Character death?

[crestor]

What your thoughts on char death in ero/porn game? And I don't mean like minor one, someone that player is maybe attached to.

What if this is MC's pet?

What if MC is have to kill, and not by accident?

 

[Jon_Sleeper]

What your thoughts on char death in ero/porn game? And I don't mean like minor one, someone that player is maybe attached to.

You mean every single key game?

It don't mind it if done properly.

 

[crestor]

I mean, ..hmm
I have a story that start's bright and at the start you'll just see it as "just ordinary story", but after a little while it will all go down the drain. Mc who is good-natured person, must change, but to survive in that situation it must be very tragic to him, or else it will be fake, or he will not be "strong enough". So what you think about creating bond between him/her and player(And I mean a LOT of screen time) just to kill it/him/her later? What if that's a pet? I know how it done in standart fiction, but erotic games is a little special, or not?

 

[Jon_Sleeper]

It's been done in a lot of japanese erotic games. Like I said I don't care what happens as long as you don't do it just for shock value.

 

[Akamari]

I mean, ..hmm
I have a story that start's bright and at the start you'll just see it as "just ordinary story", but after a little while it will all go down the drain. Mc who is good-natured person, must change, but to survive in that situation it must be very tragic to him, or else it will be fake, or he will not be "strong enough". So what you think about creating bond between him/her and player(And I mean a LOT of screen time) just to kill it/him/her later? What if that's a pet? I know how it done in standart fiction, but erotic games is a little special, or not?

I don't mind, but it needs to be really well written. It needs to have an impact on the player.

Erotic games can by all means have a deep and emotional story. So, if that's what you want to do, then go for it. Don't get discouraged by those who say that it doesn't belong there, you'll find your audience if it's good.

 

[jamdan]

Go look at Acting Lessons. A lot of comments about this type of thing in the later parts of its thread.

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And i would add that near death experiences can be just as powerful

 

[Jon_Sleeper]

Go look at Acting Lessons. A lot of comments about this type of thing in the later parts of its thread.

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I thought the hate was because of the rapid shift in tone.

 

[polywog]

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Death is part of life.

 

[recreation]

No-go for me. Its a fucking porn game! People want to fuck people and don't see them die...
Especially if the story is good and I care for the character who then dies, I would drop out immediately and never touch the game again.

 

[freedom.call]

What your thoughts on char death in ero/porn game? And I don't mean like minor one, someone that player is maybe attached to.

Not something I go around thinking....yeah that would be interesting.

What if MC is have to kill, and not by accident?

That would definitely put me off the game.

 

[Max Craving]

I'd like to, sometimes I want to do something sadistic in games. I think, if you'll make it not necessary to do, then some would do it, and some would not, and it will be the best option, i think.

 

[Max Craving]

It is your game, ultimately, and your fantasies and ideas make it special. If you'll adjust it to people opinions and avoid things like that, then people who might really like it, might not.

 

[Avaron1974]

When done right I have no problem with it, in fact I welcome it. I like games where the dev could take away a character at any given time.

The only time it didn't work for me was a game called Acting Lessons and it wasn't the death it was the pacing. We'd only just had a girl being abused, an arrest, a near rape and then a fire. Too much in a short space of time and i'd spaced out so it didn't have the impact it should have. It should have happened 2 updates later when the threesome was more established, it would have had a bigger impact. Pissed off more people but i'd rather see something that impacts me rather than something that makes me feel indifferent.

One on Depraved Awakening worked perfectly. You didn't see it coming at all and the scene itself was incredibly well done.

I'm a big Final Fantasy fan and they always kill someone off. sometimes it's one of the main characters and sometimes it's their close friends. I'm playing catch up in Final Fantasy 14 before the next expansion and one scene in Heavensward has my character saved by one of her friends who then dies and the scene was awesome. Sad, but awesome.

 

[Abîme]

I don't mind it.

 

[crestor]

When done right I have no problem with it, in fact I welcome it. I like games where the dev could take away a character at any given time.

The only time it didn't work for me was a game called Acting Lessons and it wasn't the death it was the pacing. We'd only just had a girl being abused, an arrest, a near rape and then a fire. Too much in a short space of time and i'd spaced out so it didn't have the impact it should have. It should have happened 2 updates later when the threesome was more established, it would have had a bigger impact. Pissed off more people but i'd rather see something that impacts me rather than something that makes me feel indifferent.

One on Depraved Awakening worked perfectly. You didn't see it coming at all and the scene itself was incredibly well done.

I'm a big Final Fantasy fan and they always kill someone off. sometimes it's one of the main characters and sometimes it's their close friends. I'm playing catch up in Final Fantasy 14 before the next expansion and one scene in Heavensward has my character saved by one of her friends who then dies and the scene was awesome. Sad, but awesome.

I look to make an impact of course, I quite normally respond to death in fiction.. in life too, but my friend, who plays adult games too just hate it! I simply want to see want people look for in games more. If there will not be death or murder I still can make story complete but it will be fake to me, like some superheroes don't eleminate criminals so they can continiue doing crime, or maybe they don't want to lose their job.. but I want to know what other people think too. Didn't have time to play Acting Lessons yet.

 

[crestor]

It is your game, ultimately, and your fantasies and ideas make it special. If you'll adjust it to people opinions and avoid things like that, then people who might really like it, might not.

Yeah, it's my story BUT, a lotof details can be adjusted and I making it so players can enjoy it. Story is like telepathy, it's to invoke something in the player, but I need to know how. I'm asking at least because I live in different culture, and my understanding of some thing may be of mark.

 

[crestor]

Not something I go around thinking....yeah that would be interesting.

That would definitely put me off the game.

Thanks for answer.

Can you elaborate a little? Is it 100% or there are some cases? Like what about kill or be killed? Let's suppose you don't kill them(enemy) but cripple, like put in coma or use some drug to damage their cognitive functions?

 

[freedom.call]

Thanks for answer.

Can you elaborate a little? Is it 100% or there are some cases? Like what about kill or be killed? Let's suppose you don't kill them(enemy) but cripple, like put in coma or use some drug to damage their cognitive functions?

No worries mate. For me the more important thing is having a choice what to do or not do. One of my pet peeves is coming across something where I want to have a choice and have none.

I would probably try to defend my life like most would, killing really isn't why I play adult/porn games. Doesn't mean you shouldn't make the game the way you want.

 

[darlic]

For me it's NO-GO if a character is made to be emotionally attached to the player. If some beloved one dies I call it a cheap way to add gratuitous drama to the game and also lack of originality by the dev (yes, killing key chars is not that original).
Just leave this kind of events to other types of games, like final fantasy and such, as someone already said.

Death of good/positive characters in porn games makes no sense to me.

 

[W65]

I mean, inasmuch as a given game has a story, then character death in a game's story isn't really much different from character death in other media. The difference is whether or not the player feels like they should've been able to do something about it. I mean, one of the basic features of any video game is interactivity. In the context of your story, if the character is killed because the PCs were lazy, stupid, or made some egregious error, then the player's probably going to be more annoyed than anything else--they'll say "I should've been able to keep that from happening." Unless it ends up being some kind of critical developing moment for the characters involved ("I fucked up and got Ted killed can't let that happen again"), you're probably just disappointing the player for no reason. It kinda has to do with the expectation of the players. If your characters are in a war zone or a bloody ghost house and no one is ever killed, it might feel stupid after a while.

It really is a question of player expectations. Sure, the shock value is far, far higher if a character dies in the middle of your slice-of-life game, but I dunno if players are going to be too happy with it. It kinda has to be planned pretty carefully. I dunno if a porn game's really the best environment for it. Then again, I'm more of a "characters" than a "plot" person when it comes to porn games, so maybe I'm not the best one to give an opinion.

(I think it was Agatha Christie who said "murder your darlings," but then again she wrote mysteries involving murder. I think her advice was just to not get so attached to your characters that you can't sacrifice them in order to tell the story that you want to tell. In a regular old novel or even novel series, I'll gladly say that the overall story is larger than the characters. In a game... well, I dunno.)