Ren'Py Completed Ciri Trainer [Ch. 5 v1.0 Beta] [The Worst]

[tg]

I liked how axii was used to convince Ciri to do the spying at the door. Used as a subliminal way to get her doing lewd things, and then the story suggesting she no longer needed the reinforcement as her habits took form and flourished.

So, what complications do people think might arise from going with that last choice (and getting the last CG)? Something that will lead to missing out a future CG? That might make sense. I do like the idea that Triss might become more and more frustrated and seek something else out to bring some satisfaction.

Oh, I wanted to ask the devs. Will we be able to dictate what kind of grooming Ciri has? I'd find it hot to be able to tell her to keep herself shaved. And then punish her if she lets herself grow out again. Others might just want her to have pubes. So, it might be nice to have some options there. But, yeah, that would probably lead to more variations for CGs, so maybe you won't go that way...

 

[mooncan]

Its just an alternative way of getting porn content, not the main training. Also a lot of people like this type of complete control and mindless obedience.
Besides Axii can have other uses, more indirect approach like for example - when Doppler orders Ciri to change bathing spot so she gets groped by Foglets. We get a h-scene where Ciri isnt a mindless puppet but she wouldnt even be there if not for Axii.

I know that some people like mind control but a lot of people also like scat porn. Both fetishes are awful and only a minority likes them, no need to ruin the whole corruption aspect for everyone by including voodoo magic.
We want Ciri to submit willingly, don't we?

The bathing spot you mentioned is a great example. I think that's exactly how axii should be used in the game and also that spying on triss and geralt part.
But using axii on Ciri to grope her tits however, is meh in my opinion.

Imagine this: You train the axii sign long enough to tell Ciri that you want to finger her cunt and then you do it afterwards with no dialogue or maybe with dialogue which is altered to fit her mindless shell condition and basically makes her another character.

Doesn't sound very hot in my opinion.

Or: You punish Ciri for not doing (reading the book etc.) and then you spank her.
Now we should repeat these punishments and go a step further by telling Ciri to drop her pants and then she gets spanked again.
After all those spanking the next part should be that the player grows bolder and starts caressing Ciri's snatch while spanking her.

This would be the ideal way of corrupting her
The corruption of Ciri should rely solely on the punishments, it should come in stages.

 

[AlisaB]

I know that some people like mind control but a lot of people also like scat porn. Both fetishes are awful and only a minority likes them, no need to ruin the whole corruption aspect for everyone by including voodoo magic.
We want Ciri to submit willingly, don't we?

The bathing spot you mentioned is a great example. I think that's exactly how axii should be used in the game and also that spying on triss and geralt part.
But using axii on Ciri to grope her tits however, is meh in my opinion.

Imagine this: You train the axii sign long enough to tell Ciri that you want to finger her cunt and then you do it afterwards with no dialogue or maybe with dialogue which is altered to fit her mindless shell condition and basically makes her another character.

Doesn't sound very hot in my opinion.

Or: You punish Ciri for not doing (reading the book etc.) and then you spank her.
Now we should repeat these punishments and go a step further by telling Ciri to drop her pants and then she gets spanked again.
After all those spanking the next part should be that the player grows bolder and starts caressing Ciri's snatch while spanking her.

This would be the ideal way of corrupting her
The corruption of Ciri should rely solely on the punishments, it should come in stages.

I like mind control and its nowhere near scat. Its way more popular, there are tons of games on Patreon which focus on this fetish not to mention numerous japanese hentai titles in this genre.
However there are many types of mind control and some i find more hot than others. The mindless puppet/robot is probably one of my least favourite ones so i agree with you to some extent.
Im not gonna explain every single sub genre but in short - imo the best type of mind control is when it has a lasting effect. In Ciri Trainer it could be used to enhance the regular slave training. Doppler can put certain thoughts and suggestions in Ciri's mind that will affect her even after the direct Axii effect(mindless puppet) wears off.
Few examples of more indirect Axii usage:
- she could get aroused by humiliation - that would spice up the spanking and other punishments;
- and/or aroused by exposing her body
- order her to masturbate at least 3 times a day - she would still be herself, with her own thoughts just under a strong compulsion to finger herself at random(or not random, maybe triggered by some key word or situation). Then our Doppler could peek or even catch her in the act and she wouldnt be able to explain her lewd behaviour ^^
- under the influence of Axii she could be forced to tell us her most perverted sexual fantasies/dreams which we could use to our advantage in regular training

Theres more to mind control than just:
- *zap* Bend over slave!
- yes master!
- *proceeds to fuck mindless slavegirl*

 

[mooncan]

I like mind control and its nowhere near scat. Its way more popular, there are tons of games on Patreon which focus on this fetish not to mention numerous japanese hentai titles in this genre.
However there are many types of mind control and some i find more hot than others. The mindless puppet/robot is probably one of my least favourite ones so i agree with you to some extent.
Im not gonna explain every single sub genre but in short - imo the best type of mind control is when it has a lasting effect. In Ciri Trainer it could be used to enhance the regular slave training. Doppler can put certain thoughts and suggestions in Ciri's mind that will affect her even after the direct Axii effect(mindless puppet) wears off.
Few examples of more indirect Axii usage:
- she could get aroused by humiliation - that would spice up the spanking and other punishments;
- and/or aroused by exposing her body
- order her to masturbate at least 3 times a day - she would still be herself, with her own thoughts just under a strong compulsion to finger herself at random(or not random, maybe triggered by some key word or situation). Then our Doppler could peek or even catch her in the act and she wouldnt be able to explain her lewd behaviour ^^
- under the influence of Axii she could be forced to tell us her most perverted sexual fantasies/dreams which we could use to our advantage in regular training

Theres more to mind control than just:
- *zap* Bend over slave!
- yes master!
- *proceeds to fuck mindless slavegirl*

I definitely like that idea of ordering her to masturbate 3 times a day and that last one with her telling us her sexual fantasies, those would be fine.
You say "imo the best type of mind control is when it has a lasting effect"
But wouldn't it be better to actually develop that lasting effect rather than conjure it by magic?
Instead of making Ciri aroused by exposing her body through voodoo, she could rather be disciplined that way through whatever idea the dev would come up with.

I don't know exactly which game it was but in that game that i played, you had to grind to get to the sex scene of that specific girl, completely through dialog and other vanilla stuff.
Once i reached the ending, right before the sex scene, the developer decided to completely ruin everything by making the girl take some sort of drug or get mind controlled, i don't remember anymore.
It completely pissed me off and i shut the game down without even continuing to the actual scene.

Yes there are sadly a lot of it and as you maybe see, on this site, they aren't that successful.
Besides one single game of course, Dreams of Desire, which was mostly successful due to the renders and mommy.

I'd like to hear the statement of the developers on this.
Normally i wouldn't care that much but I'm really interested in this game since i like the Ciri character and the world this trainer revolves around and I only want to be certain what I'm getting into before spending a dime on this.

 

[AlisaB]

You say "imo the best type of mind control is when it has a lasting effect"
But wouldn't it be better to actually develop that lasting effect rather than conjure it by magic?

She wouldnt be completely changed into slut just by Axii. Like i said, my idea is to enhance the training with the Sign not replace it with *ZAP* - "Ciri, you will be a whore from now on".
In fact i think using mind control to push her into debauchery is more immersive and believable given how smart and arrogant Ciri is - spanking her ass and groping her boobs just wont be enough to turn her into obedient slut.
You dont seem to like this idea and thats fine. When it comes to sexual kinks everyone has their own preferences.
Anyway, we can throw our ideas but ultimately its up to the devs' on how they want to implement Axii into the slave training.

 

[djrock]

can you get her to smile durning the spanking if so how?

 

[pedro5991]

how do i train Axii??

 

[Dsandr]

how do i train Axii??

Fire the fireplace, concentrate ... One more so - you need to trying it a lo-o-o-o-ong time

 

[aifman7]

Just want to put my voice out there that I am in favor of mind control, in whatever form the devs decide to take it. Despite the fact that some others seem to think MC games are hugely unpopular flops that have never and will never succeed, there's a really solid fanbase of players who enjoy MC games. Hell, there's an entire community devoted to it which itself has spawned innumerable games over the years.

However deep you decide to take the mind control aspects of this game, I support it. Even if that means turning Ciri into a mindless slut. I'm into it. No reason you can't have slow corruption *and* scenes where Ciri loses control to the main character and does his bidding for the duration of the mind control. It's pretty damn hot when a character gets controlled like that and is awoken after the act (or during!! even better) with realization of what happened.

 

[Balub]

@monroe Can you please change the description of the game to say that you play as a doppler, not Vesimir? In my opinion it kinda makes a difference, not only because there's potential for shapeshifting afterwards, but also because people will know it's not the "actual" Vesimir, just a sly doppler taking advantage of the role he plays in the life of Ciri.

 

[monroe]

@monroe Can you please change the description of the game to say that you play as a doppler, not Vesimir? In my opinion it kinda makes a difference, not only because there's potential for shapeshifting afterwards, but also because people will know it's not the "actual" Vesimir, just a sly doppler taking advantage of the role he plays in the life of Ciri.

Thanks, I just added the official description from Itch.io hopefully this will clear things up.

 

[ytriii]

Thanks, I just added the official description from Itch.io hopefully this will clear things up.

Could you also update screenshots? They've changed Ciri's appearance.

 

[monroe]

Could you also update screenshots? They've changed Ciri's appearance.

New screenshots done

 

[nerfthenebelwerfer]

The worsts designs and the witchers world and characters is such a perfect combo, this can be a masterpiece. Surely will be one of my favs I guess.

 

[hannesthe]

If I might ask, what was the possible poll options for side characters?

 

[OBVC|$nOI]

If I might ask, what was the possible poll options for side characters?

 

[zenzaxaznez]

Really entertaining first chapter! I like how elements such as monster-slaying, potion brewing and Witcher contracts are represented, it makes it feel more like an adult-themed Witcher game rather than adult game #4118 with Witcher paint splashed on it.

I really enjoy the punishment mechanic! It's exciting to see the "Punishment available" popup, knowing I have another flimsy excuse to turn poor Cirilla's ass cheeks red.

It's really nice to see that there's nudity and sexual acts available already in the first chapter. I love the PlayWitch issues and I hope we'll eventually get the chance to convince some local witches to pose.

Looking forward to pimping Ciri out to the Wild Hunt.

Some suggestions:

• The Axii molestation would be way better using the large Ciri model, centered on the screen. The one used is too small to properly enjoy what's happening, especially if more devious telepathic suggestions will be implemented.
  
  
• Too much grinding when training. Alleviated somewhat by the bonus from training melee in clear weather and alchemy during rain, but I didn't find a way to speed up magic training from the paltry +10% per frog scene.
  
  
• No progress bar for Axii training made me believe nothing was happening, until I increased a level and realized it did increase for every meditation session, it just wasn't communicated.

 

[MoreSatan]

For some reason I don't find ciri sexually attractive seriously she is like a daughter or sister I am feeling zero sexual feeling toward Ciri. Even she would spread her legs and give me some sexy poses in front of me I would still feel nothing.

 

[Joe Banana]

For some reason I don't find ciri sexually attractive seriously she is like a daughter or sister I am feeling zero sexual feeling toward Ciri. Even she would spread her legs and give me some sexy poses in front of me I would still feel nothing.

Your loss. In a time, when ginormous boobs and asses seem to dominate... well, everything, she's like a breath of fresh air. The entire Witcher 3 was full of wonderfully sculpted female characters.

 

[AlisaB]

Yea, Ciri was very sexy even in Witcher 3 - a young girl with pretty face and shapely ass in tight leather pants. Now, in this game we get to train her to be our sex slave. Hot! ^^