reason, mmmmm... if you attach a save I can check what happened, most likely a trigger is missing to continue the events.

Boy....i'm not gonna lie, the dev is a machine to push updates, damn...every week we have somenting new....great job HellGames. Also these last updates are amazing, i really like the "awakening" of the mc, i just wish to see more of his past (and some love with Maeve, she remind me of Midna from zelda)
I do what I can, I'd like to do more, let's give it time.
We'll have some interesting new revelations about the past of the mc and Maeve will get a lot of affection as well.

Inventory : Tear of Abyss, Katana, Ancient book of abyss and Carrot key... Signals are empty :(
I tried follow hint in girls cards but Asmedia event just repete and Herameal there is only leave

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Found it, you're missing a very interesting event, go to Heramael in the evening
 
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It seems very strange, it all disappeared for no reason, mmmmm... if you attach a save I can check what happened, most likely a trigger is missing to continue the events.



I do what I can, I'd like to do more, let's give it time.
We'll have some interesting new revelations about the past of the mc and Maeve will get a lot of affection as well.



Found it, you're missing a very interesting event, go to Heramael in the evening
Thank you so much <3
 
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I started a new game and now I feel stuck.
Well, the solution was go keep trying every single option at every day part until I could get something to move.

I hope that reworking of the signals/hint system gets somewhere.
 

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so I decided to give this one a try, seen some hype for it, the game and coding and art is well done, but the story of this is about as complex as calling for a sausage pizza... The Main character is thrown into this runs scared and the 2nd meeting goes "ok this is cool, how can I help you solve your demon problems" He just rolls with it and does everything asked of him with no... I don't know interpersonal growth.
Bah it's a porn game and I'm overthinking it, the story just feels so wooden and i still have no clue why the main character likes rando's he bumps into that tries to kill him most of the time on first meeting with little character development and just instantly accepting friendship.
 

ZimonColdres

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so I decided to give this one a try, seen some hype for it, the game and coding and art is well done, but the story of this is about as complex as calling for a sausage pizza... The Main character is thrown into this runs scared and the 2nd meeting goes "ok this is cool, how can I help you solve your demon problems" He just rolls with it and does everything asked of him with no... I don't know interpersonal growth.
Bah it's a porn game and I'm overthinking it, the story just feels so wooden and i still have no clue why the main character likes rando's he bumps into that tries to kill him most of the time on first meeting with little character development and just instantly accepting friendship.
If it were up to me, we wouldn't have had any lewd scenes until today and I would only have done development events between characters, unfortunately, I can't do it since it's an adult game.
I don't really understand the meaning of the wooden story.
If I want I can add events between events, in order to deepen better certain characters, even if not all try to attack or do something to the mc, such as Asmedia, Hera, Estia, Sheila.
And the fact that the mc is so friendly is because he must represent the antithesis of a world where you can't trust anyone.
 
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weaselman

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will we have a noble form of the MC? that's the only real downside I've had in this game, he's admittedly not the focus but every time he apears I can't help but cringe
maybe something more like the MC of helltaker would be good so I can't laugh at senior chickenchest taking on demons at least
 

ZimonColdres

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will we have a noble form of the MC? that's the only real downside I've had in this game, he's admittedly not the focus but every time he apears I can't help but cringe
maybe something more like the MC of helltaker would be good so I can't laugh at senior chickenchest taking on demons at least
You don't like the look of the mc or how he's behaving?
 
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If it were up to me, we wouldn't have had any lewd scenes until today and I would only have done development events between characters, unfortunately, I can't do it since it's an adult game.
I don't really understand the meaning of the wooden story.
If I want I can add events between events, in order to deepen better certain characters, even if not all try to attack or do something to the mc, such as Asmedia, Hera, Estia, Sheila.
And the fact that the mc is so friendly is because he must represent the antithesis of a world where you can't trust anyone.
it's really only the very beginning of the game to me each characters backstory is fine, the story arc is fine, but those beginning MC meeting Asmedia and Herameal was wooden, as in stiff, it just rolled over everything it seemed leading to the MC going "this is my life now" it just lacked depth, more talking between characters, not even more scenes just more dialogue to build up rapport between them and more resistance on herameal, tension is made during this for it to be dropped instantly.

I am glad to have played it out because it gets much better after that...though for some reason herameal makes me keep reading it as hormel, like the chili brand
 

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You don't like the look of the mc or how he's behaving?
I just want to put in my thoughts on this for a sec. I personally like the looks of the mc, but what I think the previous poster might mean (and I might be wrong here) is maybe like a super powered look maybe? Perhaps kinda like stages like how his eyes now change when he uses his powers, perhaps his appearance changes a bit more with the more of his powers he uses in a situation. At least that is what I think they mean.

I for one think it wouldn't be too bad of an idea to have like for instance when he is just having regular interactions with people he looks like how he has now, when he uses stuff like portals his eyes change, but say if he were in an epic fight he changes a bit more, maybe something not too drastic like perhaps some cool looking armour and his hair changing colour a bit. Something anime-esk if you get what I am saying. The draw back on this though would be the realistic approach on how to develop this/code it into the game. Honestly if the time taken to make this would hinder the time spent on actual character development for the MC and his girls and furthering the plot, then it might be better off without it. Plus Hellgames from your previous posts it seems like you already are putting yourself on quite a strenuous work schedule. Random stuff like various requests from different posters and trying to please all of them might end up being detrimental to you in the long run.

I get it you care about your game and player feedback and are trying to make it the best you can, but adjusting it to random requests versus actual content critique could end up damaging it. In the end like I said before I am already satisfied with how the MC looks, what I want to see now more is how his character progresses and more of that whole balance between light and dark personality thing he has going on.
 

weaselman

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You don't like the look of the mc or how he's behaving?
I'm a bit drunk, so it's natural that I'm not that understood :D

nah, his behavior is fine, mayhaps a little too passive in the last sheila and estia events but that's going to get fixed in the future
I'm talking about his appearance, I'm not a prime specimen but I'm at least twice as broad as him in the shoulder department
I'm not saying that you have to change the MC purely because I think he looks like a twink but rather since you have the girls change form you can do the same for the MC?
 

ZimonColdres

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it's really only the very beginning of the game to me each characters backstory is fine, the story arc is fine, but those beginning MC meeting Asmedia and Herameal was wooden, as in stiff, it just rolled over everything it seemed leading to the MC going "this is my life now" it just lacked depth, more talking between characters, not even more scenes just more dialogue to build up rapport between them and more resistance on herameal, tension is made during this for it to be dropped instantly.

I am glad to have played it out because it gets much better after that...though for some reason herameal makes me keep reading it as hormel, like the chili brand
Okay, now I get it, I understand the problem, the initial part seems a little taken up quickly.
This was mainly caused by the rework after the build 0.5.
I could add an extra piece to make that part cleaner, and I can do that without a problem.

I dont see any problem with mc.This game is perfect as it is.
I'm glad to hear that, but unfortunately I can't have the same mentality.
If I did, I wouldn't be able to improve the game, so it would always stay the same and behind.
There are lots of other games that do better than me, whether they came out before or after, which means there's still something I'm missing.
And then, let's not forget the people who continue to have the same mindset after five months and 22 builds, fresh comment from 5 minutes ago:
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I just want to put in my thoughts on this for a sec. I personally like the looks of the mc, but what I think the previous poster might mean (and I might be wrong here) is maybe like a super powered look maybe? Perhaps kinda like stages like how his eyes now change when he uses his powers, perhaps his appearance changes a bit more with the more of his powers he uses in a situation. At least that is what I think they mean.

I for one think it wouldn't be too bad of an idea to have like for instance when he is just having regular interactions with people he looks like how he has now, when he uses stuff like portals his eyes change, but say if he were in an epic fight he changes a bit more, maybe something not too drastic like perhaps some cool looking armour and his hair changing colour a bit. Something anime-esk if you get what I am saying. The draw back on this though would be the realistic approach on how to develop this/code it into the game. Honestly if the time taken to make this would hinder the time spent on actual character development for the MC and his girls and furthering the plot, then it might be better off without it. Plus Hellgames from your previous posts it seems like you already are putting yourself on quite a strenuous work schedule. Random stuff like various requests from different posters and trying to please all of them might end up being detrimental to you in the long run.

I get it you care about your game and player feedback and are trying to make it the best you can, but adjusting it to random requests versus actual content critique could end up damaging it. In the end like I said before I am already satisfied with how the MC looks, what I want to see now more is how his character progresses and more of that whole balance between light and dark personality thing he has going on.
Let's say that the more you go on with the plot, the more the mc will change and the more it will have effects on his body, we started with the eyes, but it will continue to undergo changes or unblocking of something during the story, of course with its normal appearance on normal days and the other when using Etheria.
Anyway, don't worry, constructive comments that can improve the game are always well appreciated.

I'm a bit drunk, so it's natural that I'm not that understood :D

nah, his behavior is fine, mayhaps a little too passive in the last sheila and estia events but that's going to get fixed in the future
I'm talking about his appearance, I'm not a prime specimen but I'm at least twice as broad as him in the shoulder department
I'm not saying that you have to change the MC purely because I think he looks like a twink but rather since you have the girls change form you can do the same for the MC?
Oh, okay, now I get it.
For the latest events, the MC practically doesn't want to force people to follow him in a dangerous game, he didn't want to from the beginning and yet he's trying to do something.
The more we go on, the more he'll change, having, like, two shapes, the normal human one and the one where he uses Etheria.

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Since I disabled the signals, I left you the directions, so you won't get lost.

To me this was a stupid move.. Now I have to just visit everywhere 3 times a day to find any new events. If the change log did not say exactly where to go.. what is the point I prefer hints with the signals.. so either read the change log and just go do it directly try all ports 3 times a day, visiting city 3 times a day all locations, and the 2 other rooms in the house.
 
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ZimonColdres

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Since I disabled the signals, I left you the directions, so you won't get lost.

To me this was a stupid move.. Now I have to just visit everywhere 3 times a day to find any new events. If the change log did not say exactly where to go.. what is the point I prefer hints with the signals.. so either read the change log and just go do it directly try all ports 3 times a day, visiting city 3 times a day all locations, and the 2 other rooms in the house.
The disabled signals are only those of the last 3 events, the old ones are still there, and in the changelog I wrote where to go
 

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is there a hint that says i've seen everything in the game so far? I havent seen any new events popping up since the event with the lock doors on the house of exile with maeve. i dont wanna endlessly click random places 3 times aday.
 

ZimonColdres

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is there a hint that says i've seen everything in the game so far? I havent seen any new events popping up since the event with the lock doors on the house of exile with maeve. i dont wanna endlessly click random places 3 times aday.
The latest events are:
The doors with Maeve and Asmedia for the story.
Cleos' event after the assault
Izanami training event
Tsukiko's event after the assault
Sheila's Event in the City

I've disabled the hints, they'll be back in the 0.23 reworked.
 
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