Ren'Py Club Detention [v0.084 Hotfix 4] [Yorma86]

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:KEK: You say that you are going to try to make balanced content depending on the feedback (I guess that is depending on polls on patreon, we already know how this ends), but right away you say that if the player does not want to prostitute the girls, he loses a lot of content, then the content will not be balanced,it will be more prostitution than content with the mc....
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Nah, it only affects the scenes you'll see, but not the money you'll earn.
 
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Valeriyo said:
Not specific about this game but in general:

-Yes. If she fucks even offscreen someone else for what ever the reason is, its NTR.
-If they are represented like LIs, they are LI no mater the circumstances.
-If they just some background pieces which just works as a game mechanic, then its a different topic.


-Yes NTR is losing your love interest(s) by someone else. Selling them for money where you see their Sex scenes is more involved in the Sharing/Netorase fetish, which it seems the game is heading to.


-Perhaps the MC but not the Reader/Player. Hence the tag.
A MC can still feel good and have no bad feelings attached when even he tortures LIs, that dosent mean people who are reading/watching/playing it wont, hence they tags.
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In this case I don't think it's NTR, it's just prostitution, this topic has already been touched on several times and it was explained that while the game IS NOT ROMANCE they are not love interests :rolleyes:, for the MC they are only resources that he can use or take advantage of economically, the same thing happens in something unlimited, sex publi life, or super power , the MC doesn't lose the girls, he just pimps them, and gets benefit from it, there is no jealousy, there is no other NPC that comes to take his place, there is no humiliation.

It's understandable if some user doesn't like this, that's fine, but let's not confuse terms.
 
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Yorma86 said:
Nah, it only affects the scenes you'll see, but not the money you'll earn.
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I think what he was asking was if there are going to be more scenes of prostitution than scenes with the MC, this is because those who do not want to prostitute the girls do not lose much content.
 
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loikl said:
In this case I don't think it's NTR, it's just prostitution, this topic has already been touched on several times and it was explained that while the game IS NOT ROMANCE they are not love interests :rolleyes:, for the MC they are only resources that he can use or take advantage of economically, the same thing happens in something unlimited, sex publi life, or super power , the MC doesn't lose the girls, he just pimps them, and gets benefit from it, there is no jealousy, there is no other NPC that comes to take his place, there is no humiliation.

It's understandable if some user doesn't like this, that's fine, but let's not confuse terms.
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"IS NOT ROMANCE"... -> Dating Sim + Harem tag :WaitWhat:
Hence I said he should remove the Harem and Dating Sim tag. Both of them have very much to do with Romance...
Its of course not NTR in the normal sense but more of a voyeurism as the basis (since we will see them fucking) and cuckhold (since they will be prostitute themself).
Im not hating that he wants to make this game but like you saw people already triggered with this specific mix. Im not a fan either but we should be real that it wont end well.

Edit: By the way, in the game you already can flirt with the girls...so yeah, there you goes your theory of them not being LIs...
 
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Valeriyo said:
"IS NOT ROMANCE"... -> Dating Sim + Harem tag :WaitWhat:
Hence I said he should remove the Harem and Dating Sim tag. Both of them have very much to do with Romance...
Its of course not NTR in the normal sense but more of a voyeurism as the basis (since we will see them fucking) and cuckhold (since they will be prostitute themself).
Im not hating that he wants to make this game but like you saw people already triggered with this specific mix. Im not a fan either but we should be real that it wont end well.
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For the third time, games like Something unlimited, superpowered and Sex public life have the harem tag (means the Mc will have sex with all the girls and they will be "his" girls), dating sim is just the way he will get (following everyone's story) has NOTHING to do with romance, it will not involve "feelings", it will only corrupt her, NO there is no ntr, a guy will not appear to fuck them out of nowhere and have control of them, they will only be able to touch them if they pay first, and you (MC) take the profits.

But in the end, watch as you want, you don't have to like it but it's not that simple, as it is not in the games I already mentioned.
 
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Valeriyo said:
"IS NOT ROMANCE"... -> Dating Sim + Harem tag :WaitWhat:
Hence I said he should remove the Harem and Dating Sim tag. Both of them have very much to do with Romance...
Its of course not NTR in the normal sense but more of a voyeurism as the basis (since we will see them fucking) and cuckhold (since they will be prostitute themself).
Im not hating that he wants to make this game but like you saw people already triggered with this specific mix. Im not a fan either but we should be real that it wont end well.

Edit: By the way, in the game you already can flirt with the girls...so yeah, there you goes your theory of them not being LIs...
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I'm confused why harem and prostitution cancel each other out. I guess this comes down to different world views, but I think it's possible for both to exist. Let me be clear: You will be able to form romantic relationships with your students. You won't be forced to put them to work in the hostess club (except Natalie and Jennifer for the first night). If you choose to have them work in the club, you'll be able to choose whether they'll actually just be regular hostesses/dancers/bartenders without any of the sex.

When the goal is to corrupt the women and turn them into sluts, I find it very weird to expect all of them to only have sex with you. I mean, you can do that, but then I'd say it's just a seduction game (with a weird adult twist of course) instead of a corruption game, but again we might disagree on the semantics.

Edit: I can't believe I'm debating about these semantics in the year of our lord 2022.
 
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Yorma86 said:
I'm confused why harem and prostitution cancel each other out.
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They don't, ignore the haters. They go to every game thread piling up on new devs trying to turn every game into their generic incel fantasy.

This is all the harem tag means on f95:
  • Harem [1 person being courted by at least 3 others, all engaging in consensual sex simultaneously.]
Anyone claiming it is anything more than that is delusional.
 
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Meaning Less said:
Do you realize that you missed highlighting the exact thing that goes completely against your argument?
"The term "dating sim" is also sometimes used incorrectly in english as a generic term for romance driven games."
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No, Im fully aware of that because Dating Sims which plays mostly in Visual Novels (Since they came originally from Japan) tend to branch in different subgenres.
Romantic-driven like in the pic above, means its the pure focus of it and not a part of it. Datin Sim just have the elements in it.
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I just saw that Dev. just said it will have romance with the LI.
 
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As much as I enjoy the debate :BootyTime: is it possible to continue the discussion on very important porn game semantics over Discord or PMs?
 
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Some of the dialogue options with Shirley (PE Teacher) are greyed out and not selectable. What do we need to do to be able to choose them? Example below.
 
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Behindflayer said:
Eh, just drop the "harem" aspect and make this babyfaced guy one of the "girls" in the brothel, he already got to taste cum so just make him go full trap.
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He only got the taste because of your choices and actions :LUL:It only happens if your submissive trait is greater than your dominant trait. And you can always say no if girls ask you to taste cum. Don't let them walk over you!
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Some of the dialogue options with Shirley (PE Teacher) are greyed out and not selectable. What do we need to do to be able to choose them? Example below.
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Ah, good of you to mention it. It's currently not communicated clearly enough that your stats will affect available dialogue options. For that particular option, your protagonist's Corruption level must be over 13 and his Good Teacher level below 10.

Perhaps in the future I'll try to incorporate a tooltip for them to show the current and required stats.
 
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Yorma86 said:
Ah, good of you to mention it. It's currently not communicated clearly enough that your stats will affect available dialogue options. For that particular option, your protagonist's Corruption level must be over 13 and his Good Teacher level below 10.

Perhaps in the future I'll try to incorporate a tooltip for them to show the current and required stats.
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Ok, good to know. MC Corruption level seems to be missing from the Journal, so that should probably be added in the future since it has an impact.
 
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i really liked your first realse of this new game, cant wait for the next update, will you add foot fetish content for the submisive route?
 
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Yorma86 said:
Once more content will be added, there will be an option for each character to set them for private use or allow them to engage in lewd actions with the club guests. Basically, reserve the girls you really like for yourself and pimp out the rest.
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So your saying I get to be a pimp. Will it be easy?
 
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