Change my mind: NTR

[polywog]

Back in the old days people didn't see each other naked before they were married.
It was like "surprise" on your wedding night, and at that point it was too late to back out.
And to make matters worse, people didn't have the opportunity to see lots of naked people like they do today.
So on your wedding night, your spouse was one of the first nude people you'd ever seen, and you didn't have a lot to compare them to.

nowadays, you can go on the internet and check out millions of nudes and find your favorites.
I don't mean find your favorite person, this goes way beyond simple objectification.
You can take it much further... I like these eyes, I like these breasts, I like this kind of ass...
Build your perfect mate, a la carte.

The problem is, that level of perfection doesn't exist is the real world. You go out and meet someone with a face to your liking, and cross your fingers, that the rest of her is just as nice, but then you get her back to the hotel and ewww. As the clothes start coming off there's more and more wrong with her. It's getting to the point where a guy just can't find a girl anymore. They all turn out to be 2/10 would not bang.

Don't think that this is a male thing... women are far more critical than men are.
This further complicates things, because the minute you lower your expectations, and say this one will do... suddenly, you don't live up to her expectations.

The obvious logical answer to this problem is to not limit yourself to a single choice. One girl that's good upstairs, and one that's good downstairs. You get the best of both worlds.

The same goes for women. Two men are better than one, right?

Two women, two men, one house. It's win-win. She has her BFF, you have your BFF.
If she has a headache, you have her BFF, and so on. The four of you work different shifts.

 

[smut]

I have zero interest in manipulation, humiliation, or power dynamics, so I have naturally have very little interest in OP's definition of NTR.

However, I'm very open to kinky content in general, so I have no problem playing a game where all genders get their action on, but when the content is focused on the above, count me out.

 

[Steve Carter]

• A game tagged with 'NTR' on f95 is the game version of the cuckold fetish, where the player character is is cucked. It must be the player character.

I disagree. On F95, a game tagged with NTR may mean that within the game a female character that the MC can have sex with may be fucked by a character other than the MC. Exceptions are made for girl on girl fucking though. For example, if within the game you can have sex with your hot neighbor, but that hot neighbor happens to be married and in the game there is a scene where her and her husband have sex, then (for some reason) this may get slapped with the NTR tag. In game terms, any character the MC can have sex with is considered their "property" and if anyone else of the same sex as the MC may fuck those player fuckable character in the game then this would warrant the NTR tag on F95.

The term is used more as a warning about the situation I just mentioned to people who don't like those situations as it is used to flag it for people who enjoy the situations you mentioned. If someone may be offended by the content in the game and the content involves characters besides the MC having sex, then it gets the NTR rating. As an NTR fan I find on this site that I am sifting through many games that are flagged NTR but are absolutely not NTR. The tag is not used for my benefit, it is used for the benefit who want to avoid the content. I'd say creating more particular terms to precisely identify the content in the game could solve the problem and arguments on the forums but I'm not that naive.

 

[khumak]

I think there are certain subcomponents of certain tags that people enjoy while disliking other subcomponents. In the case of NTR there are some subcomponents that I find appealing and others that I don't. So I play NTR tagged games despite my strong dislike for cuckhold content.

NTR components I like:
- the existence of an adversary who is a legitimate threat to the MC (even if you intentionally avoid all NTR scenes, the threat is still there)
- themes of jealousy and voyeurism
- potential for swinger content
- potential for wife swap type content
- potential for corruption of certain characters
- potential for cuckqueen content (which seems virtually nonexistent)
- male MC's SO cheating on him if he did something to deserve it (like getting caught cheating himself or something)

NTR components I don't like:
- anything involving humiliation, regardless who it's happening to
- male MC's SO cheating on him without good reason
- any unavoidable scenes where MC's SO cheats on him
- any unavoidable progression of MC's personality towards becoming submissive

 

[Saki_Sliz]

There are different classifications of NTR, and this is the only guideline I follow or like

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mostly the unique descriptions for the type a b and c child takes found in the above link.

 

[RGShark]

Man danteworks. I love the way you imply that people who likes NTR games, loves being cuckold (ntr'ed) in real life. But disregard others' tag with your own logic. Games are games, liking a tag on a game doesn't mean that the person loves it to happen in their real life. Especially on porn games, cause if it isn't, then vanilla porn is the only saint there is, where the mc kept on fucking the same person throughout the game (with his/her bf/gf / wife/husband ofcourse). Its funny because you are a game developer of an incest game. Can i assume that you want to fuck your family as well?

It completely bothers me how you support rape because it displays "Power", as you say.

I played many types of game but never have I ever thought of doing it in real life. Hell, when I get bored in GTA, I'd be killing and steal cars for fun and I actually enjoy getting chased by the police (especially with 5 stars). But you never saw me in the news killing and stealing peoples' car like mofokin' CJ right? Bruh, I haven't even tried hesoyam'in in real life.

My point is that the game you like or what you do in the game shouldn't instantly reflect to the person's life, if the person's taste of fun is incest, then let them be. If the other's NTR, why wouldn't you let them be? It's what they enjoy to play.

I shouldn't be bothering to reply as I already witnissed how you brush off others reasonable reasons, it's already clear that they can't justify themselves to you cause you already conclude that People Who Likes NTR = EVIL.

If you use the logic (people do in games, do in their real lives). Make sure you apply this logic to other game kinks (fetish or what ever you call it) as well. Why are you alluding this only to NTR? Because what you're doing, (if ever game kinks were a race) then man, you are being racist.

 

[GlossandGlamour]

I was not aware there was this much differentiation on the topic. Huh.

 

[Horse Amor]

Its funny because you are a game developer of an incest game. Can i assume that you want to fuck your family as well?

Patreon sure did. Which is why I imagine he's not too convinced by people who want to cry foul about being called cucks by randos on the internet.

 

[ZiMMa]

The problem here is how the player engages with the protagonist and how this affects their conscious or unconscious insecurities. NTR, like any activity related to fetishes, is not for those who have outstanding debts with themselves in the process of self-discovery. NTR content is a very strong emotional trigger for those people, hence the way they react. It is the same way of reacting that people have when they see the news of someone young who commits a horrible crime (saving the great difference, just as an example) and they cannot digest it, since it exposes the fact that the human being has the potential to bring to light a very dark side that It is better to recognize to dominate and sublimate it, but no, what they do is look the other way, far from their own nature and they blame it on some popular video game.

 

[namiv]

i believe that the term "cuckold" should be divided into "willing cuckold" and "unwilling cuckold"
then you can label NTR into "unwilling cuckold".
and to your question about yourself (playing and NTR game making you a cuck), i believe not.
does shooting games make you a shooter?
and you mentioned people telling you that "story" is something important to them, I agree with them (Maybe im one of them),
if in my story there is a black man, using that man in sexual scenes doesn't make me a bbc lover, I am just going through
my story with what i have. i cant put a bwc on a black man lol.
but i agree with you that NTR fans probably should be fans of cheating. But cuckold fans no, they might even be against it.

 

[tanlianmax]

当你攻略一个女人失败后，她必然会和另一个男人上床，这是否能被称为NTR？我觉得这是一个有趣的环节。某些作者只是隐藏的这部分，并不代表它不存。

When you fail to attack a woman, she will have sex with another man, can this be called NTR? I think this is an interesting part. Some authors just hide this part, which doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

 

[Rufio]

I will try to build a cogent argument.

• A game tagged with 'NTR' on f95 is the game version of the cuckold fetish, where the player character is is cucked. It must be the player character.
• You are not strictly an NTR fan just because a game you play includes NTR. Similarly, you aren't a fan of BBC just because there is a black dick in the game by happenstance.
• However, if you make the declaration that you enjoy BBC games, are selective for BBC games, or are a fan of BBC games, you must like black penis in your games, and it is a draw for you. Otherwise, you would not say that you enjoyed BCC. Similarly, if you declare that you enjoy NTR games, NTR is the draw to the game.
• The only thing that NTR differs from non-NTR games is that it has a cuck fetish
• Therefore, by seeking out to play NTR games over non NTR games, or even having an affinity to NTR games, the player must be into the cuck fetish.

And well, that means you take sexual pleasure from having your love interest railed by another man.

Are you talking about getting pleasure from having love interests railed by another man in games or in general?

I like gangbang porn, i do not want to be in a gangbang, i do not want to get gangbanged, i do not want a real lifelove interest to be gangbanged.

Just want to make sure you are talking about games/porn and not getting confused with real life

If you are talking just about games, would agree with you, if you like a game focussed on a particular genre, itwould generally be because you like that genre.