I'm just stating my preference. Rather I decide to stay with a game or not is something that's really none of your business.
Well the brother/sister relationship they already managed to destroy in the past, last straw was when Jaye decided unprovoked that spending time with Christian in her room was more important as her brothers biggest game ever and since he was no pro athlete likely greatest game in his life. Breaking one of their two remaining bonds as brother and sister for her own reasons. MC's reaction after the unhappy circumstance that Christian was also a rapeboy did not help, even if him reacting differently as he did was considering the position Jaye put him knowingly or by accident in asking a bit much.
I think that's completely unfair to Jaye. She had no duty or obligation to attend Alex' games, it was her free choice. Maybe we'll find out her reasons in future conversations. Alex jealousy, and the cruel way that he vented it are all on him.Well the brother/sister relationship they already managed to destroy in the past, last straw was when Jaye decided unprovoked that spending time with Christian in her room was more important as her brothers biggest game ever and since he was no pro athlete likely greatest game in his life. Breaking one of their two remaining bonds for her own reasons. MC's reaction after the unhappy circumstance that Christian was also a rapeboy did not help, even if him reacting differently as he did was considering the position Jaye put him knowingly or by accident asking a bit much.
There is only one relationship left more or less and not a good one.Rebuilding that brother/sister relationship with the minimal amount of trust and closeness they have and amount of distrust now is starting from scratch with just some memories from the time before Mc made his first mistake as a light of hope.
So... a bunch of anonymous people on the internet are discussing a game in a pirate game forum thread and you feel an unstoppable urge to sternly warn them not to push their kinks or else!!!
I never brought up adding something to a game that does not belong. And if my stating my preferences about the game that I choose to support bothers you so much then that's your problem, not mine.
Uhm, let me disagree. The only two thing both still did religiously for each other and last two things they showed any true affection for each other in was attending each others sports events and leaving a present for bday more or less. It was more or less an unspoken pact and with how MC spoke about it, it mattered a lot to him at least.
Jaye stated in her inner thoughts that what Alex did at the graduation party is exactly what she wanted him to do, she just fucked up as usual her (over)reaction. She was scared of being “found out”.Uhm, let me disagree. The only two thing both still did religiously for each other and last two things they showed any true affection for each other in was attending each others sports events and leaving a present for bday more or less. It was more or less an unspoken pact and with how MC spoke about it, it mattered a lot to him at least.
So yes in principle it was her free choice same as for Mc not attending her games even if he had chosen to do that or MC's choice to read her phone even if that was also shitty. It was also a choice with foreseeable consequences especially being his biggest game and she knew that her message was, you are not even important enough anymore that fucking my BF is more important to me than being there for your big day, whether Mc had feelings for her or not that is not a nice message to your brother either and nothing had happened recently before that that would excuse or could have provoked Jaye from sending MC that message. Nor the need so big to be with Rapeboy that special day for MC with MC moving away to college in a few months at the latest anyway.
Now her bringing Christian to games if was intended to make MC jealous would be bad enough, but hey he was her BF at the time and nothing Mc could say she was still there at his games at least even if he might have preferred without rapeboy. He was not in a relation with her even if he loved her, he had no rights to complain openly about it. Him walking in on that scene though and we do not know if Jaye intended him to walk in on her with Christian in her room anyway to make him jealous after game, with how he felt about her and not knowing about that attempted rape (that we as players did) well how would you expect anyone to react? Happy? Supportive? Brotherly?
He reacted exactly as jealous as Jaye would have intended if she had not just survived an attempted rape attempt and needed a pair of arms around her. and no not very happy or friendly which is a normal reaction especially since he disliked Christian anyway beyond his own feelings for Jaye. Well if she had confided in him what happened she likely would have had those arms, then again that she did not is pretty believable as well. Now he reacted though as he was intended to do. Pissed off and hurt.
I said it before it was a marvelous bit of emotional manipulation by Stoya to make MC seem like the worst party, while it was Jaye which pulled the shitty move.
I think you misunderstood that entire sequence.Uhm, let me disagree. The only two thing both still did religiously for each other and last two things they showed any true affection for each other in was attending each others sports events and leaving a present for bday more or less. It was more or less an unspoken pact and with how MC spoke about it, it mattered a lot to him at least.
So yes in principle it was her free choice same as for Mc not attending her games even if he had chosen to do that or MC's choice to read her phone even if that was also shitty. It was also a choice with foreseeable consequences especially being his biggest game and she knew that her message was, you are not even important enough anymore that fucking my BF, (which I can do anytime I want by the way and do not need to do especially on your big day, but hey it feels good to do that) is more important to me than being there for your big day, whether Mc had feelings for her or not that is not a nice message to your brother either and nothing had happened recently before that that would excuse or could have provoked Jaye from sending MC that message. Nor the need so big to be with Rapeboy that special day for MC with MC moving away to college in a few months at the latest anyway and she should be able to afford a hotel room if wanted to be away from MC for some sex when MC was not at one of his games.
Now her bringing Christian to games if was intended to make MC jealous would be bad enough, but hey he was her BF at the time and nothing Mc could say she was still there at his games at least even if he might have preferred without rapeboy. He was not in a relation with her even if he loved her, he had no rights to complain openly about it. Him walking in on that scene though on that day and we do not know if Jaye intended him to walk in on her with Christian in her room anyway to make him jealous after game, with how he felt about her and not knowing about that attempted rape (that we as players did) well how would you expect anyone to react? Happy? Supportive? Brotherly?
He reacted exactly as jealous as Jaye would have intended if she had not just survived an attempted rape attempt and needed a pair of arms around her. and no not very happy or friendly which is a normal reaction especially since he disliked Christian anyway beyond his own feelings for Jaye. Well if she had confided in him what happened she likely would have had those arms, then again that she did not after his reaction is pretty believable as well. Now he reacted though as he was intended to do. Pissed off and hurt and not happy for her or professing his undying love for her.
I said it before it was a marvelous bit of emotional manipulation by Stoya to make MC seem like the worst party, while it was Jaye which pulled the shitty move.
They are both guilty of that, no doubt. Still that does not make what Jaye did at day of game any less of a shitty move. Nor MC reading her phone and going ballistic at the party due to his own feelings of guilt he reacted so badly at that scene while his sis needed help, even if his reaction was fully natural after the situation Jaye created, with the attempted rape as an unexpected extra.
The point is it does not matter if she intended to make him jealous or not, does not matter if she intended to have sex with Christian or not or would have had. For whatever in the end unimportant reason she decided to break their unspoken pact exactly on the day of his biggest game in his life that they religiously observed for years and was one of the last few things they did for each other without any provocation.. That did sent a message and MC got it loud and clear. Then when he walked in on them and found out the reason was Christian he flipped.
Wow, you just can't get Jaye's point of view. She was in love with her brother, as her brother was in love with her. And they both felt guilty about it. I don't know what kind of ESP you expected her to have that she could tell that Alex was in love with her. They both kept their feelings buried, tried in every way not to show something that they were both ashamed of.
Lol. She could have moved on the next day or any day of the rest of her life, but no she did it that exact day. I am not expecting ESP from her, just some normal understanding of the consequences of your actions that should not be beyond a 18 yo woman or man when dealing with someone that is a fixed part of your life. Like I tried to show you with my example about my mother, I could also have used one of my brothers and neither of us are into males or especially loving to one another or have a great relation.
If that's what you consider a normal reaction . . .Lol. She could have moved on the next day or any day of the rest of her life, but no she did it that exact day. I am not expecting ESP from her, just some normal understanding of the consequences of your actions that should not be beyond a 18 yo woman or man when dealing with someone that is a fixed part of your life. Like I tried to show you with my example about my mother, I could also have used one of my brothers and neither of us are into males or especially loving to one another.
Breaking a long habit that you both confirmed to for years, especially on an important day does send a message of not caring and finding something else more important. Whether it is to your mother, brother, good friend or whomever and tends to disappoint them. In the case of Jaye and MC where that tradition between them was one of the last ways they showed each other they cared, that gets even worse.
If you cannot get that and wish to blame MC for a natural reaction when he walked into that scene, without the extra knowledge of that attempted rape and also not told directly after by Jaye so he could change his reaction and reevaluate that situation.
Well be my guest, but the actions of Jaye that day were still a shitty move in and of themselves with regard to MC and it is only the fact that she almost got raped that makes me feel any sympathy for her and I get MC's reaction, that she basically set up herself by her actions that day, did hurt her a lot despite that fact. Like I said great emotional manipulation by Stoya.
Also, are you so sure that Jaye was even aware of Alex attending her sporting events? The narration says that Alex kept a low profile during those events. And he wasn't even aware that Jaye fit her schedule to the sports that he played until Walter pointed it out to him.
Finally somebody who gets it, all the scenes are done in a way that that makes it believable for both people who think MC was wrong or jaye was wrong. While jaye was MUCH better in the last update, the fact that she had the balls to ask mc why he didn't attend her big day when she decided fucking her bf was more important than attending MC big day shows that the childish/selfish jaye is still here.Well be my guest, but the actions of Jaye that day were still a shitty move in and of themselves with regard to MC and it is only the fact that she almost got raped that makes me feel any sympathy for her and I get MC's reaction, that she basically set up herself by her actions that day, did hurt her a lot despite that fact. Like I said great emotional manipulation by Stoya.
Yeah of course that he was doing something pretty sad that day makes that even worse from MC's perspective, but hey that falls under the normal misfortune those two have or is inflicted on them by the dev.
Besides MC def not ready yet to open up enough to Jaye about all the reasons why with how fragile their relation and trust still is, just as Jaye is not.
Before trying to give people advice learn to do it yourself as your views are completely biased for jaye and against the MC
Even if she was not, that did not change fact she was there for his every match until suddenly that one without any provocation or reason given. She knew he expected her to be there based upon their past.
