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VN Ren'Py Cheat or Not [v1.0 Revamped] [Belzeebub]

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What are the genres you are looking for in this novel


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Hfap5

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Oct 13, 2023
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I don't understand why they cry about NTR when it's optional :ROFLMAO:
if you don't want to watch ntr then just don't watch it:ROFLMAO:
that's why there would be two paths and if you don't want ntr don't choose the path of ntr.. it's so simple to understand.
 

desertoo

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Dec 27, 2020
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I don't understand why they cry about NTR when it's optional :ROFLMAO:
if you don't want to watch ntr then just don't watch it:ROFLMAO:
that's why there would be two paths and if you don't want ntr don't choose the path of ntr.. it's so simple to understand.
Are you talking to me? I'm pro NTR man. I like it and you missread in case. The dev, if you see in the description, wrote that it will not be implemented. That's why i was suggesting 2 paths or optional NTR
 

WastedTalent

Active Member
Dec 11, 2020
963
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Here is the fixed pc link. Don't know how to fix mac, so, users have to do it themselves.

I am sorry people did not like this vn. I hoped they would cut me some slack knowing I am totally new to this. Will anyone believe me that I started learning both the rendering (in daz) and renpy from february 2024. So, whatever you are watching is the result of what I have learnt in two months neat. I am hopeful models will be better if not beautiful in future. I Thank the people who liked the story.
Regarding the topics which came into my views:
1) horrible models and renders - I agree the mother is made intentionally horrible (I am a joker fan:cool:) to make her look evil. Her intentions are purely evil. Later on she might even going to bit extremes. But renders are bad, I did not realize that. They are all 1920:1080 resolutions, but since I am new may be they are wrong. (Any suggestions are welcome in the regard but only from devs) There will be no incest because of patreon and simply because to me it is very common in almost all vns. So, be rest assured you wouldn't fuck joker's sister:LOL:. But don't worry there will be many women coming up in future.
2) Harem and ntr in the same game ugh - Okay it is not guaranteed but I had discussed this with Mister Player and it was not suppossed to get out so soon. I like to make this vn a little more practical. Let me give a scenerio (real life) you get a call from your gf/wife that she is planning a surprise tonight, on the other hand, your mistress is all ready for a date planned by both of you two days ago. You cannot attend both at the same time. You have two options 1) attend one and reject the other, 2) attend both but cannot stay whole night. In the first case one will get hurt on the later both will get suspicious. This is my plan. So, if you leave your wife you may face competition from others. But as I said it is all in planning. I am open to suggestions. One request criticism is fine but don't bad mouth. If you are a dev you must know the hardwork needed to make a vn.

I thought these two things were the main setbacks of my novel. I am sorry you did not like it.
Yeah I see what you are saying and trying to do, but this wishy washy way you are talking about it like I don't know if it will be there or not sounds like your story board had a plan and now it's sort of up in the air. To your second point authentic realism isn't very popular from the porn side of things in an avn, think more power fantasy or powerless fantasy again niche markets but it would be hard to please both crowds in the same story that's all people are saying. Plus based on threads of previous dev's who have had similar conversations most of those titles end up abandoned. I'm not trying to discourage you but the maybe answers to player questions doesn't sit very well especially with controversial topics. With controversy it should either become the focus of the story or it should be drowned in the ocean til it is crushed by the black hole like pressure in the darkest depths. I understand your feelings about extreme views but this is one issue where there isn't much middle ground.
 
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I've been looking for the name of the song that starts up with the game. Is it an original? Shazam can't recognize it, so either it is very obscure or made by AI. Eitherway it is pretty good. I was surprised Can it be made publicly available? Belzeebub$

I have to admit, the dialogue doesn't feel all that natural. What kind of question is that?
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Or this one from the mom?

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I can see the point of the scene but no real person talks this way. It definitely needs some rewording.
 
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OhGodNotAgain

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Aug 11, 2023
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I don't understand why they cry about NTR when it's optional :ROFLMAO:
if you don't want to watch ntr then just don't watch it:ROFLMAO:
that's why there would be two paths and if you don't want ntr don't choose the path of ntr.. it's so simple to understand.
Well since the dev made their choice of having no ntr, the only ones crying are begging for ntr but I guess everyone's okay with that though. The moderators don't take too kindly to harassing the devs especially after the dev has made their choice, think about that.
 

desertoo

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Dec 27, 2020
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Not true at all the poll had Harem and Incest beat out NTR on every option.
You cannot do math.
NTR 475
Harem & NTR 319
NTR and incest 528
Total of NTR: 1322

NOT NTR votes:
No NTR resr dosen't matter: 224
No NTR - harem 199
No NTR - incest 229
No NTR - harem & incest 631
Total NO NTR: 1283

It's not that difficult
 

Ozygator

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Donor
Oct 15, 2016
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You cannot do math.
NTR 475
Harem & NTR 319
NTR and incest 528
Total of NTR: 1322

NOT NTR votes:
No NTR resr dosen't matter: 224
No NTR - harem 199
No NTR - incest 229
No NTR - harem & incest 631
Total NO NTR: 1283

It's not that difficult
You can't do math and also can't read apparently.

Harem & Incest (No NTR*): 917
Harem (No NTR*): 482
Incest (No NTR): 717
No NTR - rest don't care: 224
No NTR - harem: 199
No NTR - Incest: 229
No NTR - harem and incest: 631
Total: 3399

NTR: 475
Harem & NTR: 319
NTR & Incest: 528
Total: 1322

* We can assume that if the option doesn't state "NTR" as a preferred option then it is *not* a vote for NTR since those options are already listed to be voted on.

If a game you liked changes direction no need to stick around and argue or debate the change, just move on.
 

desertoo

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Dec 27, 2020
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You can't do math and also can't read apparently.

Harem & Incest (No NTR*): 917
Harem (No NTR*): 482
Incest (No NTR): 717
No NTR - rest don't care: 224
No NTR - harem: 199
No NTR - Incest: 229
No NTR - harem and incest: 631
Total: 3399

NTR: 475
Harem & NTR: 319
NTR & Incest: 528
Total: 1322

* We can assume that if the option doesn't state "NTR" as a preferred option then it is *not* a vote for NTR since those options are already listed to be voted on.

If a game you liked changes direction no need to stick around and argue or debate the change, just move on.
You are assuming wrong if not stated as preferred it dosen't mean no, it means indifferent because there are the option for the no. For example: if you count "Harem & incest" + "No NTR - harem & incest" you count the people who voted in a bad way. The difference is that "Harem & incest" option is indifferent with NTR on the other side "No NTR - Harem and incest" is a not NTR option and it's the same for the options of "harem" and "incest" you are counting in the wrong way. Learn math please

You can state the votes like this:

NO NTR
No NTR - rest don't care: 224
No NTR - harem: 199
No NTR - Incest: 229
No NTR - harem and incest: 631
Total: 1283

NTR
NTR: 475
Harem & NTR: 319
NTR & Incest: 528
Total: 1322

INDIFFERENT
Harem & Incest: 917
Harem: 482
Incest: 717
Total: 2116
 
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Belzeebub$

Cheat Or Not
Game Developer
May 18, 2020
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Everyone, please calm down. This poll was not what I was referring to. I was referring to the poll results on Patreon.
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My patrons don't want NTR, so I gave it up. No offense to you, but isn't it fair that I consider the opinions of those who support me instead of some poll on a pirated site? As for DevilishTemptation, the song is not available to the public (on Shazam) as it is an original piece. I'm glad you like it. If you want, you can use it, I guess.

I'm sorry you don't like the dialogues; they were written in a formal tone to show that the mc is angry at the gf. The same goes for the mother, as she wants to provoke the MC with her questions.
 

Ag414

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Dec 24, 2022
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Hey Belzeebub$ ... I liked that you created a poll about harem, incest and ntr and finally according to poll you planned to add harem and incest and not add ntr. Now can I ask about you doing a pregnancy harem ending for the game at the last? I mean... you can do a poll about it or directly introduce an optional impregnation/pregnancy thing as most will not be against it.
 

desertoo

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Dec 27, 2020
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Everyone, please calm down. This poll was not what I was referring to. I was referring to the poll results on Patreon.
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My patrons don't want NTR, so I gave it up. No offense to you, but isn't it fair that I consider the opinions of those who support me instead of some poll on a pirated site? As for DevilishTemptation, the song is not available to the public (on Shazam) as it is an original piece. I'm glad you like it. If you want, you can use it, I guess.

I'm sorry you don't like the dialogues; they were written in a formal tone to show that the mc is angry at the gf. The same goes for the mother, as she wants to provoke the MC with her questions.
I was referring to something else. I was saying that if on the forum people prefer NTR maybe making 2 routes one NTR one not NTR will make you more patreons. An btw the people good with ntr on your patreon are the majority too (NTR + NTR optional are 54%)
 
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Belzeebub$

Cheat Or Not
Game Developer
May 18, 2020
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I was referring to something else. I was saying that if on the forum people prefer NTR maybe making 2 routes one NTR one not NTR will make you more patreons. An btw the people good with ntr on your patreon are the majority too (NTR + NTR optional are 54%)
Do you understand that I will have to create a separate set of renders for NTR for a handful of people? And making them without NTR is already taking a toll on me. I already have three routes in the next update: one MILF route from the bar, one assistant editor scene, and lastly, a girlfriend scene. Additionally, there are many more scenes I'm working on besides these. I'm not promising anything, but I don't think I will be able to do NTR scenes, especially when most of my supporters don't like NTR. Moreover, I've been criticised almost thrice for intending to include NTR. Also, if there is NTR, it will only involve the girlfriend. Others will never betray the main character, ever.

Ag414 to answer your post, I already have plans for pregnancy, and there will be a surprise (a pretty big one, I think) in future updates, maybe around the third or fourth update. However, before that, you need to get acquainted with the love interests first. Please have some patience. This will be a potboiler. Thank you for showing interest, and this message goes for everyone here. It took a lot of time, effort, and brainstorming to come up with a novel. It is not perfect, rather imperfect for many, but it is the result of pure hard work.
 
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