Kazuki-chan

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Personally I'm only interested in the sex scenes between the MC and the LIs. I don't dislike voyeur scenes, but I have no interest in watching them either. I prefer to be able to skip them.

I like harem games with romance. I started this first chapter or game, but I'm not sure if it's meant to be harem (this is the MC ends up in a relationship with all or most of the LIs) or not. Actually if there is no romance my interest in the game is reduced a lot.
It's a little difficult to add a good romance to an adventure story, after all the protagonist will always be traveling through different cities and won't stay in them for long. The Game has NPC girls (Who will have little interaction with the MC) and LI's (Who will spend more time with the protagonist). And yes, there will be romance with the LI's, but don't expect anything too deep for now, this first chapter/game is an introduction to the universe and character building.

I added cheating scenes, but they are totally avoidable. In the future, I intend to make all scenes that do not involve the protagonist avoidable (except in chapters with FMC). So that players like you don't feel uncomfortable with some scenes. <3
 

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It is the classic RPGMaker MV gameplay. But there are no battles.
After I played your game and have give it a rating. It has big potential i like it, but the engine destroys big parts of the game. And the other problems I have listed in my rating. I will come back later after a few updates and see if I will change my rating.


But I still need to ask you, why have you decided to make this game with RPGMaker?
 
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Kazuki-chan

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After I played your game and have give it a rating. It has big potential i like it, but the engine destroys big parts of the game. And the other problems I have listed in my rating. I will come back later after a few updates and see if I will change my rating.


But I still need to ask you, why have you decided to make this game with RPGMaker?
Hello, thank you for your comment <3. As I said, I'm an amateur dev. I've never used ren'py before, while RPGMaker is an engine I've used since I was a kid. This is my first project, and to avoid making a buggy game in ren'py, I prefer to use RPGM which is an engine that I already know how to use. Who knows, in the future, when I'm more experienced, I'll switch to ren'py. Don't forget that I'm at the beginning... I'm learning.
 

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Hello, thank you for your comment <3. As I said, I'm an amateur dev. I've never used ren'py before, while RPGMaker is an engine I've used since I was a kid. This is my first project, and to avoid making a buggy game in ren'py, I prefer to use RPGM which is an engine that I already know how to use. Who knows, in the future, when I'm more experienced, I'll switch to ren'py. Don't forget that I'm at the beginning... I'm learning.
I have another suggestions for your game, when you still want to create your game in RPGM. Then it would be better to add what the developer from Wicked Rouge REFINE have done.

He has added in RPGM games what no other RPGM games have done. A gallery in the main menu, the possibility to load and save when your are talking, more save slots, and the possibility to see the picture from where you have saved.

This will make your game much better.

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https://f95zone.to/threads/wicked-rouge-refine-v0-8-0-public-fidless.102703/
 
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BlasKyau

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It's a little difficult to add a good romance to an adventure story, after all the protagonist will always be traveling through different cities and won't stay in them for long. The Game has NPC girls (Who will have little interaction with the MC) and LI's (Who will spend more time with the protagonist). And yes, there will be romance with the LI's, but don't expect anything too deep for now, this first chapter/game is an introduction to the universe and character building.
I guess the romance can be easier between the MC and the LIs traveling with him.

I added cheating scenes, but they are totally avoidable. In the future, I intend to make all scenes that do not involve the protagonist avoidable (except in chapters with FMC). So that players like you don't feel uncomfortable with some scenes. <3
By cheating scenes do you mean scenes where the MC cheats on his girlfriend? Personally, the only sex scenes that interest me are between the MC and the LIs with whom he has established a romantic relationship.
 

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I guess the romance can be easier between the MC and the LIs traveling with him.

By cheating scenes do you mean scenes where the MC cheats on his girlfriend? Personally, the only sex scenes that interest me are between the MC and the LIs with whom he has established a romantic relationship.
It appears that you have not played this game, so let me just give it to you straight up. This is an adventure story and not the typical lovey dovey romance story, and definitely does not comply with many specific preferences that you have.

I have played the game (up to Act. 3a, have not played 3b yet) and have a bit understanding of your preferences (read your posts in multiple game threads), and my verdict is that, this story (Chapter One) is not for you.

Below is the summary for Chapter One taken from the OP:
Chapter One - Devil in Disguise:
This chapter tells the story of Bartholomeo, a demon who was expelled from hell for having a love affair with the daughter of The Demon Lord. He is sent to the human world and can only return to hell when he fulfills a specific mission. However, his arch-enemy Mephisha will do anything to prevent his return. Who will triumph in the end? Bartholomeo or Mephisha?​
The story chronicles the adventure of Bartho (MC) returning back to hell so that he and Anri (daughter of the Demon Lord) can be together again, while Mephisa plots against him. It is a love story but there aren't that many (or any at all :unsure:?) romance in it mainly because they live in different world at the moment.

MC meets (and have sex) with plenty of women but I don't think any of them are his LI. Removing the sex scenes altogether changes the story and game significantly, the best compromise Kazuki-chan can do, is to make the sex scenes skippable (not shown but happened off screen).

IMO, only audiences that enjoy good story and storytelling (with coherent plots and plot twists) without being tied down by particular preferences (or tags) can appreciate it.

All that being said, this is just my suggestion to you, feel free to ignore it and play the game anyway:D. Cheers.
 

Kazuki-chan

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I have another suggestions for your game, when you still want to create your game in RPGM. Then it would be better to add what the developer from Wicked Rouge REFINE have done.

He has added in RPGM games what no other RPGM games have done. A gallery in the main menu, the possibility to load and save when your are talking, more save slots, and the possibility to see the picture from where you have saved.

This will make your game much better.

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https://f95zone.to/threads/wicked-rouge-refine-v0-8-0-public-fidless.102703/
The dev of Wicked rouge is a very experienced developer who has been working on this for much longer than I have. I hope one day to be like him. As I said, I'm learning little by little. <3
 

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The dev of Wicked rouge is a very experienced developer who has been working on this for much longer than I have. I hope one day to be like him. As I said, I'm learning little by little. <3
When you have no idea how this work, the solution to this is asking the dev of Wicked rouge or ask sensei google.
I have enough experience with programming and learned that all programmer using google or asking people for help.
This is normal.
 
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Kazuki-chan

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I guess the romance can be easier between the MC and the LIs traveling with him.



By cheating scenes do you mean scenes where the MC cheats on his girlfriend? Personally, the only sex scenes that interest me are between the MC and the LIs with whom he has established a romantic relationship.
I guess the romance can be easier between the MC and the LIs traveling with him.



By cheating scenes do you mean scenes where the MC cheats on his girlfriend? Personally, the only sex scenes that interest me are between the MC and the LIs with whom he has established a romantic relationship.
As JohnF95zone said, maybe chapter one isn't for you. My game is story focused, and there aren't many LIs. There are many NPCs that you will have sex with once. If you're looking for a complete harem, focusing on dates and romance, maybe this chapter 1 isn't for you. But if you want to give it a try, please be open-minded to see things differently than what you are used to.
 
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There is nothing wrong with developing RPGM games, it is dated but not terrible. It is actually really good for certain types of games. NLT Media uses it for their NLT Saga games (Lust Epidemic, Treasure of Nadia and The Genesis Order).

The most important things for first time game developer are (apart from being passionate about his/her project) to develop and produce sizeable content at comfortable pace, using the tools or techs and skillsets that he/she are most competent with/at.

As time goes by, you will learn more and gain more experience, then you can take more risk, add more features, improvements, etc. etc.

The goal is getting the game/story done (using even dated engine with basic features) because then you have an IP and a product (game), which you can re-make using better engine/techs, adapt into another medium or just sell it. Cheers.
 

Kazuki-chan

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When you have no idea how this work, the solution to this is asking the dev of Wicked rouge or ask sensei google.
I have enough experience with programming and learned that all programmer using google or asking people for help.
This is normal.
Yes. You're right. If he's willing to help me, that's great. I'll look into that. Thanks <3
 
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Oh, yeah, I had forgotten how big this game is, guess I'm gonna wait for the torrent hero to come here to help because I can't figure out how to download 9gb using the available mirrors here... '^^
 
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Yes. You're right. If he's willing to help me, that's great. I'll look into that. Thanks <3
There's a reason I write suggestions and write so much here, even though I gave this game a 2/5 rating.

I see great potential from this game (Animation, Models, Story, Angels and Demons), and it would be a shame when the only reason people are not giving this game a chance is because of RPGM.
Most people are disliking RPGM games and only a few RPGM games (porn games) are successful.

Keep up your work and give your best to improve the weak points from your game and hopefully people will recognize the potential from your game.
 
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BlasKyau

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As JohnF95zone said, maybe chapter one isn't for you. My game is story focused, and there aren't many LIs. There are many NPCs that you will have sex with once. If you're looking for a complete harem, focusing on dates and romance, maybe this chapter 1 isn't for you. But if you want to give it a try, please be open-minded to see things differently than what you are used to.
Thanks, but I think I'll wait for another chapter, "one night stands" scenes don't interest me.

I actually always avoid scenes with girls who aren't LIs (at least whenever I get a chance). For example, one of the last games I've tried has, I think, between 2 and 4 sex scenes (I'm not sure), and to get all of them you have to walk through various areas, these scenes happen randomly, I haven't seen any of them and they are the only scenes in the game (and as the Dev adds such scenes, the number of scenes I don't see will increase)

It appears that you have not played this game, so let me just give it to you straight up. This is an adventure story and not the typical lovey dovey romance story, and definitely does not comply with many specific preferences that you have.

I have played the game (up to Act. 3a, have not played 3b yet) and have a bit understanding of your preferences (read your posts in multiple game threads), and my verdict is that, this story (Chapter One) is not for you.

Below is the summary for Chapter One taken from the OP:


The story chronicles the adventure of Bartho (MC) returning back to hell so that he and Anri (daughter of the Demon Lord) can be together again, while Mephisa plots against him. It is a love story but there aren't that many (or any at all :unsure:?) romance in it mainly because they live in different world at the moment.

MC meets (and have sex) with plenty of women but I don't think any of them are his LI. Removing the sex scenes altogether changes the story and game significantly, the best compromise Kazuki-chan can do, is to make the sex scenes skippable (not shown but happened off screen).

IMO, only audiences that enjoy good story and storytelling (with coherent plots and plot twists) without being tied down by particular preferences (or tags) can appreciate it.

All that being said, this is just my suggestion to you, feel free to ignore it and play the game anyway:D. Cheers.
Skipping them and having them happen the same way doesn't fulfill my preferences, which is that they don't happen. I mean, skipping them doesn't change anything, I just don't see it. It might work for me if it's one or two scenes, but if it's a lot, then no.

I guess it's best to wait for another chapter.
 
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So theres going ot be no sister action. Not even flirting between sis and brother ?.. but there will be none of that ?

Only just started the game and well im getting the impression its going to be about a demon whos going to be the good guy. Not really sure if thats the type of game I like, for this genre at least. I mean when the demon lord tol him to corrupt the princess, I was like "right on, lets go" but the MCs having none of it ? Is he really going to come back and fuck Maphista in the ass ? Ill guess I can hang around for that ? But I really hoping he does more than that to her ^_~ Punishment and servitude ~_^ More he messes her up, the better I would say

Im kinda really into monster girls, so was one of the reasons I was checking this out.
 
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So theres going ot be no sister action. Not even flirting between sis and brother ?.. but there will be none of that ?

Only just started the game and well im getting the impression its going to be about a demon whos going to be the good guy. Not really sure if thats the type of game I like, for this genre at least. I mean when the demon lord tol him to corrupt the princess, I was like "right on, lets go" but the MCs having none of it ? Is he really going to come back and fuck Maphista in the ass ? Ill guess I can hang around for that ? But I really hoping he does more than that to her ^_~ Punishment and servitude ~_^ More he messes her up, the better I would say

Im kinda really into monster girls, so was one of the reasons I was checking this out.
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